*** Leaving Cert Higher Irish 2014 - Before and after discussion

Chonaic17 · 08-06-2014 1:20pm

Well there's so much time to write and they really don't expect much, doesn't the question say you have to write at least 600 words, which for me is like 1.5 pages, with all the time if you can't think of a story you can plan it out for a few minutes and have no trouble with timing.

bb1234567 · 08-06-2014 1:27pm

Chonaic17 wrote: »

Well there's so much time to write and they really don't expect much, doesn't the question say you have to write at least 600 words, which for me is like 1.5 pages, with all the time if you can't think of a story you can plan it out for a few minutes and have no trouble with timing.

I thought it says 2.5 pages? how long are you all writing for your essays?

plmko · 08-06-2014 1:41pm

I was told to write four pages

forevergold22 wrote: »

Are ye all learning the prós and filíocht from 2012 and 2013?

Yes, just incase. I can't risk them coming up and then it affected my grade. I need Gaeilge to go well

Chonaic17 · 08-06-2014 1:43pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

I thought it says 2.5 pages? how long are you all writing for your essays?

I have quite small handwriting, so that's all it takes for me to get to the minimum word count, but I always have the time to go much further than that.

yohan the great · 08-06-2014 1:47pm

Likelihood of an essay on daoine oga coming up in yer opinions?

laylaax · 08-06-2014 1:50pm

yohan the great wrote: »

Likelihood of an essay on daoine oga coming up in yer opinions?

I think very likely , something has come up like every year so

gal555 · 08-06-2014 1:56pm

I had written around 5 pages for an essay in the mocks.....but an elaborate plan.

We were told the reason is so that you can actually afford to sit there and gather your opinions on the given topic rather then just regurgitate a learned off essay because you've no time.

Makes sense really....the way the English paper 1 should be I think!

I'm covering social media, economic crisis, life of youth and Irish pride....
Hopefully that'll get me something.

Fiske · 08-06-2014 2:07pm

I don't suppose anyone has something high standard for Daoine Óga that they wouldn't mind sharing? It's a glaring gap in the stuff I have, and I really don't feel good about not having it.

Mundy07 · 08-06-2014 2:18pm

Does anyone know a seanfhocail about love?
Something like true love sees past your faults.... That type of thing?
Thanks

I'm writing a scéal too. I thought I was alone. I have one that I can adapt to quite a few titles. I'm also presuming a negative title after the last two years.

If éad comes up I'm stuck though.

Can anyone think of a seanfhocail or saying with regard to love? In case fíor grá comes up?

Something that says 'true love ignores your mistakes' or ' true love sees pasts your faults' ??
Thanks

spurious · 08-06-2014 2:28pm

Mundy07 wrote: »

Does anyone know a seanfhocail about love?
Something like true love sees past your faults.... That type of thing?
Thanks

Ceileann searc ainimh ’s locht.

Mundy07 · 08-06-2014 2:29pm

Thank you what does it mean exactly?

spurious · 08-06-2014 2:31pm

Sorry, I just thought that might help too and was coming back to edit it. It means 'Love conceals imperfections and defects' - or roughly that.
Searc is a kind of literary word for love.

Mundy07 · 08-06-2014 2:34pm

You're a legend. Thanks a million

FatRat · 08-06-2014 2:43pm

Does anyone know where I can find a summary of a thig na tit orm in ENGLISH. I'm fine for the Irish but I don't know the story and I don't want to read the whole book.

aleatorio · 08-06-2014 2:49pm

Realistically speaking, would writing 600-700 words in good irish be enough? I know they say it is, but would it really? :pac:

aleatorio · 08-06-2014 2:58pm

Can anyone tell me what this means in english?

is fearr an diabhal abhus ná an diabhal anall.

jellytots95 · 08-06-2014 3:01pm

FatRat wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can find a summary of a thig na tit orm in ENGLISH. I'm fine for the Irish but I don't know the story and I don't want to read the whole book.

Just google 'house dont fall on me' and a google book version comes up

iamthestig · 08-06-2014 3:02pm

Any ideas for an "An Triail" question?

jellytots95 · 08-06-2014 3:02pm

jellytots95 wrote: »

Just google 'house dont fall on me' and a google book version comes up

Oh wait thats not a summary its all of it sorry

FatRat · 08-06-2014 3:04pm

aleatorio wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what this means in english?
is fearr an diabhal abhus ná an diabhal anall.

Better to keep enemies close than far away.. I think. Thanks for the thig na tit orm - to the above poster^

EoghanIRL · 08-06-2014 3:06pm

Our teacher said if you are looking for an a1 then try and write 4 pages . For essay this is
How much are ye being told to write ?

2014lchelp · 08-06-2014 3:08pm

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Our teacher said if you are looking for an a1 then try and write 4 pages . For essay this is
How much are ye being told to write ?

FOUR?????? our teacher said 2 - 2.5 max

chatterboxxx95 · 08-06-2014 3:10pm

aleatorio wrote: »

Realistically speaking, would writing 600-700 words in good irish be enough? I know they say it is, but would it really? :pac:

My irish teacher said to us 600 words is plenty, regards Aiste anyway. Anymore and if you're not repeating yourself or going off topic , the more you write, the more likely you are to make silly grammar mistakes. I wrote 2 pages and 3/4 in my mocks and got an A2 and apparently our mocks were marked "fairly".

eva_123 · 08-06-2014 3:10pm

Has anyone got a good essay on the Irish language.. I had an A1 one but lost it and I'm so worried its going to come up now, please please please it'd be so appreciated!

Fiske · 08-06-2014 3:14pm

My Irish teacher is amazing and she said that the 600 words or whatever they ask you to write is fine. I know that writing less than what they ask can potentially bring you down a lot, but writing more can also do more harm than good since they care much more about accuracy in your Irish than the actual content of the essay, and writing more just gives you more opportunity to make mistakes.

On another note, if anyone has an essay on Daoine Óga they'd be willing to share, I will love them forever. I have nothing at all on it due to missing a lot of school this year and now I'm really worried about it coming up.

aleatorio · 08-06-2014 3:14pm

2014lchelp wrote: »

FOUR?????? our teacher said 2 - 2.5 max

I was told 4 too, but I aint doing that :pac:

chatterboxxx95 wrote: »

My irish teacher said to us 600 words is plenty, regards Aiste anyway. Anymore and if you're not repeating yourself or going off topic , the more you write, the more likely you are to make silly grammar mistakes. I wrote 2 pages and 3/4 in my mocks and got an A2 and apparently our mocks were marked "fairly".

Awh thats such a relief

I feel like if I can take forever to plan and write out phrases and stuff and get my thoughts in order, and take my time writing, it'll be much better than a rushed 4 page essay :pac:

EoghanIRL · 08-06-2014 3:14pm

2014lchelp wrote: »

FOUR?????? our teacher said 2 - 2.5 max

They aren't that nice though If you are looking for an A1.
I do understand that you make more inaccuracies the more you write . But my intro and closing would take an a4 page in itself . I have so much irish learned off anyways . I might as well use it , seeing as I will never have anything to do with Irish ever again once I'm finished

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cferry3 · 08-06-2014 3:30pm

I wrote just over 2pages for my mocks and got 84/100 so u don't need anything like 4!!

Chonaic17 · 08-06-2014 3:32pm

EoghanIRL wrote: »

They aren't that nice though If you are looking for an A1.
I do understand that you make more inaccuracies the more you write . But my intro and closing would take an a4 page in itself . I have so much irish learned off anyways . I might as well use it , seeing as I will never have anything to do with Irish ever again once I'm finished .

I agree with you. Yeah, of course it's possible to get an A1 with a smaller essay (~600 words), but you do leave a bit up to chance, and if you have good Irish then a few mistakes spread out over a lot of good work looks a lot better than a smaller amount of mistakes but with less written in between. My mocks story was 14 A4 pages long and got 100/100, now obviously that's a bit extreme, but you shouldn't limit yourself to 2-3 pages, you have all that time, and if you can think of a plan, you may as well use it.

CloCloBrowne · 08-06-2014 3:57pm

JD244 wrote: »

Our teachers saying Dís and Colscaradh, I think. I clearly need more Gaeilge prep. She's new to the job and hoping their going to cycle through the syllabus. Essay's focused mainly on the culú and a good few topics linked in to it so emigration, politics, lives of young people today, education, even sport.

I have a feeling the prós will be cáca milis/an coilear lasa (always a choice between them two) if its cáca milis then I think the fillíocht will be colscaradh, however if dís comes up I think it will be with an spailpin fánach. Essay I think it will be something like "Rudaí a théann I bhfeidhm ar saol an déagóra." I can't predict anything for an trial because I do Gafa, but to anyone who does Gafa, my guess would be something on Breandán or Eoin because Eithne has come up the past two years

Fiske · 08-06-2014 4:08pm

Anyone got a good essay on Daoine Óga that they wouldn't mind sharing? I've been sick for so much of this year that I don't have one, and now I'm pretty worried about it.

Curious x · 08-06-2014 4:10pm

CloCloBrowne wrote: »

I have a feeling the prós will be cáca milis/an coilear lasa (always a choice between them two) if its cáca milis then I think the fillíocht will be colscaradh, however if dís comes up I think it will be with an spailpin fánach. Essay I think it will be something like "Rudaí a théann I bhfeidhm ar saol an déagóra." I can't predict anything for an trial because I do Gafa, but to anyone who does Gafa, my guess would be something on Breandán or Eoin because Eithne has come up the past two years

I wish we knew what was coming up!

Efafitz1994 · 08-06-2014 4:22pm

I swear if stadas na gaeilge or something along those lines come up I'd be so delighted...what are the odds??

sarbear18 · 08-06-2014 4:40pm

aleatorio wrote: »

Realistically speaking, would writing 600-700 words in good irish be enough? I know they say it is, but would it really? :pac:

Definitely :-) quality not quantity! No matter how much you write if you're not answering the question accurately you're not going to get the A :-) Don't worry!

b3rnade11e · 08-06-2014 4:40pm

Chonaic17 wrote: »

My mocks story was 14 A4 pages long and got 100/100

That just made me sad..:(

kateconolly · 08-06-2014 4:43pm

Okay so I have an essay on drugs, alcohol, social media and Idirlion...will that cover me??

sayitaintso · 08-06-2014 4:52pm

I’m learning:
Aistí: Daoine Óga, Na Meáin Chumarsáide, Ceol, An Ghaeilge

Prós & Filíocht: Dís & Cáca Milis, An Spailpín Fánach, Colscaradh & Géibheann

An Triail: Teicnící drámata, Mailí, Bean Uí Chathasaigh, maybe Seán & Liam, Tragóid

Do yous reckon that’s enough? What are the rest of you doing?

hontheroyalz · 08-06-2014 4:55pm

I've next to nothing done for irish..I could answer the essay on anything got to do with Meath na Gaeilge but thats about it, what should I cram??

Tanya696 · 08-06-2014 4:57pm

Can someone send me an essay on meain cumarsaide.. Or cyber bulling

Tanya696 · 08-06-2014 4:59pm

sayitaintso wrote: »

I’m learning:
Aistí: Daoine Óga, Na Meáin Chumarsáide, Ceol, An Ghaeilge

Prós & Filíocht: Dís & Cáca Milis, An Spailpín Fánach, Colscaradh & Géibheann

An Triail: Teicnící drámata, Mailí, Bean Uí Chathasaigh, maybe Seán & Liam, Tragóid

Do yous reckon that’s enough? What are the rest of you doing?

Can u send me your essay on meain cumarsaide

ave123 · 08-06-2014 5:01pm

god im really worried about this exam...only got 46/100 for my essay in the mocks and i had it learnt off to a T. also my irish isnt good enough to make up my own paragraphs and phrases....my irish teacher justs writes up the essays and tells us to learn them

sayitaintso · 08-06-2014 5:03pm

Tanya696 wrote: »

Can u send me your essay on meain cumarsaide

I haven't got it written out. I just learn off points for each paragraph and a bit of grammar and vocab. So I'm not sure how much help it'd be to ye, but I can send you those if you want?

FatRat · 08-06-2014 5:03pm

Who here does the "Dánta Breise" section in paper 2? I'm thinking about answering on that instead of a thig na tit orm but I need to a know a few things! In part 2 of the question when it asks what is meant by a few of the lines in the poem, how much of an explanation would you need to give? How much would you need to write?

Keelin1244 · 08-06-2014 5:17pm

Does anyone think Irish language for the essay?

bb1234567 · 08-06-2014 5:23pm

Are you all actually learning essays? is that not really difficult? Im just learning bits of vocab about topics, much less stress

nailforhammer · 08-06-2014 5:30pm

hanza123 wrote: »

Does anyone know where to get marking schemes or just answers for the sample edco listening tests?

Yes they are all just off the old course so check 2010,2009,2008 etc. marking schemes on examinations.ie

nailforhammer · 08-06-2014 5:33pm

sayitaintso wrote: »

I’m learning:
Aistí: Daoine Óga, Na Meáin Chumarsáide, Ceol, An Ghaeilge

Prós & Filíocht: Dís & Cáca Milis, An Spailpín Fánach, Colscaradh & Géibheann

An Triail: Teicnící drámata, Mailí, Bean Uí Chathasaigh, maybe Seán & Liam, Tragóid

Do yous reckon that’s enough? What are the rest of you doing?

Why is everyone leaving out An Gnáthrud? It has never come up before?

sayitaintso · 08-06-2014 5:37pm

nailforhammer wrote: »

Why is everyone leaving out An Gnáthrud? It has never come up before?

I'm not leaving it out, just focusing on the things on that list. I will be going over it. I just haven't really heard anyone mention it in their predictions. Not that we should be relying on predictions after that whole thing with Heaney.

Tanya696 · 08-06-2014 5:56pm

sayitaintso wrote: »

I haven't got it written out. I just learn off points for each paragraph and a bit of grammar and vocab. So I'm not sure how much help it'd be to ye, but I can send you those if you want?

Please that would be brillant

ave123 wrote: »

god im really worried about this exam...only got 46/100 for my essay in the mocks and i had it learnt off to a T. also my irish isnt good enough to make up my own paragraphs and phrases....my irish teacher justs writes up the essays and tells us to learn them

Me too

NoodlesVicD1 · 08-06-2014 6:07pm

Dont be worrying anyone, you have the biggest part of your exam done with the oral and then with the tape you have 50% of your exam done before you even get into the written paper. Your half way home at that!

At this stage if you are really worried just focus on Media and Daoine oga as essays and then An Thriail or whatever one you are doing yourself. As someone has already said the pros and filiocht are only worth 10% for the amount of work you have to put in so dont stress now if you havent got that done. Listen to your tape a few times and be familiar with the questions and the same goes for your reading comprehensions which are worth the same as your essays. You will honestly be fine just make use of the time you have left wisely!!

*** Leaving Cert Higher Irish 2014 - Before and after discussion

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