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Justice Minster Alan Shatter opinions on the man

  • 29-03-2013 8:50pm
    #1
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭


    Remember the case of Pamela Izevbekhai ?
    The Nigerian mother's controversial six-year legal battle to stop her deportation ended yesterday when she was arrested at 1.30am and, with her two daughters, Naomi (10) and Jemima (9), placed on a 6am flight out of Dublin Airport to Amsterdam.

    The State has been left with a legal bill of €370,000 for defending the case in the High Court, Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights.

    Ms Izevbekhai's own legal bill, which her fifth and final solicitor Matthew Ezeani admitted would never be paid, is estimated to be in excess of €700,000, bringing the entire cost of the case to more than €1m.
    The Department of Justice last night said it did not intend to reform the system to prevent a repeat of the Izevbekhai case.
    Ms Izevbekhai enjoyed widespread public support -- including that of Justice Minister, Alan Shatter -- up to two years ago when garda investigators travelled to Nigeria and discovered she was using forged documents in her court case.

    Link to the full story from above.http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/1m-legal-bill-after-pamela-and-girls-finally-deported-26753400.html


    And then this in the week Detective Garda Adrian Donohoe was shot dead by scum.
    It may be hard to believe, considering the amount of heartfelt concerns we have seen this week, but I have personally witnessed Justice Minister Alan Shatter belittling legitimate gardai and public concerns over the closure of Garda stations.

    Not only that but he sneered and scoffed in Leinster House, making a skit of our concerns over the loss of 100 more Garda barracks.

    The Minister was on his way into the Senate after the Budget in the run-up to Christmas.

    He was due to speak on the insolvency legislation when an unexpected vote on a prior matter was called.

    To my astonishment he turned around to two Department officials and joked: “Oh my, we’re delayed, we have another 10 minutes.

    “I wonder how many more Garda stations I could close down in 10 minutes.”

    Link to that story.http://www.thestar.ie/star/alan-shatters-appalling-joke-about-garda-stations/


    This man seems to get way more air time then even Enda.

    Then we have this.
    Meet our man in the Dail

    March 10, 2011
    Follow The JC on Twitter

    The new prime minister, Enda Kenny, has appointed Mr Shatter in his coalition of the centre-right Fine Gael and the Irish Labour Party. Mr Shatter is MP for Dublin South, where most of Dublin's Jewish community live.

    Just 60, Mr Shatter was first elected to the Dail, the Irish parliament, in 1981, but lost his seat at the 2002 general election. He was re-elected in 2007.

    He is the author of many Private Member's bills which were subsequently enacted into law in Ireland, particularly in the areas of health, sport and justice. He is also former president of the Irish Council Against Blood Sports.

    A staunch supporter of Israel, Mr Shatter clashed repeatedly during the Gaza incursion in 2009 with the Sinn Fein MP Aengus Ó'Snodaigh, who claimed that Mr Shatter and the Israeli ambassador to Ireland had exposed Parliament's foreign affairs committee to "propaganda, twisted logic and half truths".

    And then this gem from two years ago.
    GARDAI caught short while protecting Justice Minister Alan Shatter’s home were refused the use of his toilet, it was claimed yesterday.

    Independent TD Mattie McGrath made the allegation in the Dail while accusing Mr Shatter of failing to show any respect for the Force’s members.

    Link to that story.http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/news/4865105/Alan-Shatter-on-his-own-doorstep.html
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Comments

  • #2
    Spanish Harlem
    Site Banned Posts: 99 ✭✭Spanish Harlem


    I'll be very surprised if AH can have this discussion without the anti-semites bringing up his religious background.


  • #3
    razorgil
    Registered Users Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭razorgil


    probably the most arrogant td i have ever seen enter dail eireann


  • #4
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Don't worry about it OP he will soon be shifted/transferred to some other department.


  • #5
    T-K-O
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    razorgil wrote: »
    probably the most arrogant td i have ever seen enter dail eireann

    Racist


  • #6
    razorgil
    Registered Users Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭razorgil


    HondaSami wrote: »
    Don't worry about it OP he will soon be shifted/transferred to some other department.

    we can but hope, i'm so sick of seeing his smarmy face smirking and laughing every time hes questionned about anything in the dail


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  • #7
    omahaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Ugh, I can't be dealing with two threads about this.


  • #8
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    He promised me last year he would be looking into the good Friday licencing laws last year, this year he refuses to answer simple questions on it. Not going near him or the party again.


  • #9
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    He is a droll, incompetent nincompoop. He should be ejected from government. He has no idea about departments he is responsible for and I believe he couldn't care less about them either.


  • #10
    Alter-Ego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Spanish Harlem wrote: »
    I'll be very surprised if AH can have this discussion without the anti-semites bringing up his religious background.
    Lets all keep our opinions to ourselves.

    Being labelled an "anti-Semite" is right up there with sex offender and paedophile these days.


  • #11
    Chop Chop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭Chop Chop


    Minister shítter, wouldn't let the gardaí shíte in his bog?

    What a racist.


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  • #12
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Chop Chop wrote: »
    Minister shítter, wouldn't let the gardaí shíte in his bog?

    Apparently the Garda on duty made a log of the incident.

    However no charges could be brought as the evidence was quite a mess. :)


  • #13
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    GarIT wrote: »
    He promised me last year he would be looking into the good Friday licencing laws last year, this year he refuses to answer simple questions on it. Not going near him or the party again.

    Its the big issues that motivate you, clearly.


  • #14
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Apparently the Garda on duty made a log of the incident.

    However no charges could be brought as the evidence was quite a mess. :)

    Thought the evidence disappeared :p


  • #15
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    HondaSami wrote: »
    Thought the evidence disappeared :p

    Yes there were at the time suggestions the evidence was buried but this was denied.

    But I am convinced the officer involved hands were dirty.


  • #16
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Spanish Harlem wrote: »
    I'll be very surprised if AH can have this discussion without the anti-semites bringing up his religious background.


    I wonder what the OP thinks of Jews.....


  • #17
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    razorgil wrote: »
    probably the most arrogant td i have ever seen enter dail eireann since P Flynn, who fronted up on his first day in a white suit. Jack Lynch on seeing him was overheard asking "who the hell is that?"
    FYP


  • #18
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    He should be thanking rather than scathing the Gardai for the prompt response and arrest in connection with the burglary on his home.


  • #19
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    gurramok wrote: »
    He should be thanking rather than scathing the Gardai for the prompt response and arrest in connection with the burglary on his home.

    I hope the burglars did not mess up his crapper.:D


  • #20
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Anyone hear Myles Dungan who was presenting the Pat Kenny show this morning? He refereed to Shatter as "Minister Shafter" when asking the Garda representative if he would be invited to the conference LOL.


  • #21
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    gurramok wrote: »
    He should be thanking rather than scathing the Gardai for the prompt response and arrest in connection with the burglary on his home.

    He is a bitter little man who should not be left in the job. He thinks it's perfectly ok for him to have gardai 24/7 outside his house but he wants to pay them less for doing this.


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  • #22
    3ndahalfof6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    razorgil wrote: »
    probably the most arrogant td i have ever seen enter dail eireann

    Not so sure, I think Richard Bruton would give him a run, I have met him in his constituency a few times, muck savage comes to mind.


  • #23
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    He's currently being vilified by the media at the moment at the behest of Garda spindoctors. Seriously, a story about not allowing some mucker garda from up the country destroy his jacks??

    He is one of the most competent politicians in the dail at present. He has a sharp legal mind. He has the courage of his convictions and is carrying out genuine reform of the justice system. His character is being assassinated at the moment in a vain attempt by the GRA and AGSI to keep the Gardai's inflated salaries intact.

    I'm actually a little bit shocked at the solidarity that the gardai are receiving now that they've suddenly sprang into action. The boys in blue were no where to be seen when others salaries and conditions were being cut, or when people in the private sector were losing their job.

    Also, not sure what his stance on Israel has to do with anything?

    Though I must say the gardai and the far-left make unusual bedfellows....


  • #24
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    He's currently being vilified by the media at the moment at the behest of Garda spindoctors. Seriously, a story about not allowing some mucker garda from up the country destroy his jacks??

    He is one of the most competent politicians in the dail at present. He has a sharp legal mind. He has the courage of his convictions and is carrying out genuine reform of the justice system. His character is being assassinated at the moment in a vain attempt by the GRA and AGSI to keep the Gardai's inflated salaries intact.

    I'm actually a little bit shocked at the solidarity that the gardai are receiving now that they've suddenly sprang into action. The boys in blue were no where to be seen when others salaries and conditions were being cut, or when people in the private sector were losing their job.

    Also, not sure what his stance on Israel has to do with anything?

    Though I must say the gardai and the far-left make unusual bedfellows....

    Our resident Blueshirt, rising to the defence!

    Alan Shatter is, in a word, a cunt.


  • #25
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Seriously, a story about not allowing some mucker garda from up the country destroy his jacks??

    Seriously no dubs working there at all?


  • #26
    Vizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    He's currently being vilified by the media at the moment at the behest of Garda spindoctors. Seriously, a story about not allowing some mucker garda from up the country destroy his jacks??

    He is one of the most competent politicians in the dail at present. He has a sharp legal mind. He has the courage of his convictions and is carrying out genuine reform of the justice system. His character is being assassinated at the moment in a vain attempt by the GRA and AGSI to keep the Gardai's inflated salaries intact.

    I'm actually a little bit shocked at the solidarity that the gardai are receiving now that they've suddenly sprang into action. The boys in blue were no where to be seen when others salaries and conditions were being cut, or when people in the private sector were losing their job.

    Also, not sure what his stance on Israel has to do with anything?

    Though I must say the gardai and the far-left make unusual bedfellows....

    Interesting,given the name,that you are the first to actually defend Mr Shatter.


  • #27
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Nodin wrote: »
    I wonder what the OP thinks of Jews.....

    If your that interested why don't you start a thread?

    You have plenty of time with your 12 posts a day average.

    I would say you have seen some amount of people here come and go.

    Anyway it's Good Friday and the pubs are closed hopefully there will be less alcohol related crime for the overstretched Garda to deal with tonight.

    However with the Easter public holiday the pubs will once again be in busy mode.

    If you have that much free time to spend on the boards why not see if you can get one of those moderator jobs and sit in the front seat for a change?


  • #28
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Interesting,given the name,that you are the first to actually defend Mr Shatter.

    What are you insinuating?


  • #29
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ranicand wrote: »
    If your that interested why don't you start a thread?

    ......


    No, sure I'll just ask you - What do ye think of Jews?


  • #30
    Truncheon Rouge
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 388 ✭✭Truncheon Rouge


    Made an unwarranted apology on Irelands behalf for being neutral in WW2, solely because of his own religious background. At the same time keeps conveniently quiet on Israel.

    I for one don't see anything wrong with Ireland's stance during WW2 and think there was no better strategy possible. So I reject his personally motivated needless apology on my behalf.

    Ill be only too happy to see him go, and will help in any small small way that I can, for this reason.


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  • #31
    Vizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    What are you insinuating?

    Not insinuating anything !!

    Paranoid much ???


  • #32
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Not a fan of his for a number of reasons. I don't blame him for the collapse of Ireland's justice system but it certainly seems to have become far, far worse under his direction in terms of the number of suspended sentences handed out for serious offenses, and also on the other end of the scale, the amount of "on the spot" power the Gardai have to enforce "laws" above and beyond what's written in the statute books, such as "Grafton street must be completely devoid of people by X AM".

    This could just be my opinion of course, maybe neither of the aforementioned issues have actually got worse under Shatter and were always as awful as they are now?

    With regard to the Israel situation, I detest his attitude especially towards pro Palestinian activists but he's not Minister for Foreign Affairs so does it really matter? He has no authority in that area except to make noise, and as we've seen from people like Leo Varadkar, sticking one's fingers into pies which belong in other departments is not exclusive to Shatter, it's an unfortunate trait which seems to apply more or less across the board...


  • #33
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    Though I must say the gardai and the far-left make unusual bedfellows....

    Strange Bedfellows? Maybe the gardai aren't checking as diligently as you are for them pesky reds under the bed :)


  • #34
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Not insinuating anything !!

    Paranoid much ???

    You said you found my response interesting given my username. Care to expand on that?


  • #35
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Nodin wrote: »
    No, sure I'll just ask you - What do ye think of Jews?

    I think many of them have a keen interest in academic hobbies.

    What do you think of me because to be honest I am no longer feeling the love and I might even consider putting you on my Ignore List.

    Well to be honest you could not really call it a list as you would be the first person on it.

    Anyway it only a message board no hard feelings.:)


  • #36
    Sergeant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    His personal manner can be slightly abrupt, but having Bertie Ahern levels of superficial charm isn't a requirement for holding ministerial office. Like all departments, cutbacks have had to be made, but the streets of Dublin haven't turned into something like you'd see in an episode of The Wire.

    Doing a solid job.


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  • #37
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »

    With regard to the Israel situation, I detest his attitude especially towards pro Palestinian activists but he's not Minister for Foreign Affairs so does it really matter? He has no authority in that area except to make noise, and as we've seen from people like Leo Varadkar, sticking one's fingers into pies which belong in other departments is not exclusive to Shatter, it's an unfortunate trait which seems to apply more or less across the board...
    Truncheon Rouge wrote: »
    At the same time keeps conveniently quiet on Israel.

    Make up your mind lads. He either speaks about Israel too much, or keeps conveniently quiet. Which is it?


  • #38
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,702 ✭✭✭flutered


    shatters firm were/are the most expensive family law firm in ireland, perhaps the upkeep of his manhattan apartments are the reason for that, he has a few more scattered about elsewhere one must assume.


  • #39
    Sergeant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    flutered wrote: »
    shatters firm were/are the most expensive family law firm in ireland, perhaps the upkeep of his manhattan apartments are the reason for that, he has a few more scattered about elsewhere one must assume.

    So he had the utter temerity to be successful in his profession. Why bring that into it?


  • #40
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Sergeant wrote: »
    So he had the utter temerity to be successful in his profession. Why bring that into it?

    Yes well done to Alan it's a pity others in his clan could not follow his shinning example.



    Shatter's in-law is quizzed in fraud probe

    Howard Danker, who is in his 40s, was arrested and quizzed at Dun Laoghaire Garda Station yesterday.

    It is understood Mr Danker was detained under the provisions of Section 4 of the Criminal Justice Act.

    He was released without charge and a file is to be prepared for the Director of Public Prosecutions.It is believed the arrest was made by detectives assigned to the garda fraud squad as part of a probe into the management of properties.

    Mr Danker and his family lived in Marbella in Spain but has returned to Ireland in recent times.

    Minister Shatter did not return calls and his spokeswoman at the Department of Justice did not comment.

    Full story here.http://www.herald.ie/news/shatters-inlaw-is-quizzed-in-fraud-probe-29105003.html


  • #41
    Vizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    You said you found my response interesting given my username. Care to expand on that?

    Ok,Ill bite.

    Given your username,as I said,it was interesting(or maybe predicable) that you would be the first to defend Mr Shatter having regard to his stance on Israel.

    You're not him are you ?


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  • #42
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Yes well done to Alan it's a pity others in his clan could not follow his shinning example.



    Full story here.http://www.herald.ie/news/shatters-inlaw-is-quizzed-in-fraud-probe-29105003.html

    That fcuk all to do with him tbf.


  • #43
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I think many of them have a keen interest in academic hobbies.

    ....

    Jaysus thats mad. The last time you were convinced they were big on the arts.....
    Yet I bet you would fiy of the handle if I suggested we should reduce the toxic influence of Jewish Hollywood
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83446320&postcount=36
    All Hollywood studios are Jewish owned and run.
    Hollywood movies are full of casual sex drug use and violence.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83446744&postcount=63


  • #44
    Dwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »
    What are you insinuating?
    I think he might be saying you're a FG fanboy who would say day was night if it supported the government point of view :eek: Which is shocking, obviously untrue, demeaning and defamatory. I would demand a retraction if I was you. But then I'm not you.

    I'm not hugely fond of Alan myself. TBH. In the same way I'm not fond of steping in dog-poo and walking it across the hall carpet.


  • #45
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Ok,Ill bite.

    Given your username,as I said,it was interesting(or maybe predicable) that you would be the first to defend Mr Shatter having regard to his stance on Israel.

    You're not him are you ?

    I don't recall Yitzhak Rabin making any reference to Israel before you noted his username was interesting.

    It's terrible how some people can't look past a person's race or religious preference. I thought we'd have progressed beyond all that by now. :(


  • #46
    Sergeant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Yes well done to Alan it's a pity others in his clan could not follow his shinning example.

    So Alan Shatter is supposed to be responsible for the actions of his in-laws?

    Ridiculous nonsense.


  • #47
    Truncheon Rouge
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 388 ✭✭Truncheon Rouge


    flutered wrote: »
    shatters firm were/are the most expensive family law firm in ireland, perhaps the upkeep of his manhattan apartments are the reason for that, he has a few more scattered about elsewhere one must assume.

    Begrudge harder son, he's getting away.


  • #48
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    HondaSami wrote: »
    That fcuk all to do with him tbf.

    He is minster for Justice having extended family investigated for fraud must be some what embarrassing to Minster Shatter?


  • #49
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Ranicand wrote: »
    He is minster for Justice having extended family investigated for fraud must be some what embarrassing to Minster Shatter?

    Embarrassing yes but you cannot blame him for the actions of his family and im no fan of Alan Shatter but im all for fair play.


  • #50
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Ok,Ill bite.

    Given your username,as I said,it was interesting(or maybe predicable) that you would be the first to defend Mr Shatter having regard to his stance on Israel.

    You're not him are you ?

    No I am not Alan Shatter. Shockingly enough there is more than one Jewish man in Ireland.

    Why would think its predictable? Do you think Jews are part of one big pulsating hive mind?

    Also I haven't expressed a position on Israel. I just said shatters position isn't all that relevant.


  • #51
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    HondaSami wrote: »
    Embarrassing yes but you cannot blame him for the actions of his family and im no fan of Alan Shatter but im all for fair play.


    But sure they're all in it together.....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83898192&postcount=43


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