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Law Firm Milkrounds/Apps 2012

  • 31-08-2012 6:04pm
    #1
    TheGreaterFool
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭


    Just bumping this thread from last year for those interested in keeping an eye on application dates, sharing general background info and updating with success(less) stories about group/phone/regular interviews etc.

    Happy hunting.


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  • #2
    RandolphEsq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


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  • #3
    GusherING
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭GusherING


    When do people need to submit CVs and applications for the law firm milk rounds? The first post in that the 2011 thread says the closing date had come and gone in November 2011. Is it too late to apply now?


  • #4
    NoQuarter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    GusherING wrote: »
    When do people need to submit CVs and applications for the law firm milk rounds? The first post in that the 2011 thread says the closing date had come and gone in November 2011. Is it too late to apply now?

    Check the law firms websites under the "careers" sections. They all have different dates. I doubt any of them are closed yet.


  • #5
    RandolphEsq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    They usually open today (1st September) for a month or two.


  • #6
    TheGreaterFool
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭TheGreaterFool


    Yep. William Fry and MOP opened their applications on Monday and the other three of the "big five" open next week, I think.

    Anyone apply to LK Shields or Philip Lee for the paralegal jobs there in the last few weeks?


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  • #7
    Strawberry Fields
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    TheGreaterFool wrote: »
    Yep. William Fry and MOP opened their applications on Monday and the other three of the "big five" open next week, I think.

    Anyone apply to LK Shields or Philip Lee for the paralegal jobs there in the last few weeks?

    Was Phillip Lee the 1,000 words on Constitutional reform on the Law Soc website?
    Did you?


  • #8
    Blackrockcomet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Blackrockcomet


    I was in this position last year, the year before that and the year before that. I finally got an apprenticeship after more interviews, more PFOs than I can remember. Key things are relevant experience and selling that to get an interview. After that I found positivity, a deep understanding of the firm(know what they do and what they do best) and throwing USPs at them, worked for me. I used to go into interviews 'having a chat', being my modest self. That's all good but self deprecating doesn't work. Be your self but your best self. Give them no reason not to give you the job.
    Best of luck, if you really want this, you'll get there eventually.


  • #9
    Tea-a-Maria
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Tea-a-Maria


    Heard from Arthur Cox today,does anyone know how the group interviews operate?What kind of questions can you expect?


  • #10
    Ashashi
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    Applied for Maples, MHC, WF, MOP (Matheson now) Byrne Wallace, McCannFitz and will be asking about traineeships in local firms and the firm I did an internship with over the summer. Waiting game is pretty horrible.


  • #11
    2 waterbottles on my desk
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭2 waterbottles on my desk


    Hello -

    this is my first year on the traineeships hunt. So far I had been doing a lot of speculative applications - which has generally resulted in either no response or a PFO although I have to say some of the PFO's have been very nicely written and have included advice.

    I have all 8 FE1's (studied for them at night) work full time in an insurance broker (claims handling) and am applying every where I can think of.

    Some of the feedback I have received is that I need to get direct legal experince on my CV which is hard with work. Does anyone know where I could maybe do some volunteer work on weekends or late evenings?


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  • #12
    Sala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Sala


    2 waterbottles on my desk wrote: »
    Hello -

    this is my first year on the traineeships hunt. So far I had been doing a lot of speculative applications - which has generally resulted in either no response or a PFO although I have to say some of the PFO's have been very nicely written and have included advice.

    I have all 8 FE1's (studied for them at night) work full time in an insurance broker (claims handling) and am applying every where I can think of.

    Some of the feedback I have received is that I need to get direct legal experince on my CV which is hard with work. Does anyone know where I could maybe do some volunteer work on weekends or late evenings?

    FLAC, although their assistant positions are always quite full. If you are outside Dublin or available to go to an area where they have none you might have a chance


  • #13
    2 waterbottles on my desk
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭2 waterbottles on my desk


    Hello Sala,

    I did apply with FLAC to do some volunteering about two months ago but was told that they are only open Monday to Friday and office hours of 10 - 5.

    Which given I have a full time job makes things difficult - but thanks for the reply anyway - if anyone else has some suggestions I would really appreciate it


  • #14
    Sala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Sala


    That's not true! I don't mean to say you are wrong but there appears to be miscommunication somewhere. Head office on Dorset Street is probably 10-5, but all the advice centres in Dublin and elsewhere are 7/7.30-9/9.30 on a weeknight. Qualified Solicitors / Barristers do the consultations, you can sit in with them, take the notes, get leaflets, contribute where possible, and generally support them. I'm no saying this as in I heard about it - I do it myself and started when like you I was working and couldn't get any experience in office hours. As I said, I think they need qualifieds more than assistants but depending on where you are / can travel to there may be a place.


  • #15
    2 waterbottles on my desk
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭2 waterbottles on my desk


    Hello Sala,

    Thanks for the heads up - I will enquire again and see where I get. I did think it was strange that FLAC wouldn't be available outside traditional office hours. Maybe I just asked the wrong questions.


  • #16
    Hogzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    I havnt heard from Arthur Cox yet.

    To those who have applied, have ye all heard back?


  • #17
    Filfot
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Filfot


    Yea Hogzy, Everyone I have been talking to has received an invite to the group interview. Heard like 15 from final year in UCC and UL got invited too.


  • #18
    ClearlyClear
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭ClearlyClear


    Filfot wrote: »
    Yea Hogzy, Everyone I have been talking to has received an invite to the group interview. Heard like 15 from final year in UCC and UL got invited too.
    Only 3 got interviews in ul that I know of all the rest received the standard pfo . Seems preference for dublin colleges again ..on the bright side still 6 more pfos before its all over


  • #19
    Ownleme
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Ownleme


    anyone going thurs 11.30?


  • #20
    randomchild
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭randomchild


    Hey guys got an interview with lk shields this week, anyone been to one of their interviews and can give me some pointers on what questions they are likely to ask?


  • #21
    colonel1
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭colonel1


    Congrats on getting an interview with them. When did they contact you about it? Was it by email?

    As for tips: know your CV backwards, be able to answer questions on why you want to work in LK Shields, why you want to be a lawyer, the latest news concerning the firm. If you have studied company law, you should have a look over your notes to refresh your memory. I have never been interviewed by them but an acquaintance of mine was. They were asked what a bond is.

    Best of luck:-)


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  • #22
    Ownleme
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Ownleme


    I have never had an interview with them so can't give any tips I'm afraid. Is this for a trainee contract?


  • #23
    Filfot
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Filfot


    Anyone hear back from MOPS, A&L, McCanns, Byrne Wallace or Maples yet?


  • #24
    Hogzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Filfot wrote: »
    Anyone hear back from MOPS, A&L, McCanns, Byrne Wallace or Maples yet?

    I havnt heard from anyone, I dont know if that is a good thing or a bad thing though. As long as I havnt received any PFO's my name is still in the hat i suppose.


  • #25
    Law8890
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Law8890


    Anyone got any tips for LK Shields first round interview?


  • #26
    colonel1
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭colonel1


    Law8890 wrote: »
    Anyone got any tips for LK Shields first round interview?


    Hey well done on getting an interview with LKS OP. I posted some general interview tips a few posts ago on this thread, which may or may not be useful. Do you mind me asking you when you heard from LKS re the interviews and whether you got an email or not? I have heard nothing, so assuming that it is a pfo at this stage.


  • #27
    Law8890
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Law8890


    I heard from them last Friday week via email.


  • #28
    colonel1
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭colonel1


    Law8890 wrote: »
    I heard from them last Friday week via email.

    :-) 1 last question- did you apply for 2013 or 2014?


  • #29
    Filfot
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Filfot


    I think they'll probably just tell everyone who got the interview at the same time.


  • #30
    bouchez
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭bouchez


    Did anybody have their AC group interview today? How did it go?

    Are AC + LK Shields still the only firms to have got back to people?


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  • #31
    colonel1
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭colonel1


    bouchez wrote: »
    Did anybody have their AC group interview today? How did it go?

    Are AC + LK Shields still the only firms to have got back to people?

    I only heard from AC thus far. I haven't heard from LK Shields yet or any of the other firms. Did u apply to LK Shields?


  • #32
    bouchez
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭bouchez


    No I didn't get my app in on time.

    I thought we'd have heard from more of the firms by now.


  • #33
    tm48
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭tm48


    Hey, I also have an interview with Arthur Cox this week, have not heard anything from anyone else as of yet! Let the fu begin!!


  • #34
    colonel1
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭colonel1


    tm48 wrote: »
    Hey, I also have an interview with Arthur Cox this week, have not heard anything from anyone else as of yet! Let the fu begin!!

    Best of luck with it:-) Mine is on Saturday. When is yours?


  • #35
    tm48
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭tm48


    colonel1 wrote: »
    Best of luck with it:-) Mine is on Saturday. When is yours?

    I am also on Saturday morning! Perhaps we'll even be the same group!


  • #36
    Law8890
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Law8890


    colonel1 wrote: »

    :-) 1 last question- did you apply for 2013 or 2014?

    I applied for 2013 Colonel


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  • #37
    colonel1
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭colonel1


    tm48 wrote: »

    I am also on Saturday morning! Perhaps we'll even be the same group!

    I am on at 2.30. Hope you aren't on too early in the morning;-)


  • #38
    colonel1
    Registered Users Posts: 406 ✭✭colonel1


    Law8890 wrote: »

    I applied for 2013 Colonel

    Damn... that's a pfo for sure! Thanks for replying though:-) Hope your interview went well:-)


  • #39
    happyuser123
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭happyuser123


    Hey for those doing the AC interview, were you told you would receive an sms confirmation before the interview? Apparently some people were told this but they didn't mention it to me when I rang to confim my date...

    Also, in response to the question above AC are the only firm I have heard anything from so far

    -Here's to a gut-wrenching next few weeks!


  • #40
    tm48
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭tm48


    colonel1 wrote: »
    I am on at 2.30. Hope you aren't on too early in the morning;-)

    I'm on at 12, best of luck with it. Let's hope we make it through :)


  • #41
    Ownleme
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Ownleme


    fyi: i'm pretty sure i got an sms confirmation for cox interview. got an email from a&l today. missed a call from dillon eustace


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  • #42
    ClearlyClear
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭ClearlyClear


    What did email from a&l say ?


  • #43
    tm48
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭tm48


    Also got called for DE Interview...nothing from A&L...


  • #44
    Ownleme
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Ownleme


    invitation to interview


  • #45
    hecticlife
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭hecticlife


    Got interview email from William Fry but nothing from AL Goodbody as of yet.


  • #46
    LoA
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭LoA


    Hi I got interviews with Arthur Cox, William Fry and Dillon Eustace this week. My Arthur Cox interview is on a Saturday so that's ok but the others are mid-week and I am working in a law firm abroad so I was just wondering if any of the firms accommodate Skype interviews? Thanks :) And the best of luck everybody!


  • #47
    Ownleme
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Ownleme


    i know william fry did for their summer internships so you should definitely mention your situation and see what they say. for firms with second round interviews they might agree considering they can potentially meet you face to face in the second round


  • #48
    OwneM
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭OwneM


    Hi guys,

    I wonder could some of you give me some advice?
    I have a 2:1 degree in civil law, 6 FE1s, am currently studying a commercial law LLM, and have over two years experience in a local law firm.

    However I seem to still be having trouble getting to an interview stage with one of the larger firms.
    How crucial is to get an internship before applying?

    Thanks for your help and best of luck to you all.


  • #49
    Ownleme
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Ownleme


    I heard that once you get an internship in one of them they all have this idea that "if you're good enough for them you're good enough for us". For mhc an internship is the only way to get a traineeship. I'd advise a frys internship. Late application date (meaning less applicants as organised college ppl r mid exams r have already made summer plans) easy process. friendly interview. i also heard that if u keep getting interviews and not getting offers ur problem is with the interview but if you keep applying n not getting interviews the problem is with your applications so although you have the facts to make you a great candidate maybe you need to look at the way you're putting those facts across and get some help in that area if you can.

    all the best


  • #50
    sorchauna
    Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭sorchauna


    OwneM wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    I wonder could some of you give me some advice?
    I have a 2:1 degree in civil law, 6 FE1s, am currently studying a commercial law LLM, and have over two years experience in a local law firm.

    However I seem to still be having trouble getting to an interview stage with one of the larger firms.
    How crucial is to get an internship before applying?

    Thanks for your help and best of luck to you all.


    I'm the same - I have a legal secretary qualification, 2.1 law degree, 2.1 Commercial masters, coming up to three years office experience in a commercial capacity, waiting on the results of my fe's and still only 23 years of age. I always thought that I had done a lot at my age and I can't get the interviews. So I agree with Ownleme that it could be how we answer the questions. I have been offered two traineeships in Cork on my CV but the fees won't be paid so really having to bank of the bigger firms. So looking at the questions and the non - academic side of things is where I lose out. I had always worked jobs in college and two jobs in the summer and working a lot during the fe's that for example in one question is was talk about your travels etc I don’t have as much to say.

    Of course a summer internship would help, after all stats show that mostpeople who do a internship are taking on in the firm as they know how you work and your strengths and how you fit it.


  • #51
    Ownleme
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Ownleme


    maybe either think of any travel at all that you've done however small. even stuff in ireland. if not explain why you haven't. summer internship in frys is paid so you could do that as one of ur summer jobs next year. as an intern u always finish at 5.30 so could definitely manage at least a weekend job at the same time although i know that this would probably have to be in dublin and an internship requires paying rent in dublin whereas working near home you can live rent free.


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