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Price Changes 2015/2016
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I'll just edit a previous postJoeyjoejoe43 wrote: »On wildcard lads, so just wondering which of the price rise websites is the most accurate this year? FISO? TotalFPL?
.Lads.
Forget about Totalfpl for price changes. It is only useful for their daily (quickly) updated list of price & status changes. They provide info about "NTI transfers today" & "ownership"... All info collected on the official site. I think they stopped tracking price changes (they didn't adjust their algorithm).
The 2 reliable sites are:
Then, http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php is interesting for its FAQ
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I'll just copy and past a previous post.Lads.
Forget about Totalfpl for price changes. It is only useful for their daily quickly updated list of price changes. I think they stopped tracking price changes. Their list of changes is only obtained from collecting info on the official site.
The 2 reliable sites are:
Then, http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php is interesting for the "NTI today" info (the number of transfers on a given day) and for the status change tab.
I don't get this hatred for TotalFPL and they certainly have not "stopped tracking price changes" - that's misinformation. Might not be the best but they still track it
You recommend FISO for NTI, I think TotalFPL gives you that and more - total NTI, selected by, % change as well as giving you the update tab where you can see price and status changes from previous days (FISO has these separated)
Yes their overall reliability of changes isn't great but neither is FISO's which is actually worse at times.
I use TotalFPL far more than FISO0 -
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So according to Fantasyfootballfix Pedro is now at 212% of the way towards a price rise. Assuming his price is fixed until after the international break he could be close to 300%. Does anyone know if that means he will go up by .3 or just .1? Would like to get him in but budget is tight and unless I take a 4pt hit it'll be another week before I get him in. The budget will stretch to .1 extra but not .2 or .3The Pedro thing is actually annoying.Likewise. Everyone is just guessing with Pedro. His price is definitely anomalous. It's bad luck for Pedro owners as his price should have risen by at least 0.2 by now based on his NTI since Saturday.
FPLS have him at +80% now.
Can't it be possible that most of Pedro's transfers are made under WC?
Also, I haven't tracked it but when his protection supposedly ended, what did predictions website do? Did they really reset his NTI to zero or they carried the previous ones over?
Because this extra protection time sounds ridiculous (dare I say criminal ?!
). It unbalances completely the game.
Again here I don't understand why FPL is not transparent on the matter. Why keeping the price changes workings such a ...
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I don't get this hatred for TotalFPL and they certainly have not "stopped tracking price changes" - that's misinformation. Might not be the best but they still track it
You recommend FISO for NTI, I think TotalFPL gives you that and more - total NTI, selected by, % change as well as giving you the update tab where you can see price and status changes from previous days (FISO has these separated)
Yes their overall reliability of changes isn't great but neither is FISO's which is actually worse at times.
I use TotalFPL far more than FISO
There's no hatred. Not at all. 2 years ago when they broke through, TFPL were the main site I was using, as were many (most ?) FPLers. They were the most reliable one. I think they didn't update their algorithm (hence the "stop tracking part"). All the info they provide you can find on FPL site yourself, TFPL just saves you the hassle.
Just a quick note: I'm not sure their "% change" is reliable since we don't know what target they refer to and considering their "progress" tab is completely wrong, chances are their target is not accurate also.
I agree with you that they're showing the same bits of info than FISO. I shall edit my post regarding that. I must admit I have a bit of a FISO bias since they started this whole thing, have a great FAQ and were the first site I ever followed on the matter.
But. The main point is totalFPL (& FISO) predictions are absolutely u s e l e s s !
So, for people willing to track carefully price changes while on WC, they HAVE to forget about these sites.
As you said, they're useful for the status and price changes updates but this is a posteriori info. What most of us want here is a priori info. And for these it's FFF & FPLS.
Yeah. It's a pity we didn't get that information sticky in which could be listed all useful websites regarding FPL. We actually never got any return from the feedback thread. Not that the forum really needs any change but I think this sticky could be a great complement to it.Again.0 -
But. The main point is totalFPL (& FISO) predictions are absolutely u s e l e s s !
So, for people willing to track carefully price changes while on WC, they HAVE to forget about these sites.
As you said, they're useful for the status change and price changes updates but this is a posteriori info. What most of us want here is a priori info. And for these it's FFF & FPLS.
How is it hatred to simply state the fact that they are completely inaccurate!? :eek: I dont think they would claim to be themselves. I've not looked at them for ages because any time i have for the past year they have been a million miles off the mark. Surprised if they are still tracking, I'd have assumed that was just the old site trundling along un-updatedYeah. It's a pity we didn't get that information sticky in which could be listed all useful websites regarding FPL. We actually never got any return from the feedback thread. Not that the forum really needs any change but I think this sticky could be a great complement to it.
Thats partly why i started the FPL Resources thread, i thought it was perhaps more constructive that being grumpy or simply screaming at my computer "Read the f$#@ing thread!!"
But it gets lost down the page and i keep forgetting to bump it.0 -
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Well I didn't even know you created it (must have been preseason while I was still on my FPL holidays)Thats partly why i started the FPL Resources thread, i thought it was perhaps more constructive that being grumpy or simply screaming at my computer "Read the f$#@ing thread!!"
But it gets lost down the page and i keep forgetting to bump it.
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I bought Kolarov for £5.5. I got the rise to £5.6 when his price went up. He now costs £5.8 to buy. Should I have gotten another rise by again by now or will I have to wait until he rises to £5.9?
Also regarding price rises- my team is now worth £101.9 with £0.1 in the bank. I understand I will get more if I sell Kolarov etc BUT is there any benefit in the price rises if I don't sell the players who have risen?
Like I want to sell Fabregas but he has dropped to £8.8 so if I was to sell him if I would only get £8.8 even though I have a higher team value.
So what I'm really trying to ask is if the increased player values will be incorporated into tranfer budget in any way or how people get around this?
Doesn't really seem like any benefit to having a higher value if you can't do anything with the extra value.
Any advice is appreciated and thanks for reading the long post (as always
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Cookie_Dough wrote: »I bought Kolarov for £5.5. I got the rise to £5.6 when his price went up. He now costs £5.8 to buy. Should I have gotten another rise by again by now or will I have to wait until he rises to £5.9?
Also regarding price rises- my team is now worth £101.9 with £0.1 in the bank. I understand I will get more if I sell Kolarov etc BUT is there any benefit in the price rises if I don't sell the players who have risen?
Like I want to sell Fabregas but he has dropped to £8.8 so if I was to sell him if I would only get £8.8 even though I have a higher team value.
So what I'm really trying to ask is if the increased player values will be incorporated into tranfer budget in any way or how people get around this?
Doesn't really seem like any benefit to having a higher value if you can't do anything with the extra value.
Any advice is appreciated and thanks for reading the long post (as always)
Not quite sure if I understand what you're asking, but the only way in which you get the benefit of your players rising is if you sell them (due to injury, lack of form, etc.). Then you will have get more than you pay for them.
Someone like Kolarov could be a season keeper, so you may never get the benefit of his price rises. Also if he does rise by quite a bit, you may be reluctant to hold onto him, as he might cost more to buy back that you will get for selling him.0 -
Yeah if you don't sell the players you made benefit from, you won't take advantage of the price rises.Cookie_Dough wrote: »I bought Kolarov for £5.5. I got the rise to £5.6 when his price went up. He now costs £5.8 to buy. Should I have gotten another rise by again by now or will I have to wait until he rises to £5.9?
Also regarding price rises- my team is now worth £101.9 with £0.1 in the bank. I understand I will get more if I sell Kolarov etc BUT is there any benefit in the price rises if I don't sell the players who have risen?
Like I want to sell Fabregas but he has dropped to £8.8 so if I was to sell him if I would only get £8.8 even though I have a higher team value.
So what I'm really trying to ask is if the increased player values will be incorporated into tranfer budget in any way or how people get around this?
Doesn't really seem like any benefit to having a higher value if you can't do anything with the extra value.
Any advice is appreciated and thanks for reading the long post (as always)
But it's a long term process. Exempli Gracia. Kolarov is on fire. Clichy is out injured. So bank as much as you can on him. And maybe by Christmas he'll be less attractive and you'll be able to sell and make a £0.3m or £0.4m (or more) profit on him and get a Chelsea def like Azpi (who would have gone down if Chelsea continue to underperform now) if/because Chelsea are settling at the back.
What you lost on Fabregas is lost... unless he rises back up which I can't see happening. You kept him for too long.
If you want to increase your team value significantly and take advanatge of it later in the season, you have to "cross-analyse" 2 things: the in-form players (e.g. Ayew, Gomis, Wilson, Mahrez etc...), the favourable runs of fixtures (fantasyfootballscout next 6 ticker is a must for that) (e.g. Man City, Bournemouth, Stoke, West Ham...). From this analysis, try and accomodate into your team as many players as it is reasonable to do (e.g. Wilson & the City usual suspects are must haves at the moment for that team value purpose). In a couple of weeks time, it's very possible that a few of these players will have not kept their great form and it'll be time to sell them, cash in the profit hopefully made on them and jump on the new hot ones. etc... etc...
Of course, like OnecoldHand mentioned, some players are long-term (season) keepers. Then, late in the season it'll be up to you to decide if you want to get your flexibility back towards them or not.
That's what FHFC & myself did last year with Sanchez. He got injured by GW25 or something. His price started to drop but not very fast. We had a £0.5m to £0.7m net profit on him. Selling him meant that if the injury was not as bad as first feared, we could have to buy him back for a dearer price (and may actually be in a position not to be able to at all). We did decide to sell him though keeping in the bank a bit of cash to get him back quickly if needed. He did come back quickly. So at first it looked like we made a mistake.
But very late in the season, Arsenal was part of a blank GW for a few PL sides which was followed by 2 DGWs. We were then in a very comfortable position regarding him (it was very easy to sell him and get him back since his price had not moved very much after his injury) while many had to make a definite choice: holding onto him and benching an £11.5m player for his blank or selling him and not buying him back (downgrading to the likes of Ozil, Ramsey for the Gunners DGW). Fabregas returned me 11 pts during Sanchez "flexible" time out of my team and Sanchez got a 15 pointer when we "flexibly" got him back... 0 -
OneColdHand wrote: »Not quite sure if I understand what you're asking, but the only way in which you get the benefit of your players rising is if you sell them (due to injury, lack of form, etc.). Then you will have get more than you pay for them.
Someone like Kolarov could be a season keeper, so you may never get the benefit of his price rises. Also if he does rise by quite a bit, you may be reluctant to hold onto him, as he might cost more to buy back that you will get for selling him.
No you understood my rambling correctly and you answered my question exactly. Thanks. I need to dump Fab ASAP. Also have Depay who looks like he will drop
I was kind of unsure what benefit a rising player would have if you didn't intend to sell (such as Kolarov potentially) but as you say form etc may drop (with price) and may decide to sell.Yeah if you don't sell the players you made benefit from, you won't take advantage of the price rises.
But it's a long term process. Exempli Gracia. Kolarov is on fire. Clichy is out injured. So bank as much as you can on him. And maybe by Christmas he'll be less attractive and you'll be able to sell and make a £0.3m or £0.4m (or more) profit on him and get a Chelsea def like Azpi (who would have gone down if Chelsea continue to underperform now) if/because Chelsea are settling at the back.
What you lost on Fabregas is lost... unless he rises back up which I can't see happening. You kept him for too long.
If you want to increase your team value significantly and take advanatge of it later in the season, you have to "cross-analyse" 2 things: the in-form players (e.g. Ayew, Gomis, Wilson, Mahrez etc...), the favourable runs of fixtures (fantasyfootballscout next 6 ticker is a must for that) (e.g. Man City, Bournemouth, Stoke, West Ham...). From this analysis, try and accomodate into your team as many players as it is reasonable to do (e.g. Wilson & the City usual suspects are must haves at the moment for that team value purpose). In a couple of weeks time, it's very possible that a few of these players will have not kept their great form and it'll be time to sell them, cash in the profit hopefully made on them and jump on the new hot ones. etc... etc...
Of course, like OnecoldHand mentioned, some players are long-term (season) keepers. Then, late in the season it'll be up to you to decide if you want to get your flexibility back towards them or not.
That's what FHFC & myself did last year with Sanchez. He got injured by GW25 or something. His price started to drop but not very fast. We had a £0.5m to £0.7m net profit on him. Selling him meant that if the injury was not as bad as first feared, we could have to buy him back for a dearer price (and may actually be in a position not to be able to at all). We did decide to sell him though keeping in the bank a bit of cash to get him back quickly if needed. He did come back quickly. So at first it looked like we made a mistake.
But very late in the season, Arsenal was part of a blank GW for a few PL sides which was followed by 2 DGWs. We were then in a very comfortable position regarding him (it was very easy to sell him and get him back since his price had not moved very much after his injury) while many had to make a definite choice: holding onto him and benching an £11.5m player for his blank or selling him and not buying him back (downgrading to the likes of Ozil, Ramsey for the Gunners DGW). Fabregas returned me 11 pts during Sanchez "flexible" time out of my team and Sanchez got a 15 pointer when we "flexibly" got him back...
That's for your informative and detailled reply. Much appreciated. I'll keep track as you have suggested. The moral of the story is dump Fabregas ASAP 0 -
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Swiper the fox wrote: »What were the circumstances that seem to have made week 3 so profitable?
Are those circumstances likely to arise again anytime soon:o
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