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The scam thread ..all motors scams in here!

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    #1262
    dumbyearbook
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dumbyearbook


    kbannon wrote: »
    If thats' the case then the dutch buyer will arrive, wire the (not real) money into your friend's account, take the car and leave. A few days later, the wire will bounce and your friend will wonder why they were stupid enough to not listen to your advice.

    The only acceptable two payment methods IMO are cash (but there's a potential risk of a follow up burglary) and in-bank transfer. Nothing else is good enough, not draft, not online transfer, not western Union from the Prince of Nigeria, not IOU, etc. If the buyer refuses to do one or other of these then tell them to FO.

    Ya that's what I thought too but the Dutch guy is lodging the money by IBAN into AIB no western union or bank drafts which would be an automatic no. It all " seems" pure legit...

    I'm not sure what you mean by "in bank transfer" i think we would need to ensure the account the money comes from is actually the Dutch guys account.


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    #1263
    redsteveireland
    Registered Users Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    I'd be surprised after handing over a/c and Iban if your friend ever meets this 'dutch' buyer.


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    #1264
    dumbyearbook
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dumbyearbook


    redsteveireland wrote: »
    I'd be surprised after handing over a/c and Iban if your friend ever meets this 'dutch' buyer.

    Why what'll happen? The account he is using for this sale (if it goes ahead ) is never used there is opno money in it and it won't be used after either.

    Still worried though just wondering how this can turn out as a scam - if he doesn't show up that's a good sign obviously in which case we close the account.


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    #1265
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    You mean what would happen when your friend gives over his bank account details to someone who knows his name and address (as these too would have been provided in order for the buyer to come and see the car).
    ID fraud is easy to achieve with these simple items - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_theft


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    #1266
    dumbyearbook
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dumbyearbook


    kbannon wrote: »
    You mean what would happen when your friend gives over his bank account details to someone who knows his name and address (as these too would have been provided in order for the buyer to come and see the car).
    ID fraud is easy to achieve with these simple items - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_theft

    Hadn't thought of identity theft really I guess if he doesn't show up this will be his game otherwise I can't find a reason that he should cut this guy off he could just want the car....

    Anyone here ever sell a car to someone from outside the state? That wasn't known to them prior to the sale.


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    #1267
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Cars can and are sold to people outside of the state but it would be for unusual spec models. Someone doesn't travel from the UK/France/Holland/wherever to buy an over proced, under serviced Almera.


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    #1268
    dumbyearbook
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dumbyearbook


    kbannon wrote: »
    Cars can and are sold to people outside of the state but it would be for unusual spec models. Someone doesn't travel from the UK/France/Holland/wherever to buy an over proced, under serviced Almera.

    LOL it's no almera I posted the price it's €17k and keenly priced at that he has been offered €15k from an Irish buyer.

    Same car is more expensive in Holland so I can see why they would want it even if there was a "vrt" type tax due on arrival there is a big difference so could be worth his while but I'm still weary most of the dodge people you hear about have drafts and western union etc. Or want you to send cash also most here are buyers we are sellers.

    In the words of tony soprano - Whaddya ya gonna do?


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    #1269
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,057 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    kbannon wrote: »
    Cars can and are sold to people outside of the state but it would be for unusual spec models. Someone doesn't travel from the UK/France/Holland/whaever to buy an over proced, under serviced Almera.
    No Almera mentioned, though. Deal may be genuine, and OP should advise his friend to check with his bank about validity of proposed wire transfer.

    Not your ornery onager



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    #1270
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I picked Almera as it could have been any car. The OP didn't mention that this was an unusual car or give reason for it to be considered out of the ordinarry.
    That all doesn't matter anyhow - same rules still apply.


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    #1271
    dumbyearbook
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dumbyearbook


    kbannon wrote: »
    I picked Almera as it could have been any car. The OP didn't mention that this was an unusual car or give reason for it to be considered out of the ordinarry.
    That all doesn't matter anyhow - same rules still apply.

    Clear as mud that one...:confused:


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    #1272
    langdang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭langdang


    I'm weary of the hole lot of it, you're friend could loose his shirt here, what is the mystery machine?


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    #1273
    dumbyearbook
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dumbyearbook


    langdang wrote: »
    I'm weary of the hole lot of it, you're friend could loose his shirt here, what is the mystery machine?

    I'd rather not say.


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    #1274
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    dumbyearbook wrote: »
    I'd rather not say as I like to keep myself sort of anonymous on here ? It's not at all rare though nothing special like.
    ...in which case I'd take it for granted that my point stands. Who would really come from Holland to buy a car that's not rare or special.
    Its a scam and if your friend wants to refuse to listen to reason than all you can do is make a big "I told you so" sign to show them afterwards.


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    #1275
    dumbyearbook
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭dumbyearbook


    kbannon wrote: »
    ...in which case I'd take it for granted that my point stands. Who would really come from Holland to buy a car that's not rare or special.
    Its a scam and if your friend wants to refuse to listen to reason than all you can do is make a big "I told you so" sign to show them afterwards.

    Sold the car locally end of !


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    #1276
    mileycactus
    Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭mileycactus


    Just got an email on my car im trying to sell
    sounds like a scam and im just going to ignore the guy...
    anyone heard of this one?


    Hello,
    Happy to read from you. i am okay with the price,and i will be paying
    you with certified check,There is nothing to worry about the
    shipment.I have a shipping agent that will sign all the papers and
    the transfer
    of ownership certificate at your location on behalf of me when the
    money credited to your account. Any amounts on the issue price is to
    shipping agent for the shipping costs and matriculation expenses
    for the pickup at your location.
    The cheque will be verify and clear befor the shipping
    agent come for it.and i live in uk .
    Here is the information needed to consider fee of the
    cheque: --
    Full Name on the cheque.......
    Home Address..........
    Post code.......
    Country........
    Telephone number.........
    Thank you and hope to read from you the details.


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    #1277
    freighter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭freighter


    HA HA total scam OP.


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    #1278
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    OSI wrote: »
    Didn't even need to finish reading it.

    Scam
    +1

    As blatant a scam as they get!


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    #1279
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I only read the first 4 words.


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    #1280
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,159 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    OP, ask yourself:
    • Firstly, who agrees to buy a car they haven't seen or test drove?
    • Secondly, who agrees to pay the full asking price of a car they haven't seen or test drove first?
    If something appears to be too good to be true then it is.


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    #1281
    lynchie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭lynchie


    mileycactus wrote: »
    Just got an email on my car im trying to sell
    sounds like a scam and im just going to ignore the guy...
    anyone heard of this one?


    Hello,
    Happy to read from you. i am okay with the price,and i will be paying
    you with certified check,There is nothing to worry about the
    shipment.I have a shipping agent that will sign all the papers and
    the transfer
    of ownership certificate at your location on behalf of me when the
    money credited to your account. Any amounts on the issue price is to
    shipping agent for the shipping costs and matriculation expenses
    for the pickup at your location.
    The cheque will be verify and clear befor the shipping
    agent come for it.and i live in uk .
    Here is the information needed to consider fee of the
    cheque: --
    Full Name on the cheque.......
    Home Address..........
    Post code.......
    Country........
    Telephone number.........
    Thank you and hope to read from you the details.

    Why would it be a scam OP? Most people responding to your ad would have awful grammar yet can still use words like matriculation expenses. They always live outside of Ireland and deal with shipping agents. They never have a problem with your offer price and never want to see the vehicle in person.

    Why oh why would it be a scam???

    </sarcasm>


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    #1282
    Alanstrainor
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 23,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Hello,
    Happy to read from you...

    Hahaha scamtastic


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    #1283
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,057 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    That guy is just a baby scammer - there are soooo many signs....

    Not your ornery onager



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    #1284
    chewythefirst
    Registered Users Posts: 559 ✭✭✭chewythefirst


    i am looking to get a full service and new brake pads and disc for my 2003 1.2 polo, every site i go to has given me a price of €358. is this the going rate or is there a reliable garage that anyone knows that i can go to.:D


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    #1285
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,057 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Wrong thread, mate. Start a new thread, make the title informative, and state what part of the country you are in.

    Not your ornery onager



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    #1286
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Esel wrote: »
    Wrong thread, mate. Start a new thread, make the title informative, and state what part of the country you are in.

    LOL they will be asking in personal issues next..:D:D

    Anyway was anyone down here listening to 96FM today. Basically this guy purchased a caravan on behalf of his brother on Donedeal. He rang the number which took him to a answering machine. He then got a text saying this is donedeal please corespond to this address etc. To make a long story short he transferred the money to their bank A/C and got a bit fishy when he got no call. Of course when he made enquiries he found out he was caught.....:o:o


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    #1287
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,057 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    ^ Probably one of the few caravan scam ads that were posted here in the last few weeks.

    Should have gone to Boards!

    Not your ornery onager



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    #1288
    analfabets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭analfabets


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1774772

    and

    http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/26/74418126.html

    Can you explain what will happen if I ring the second guy and arrange a meeting to see the car? Are they going to rob me or something?


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    #1289
    Alanstrainor
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 23,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    analfabets wrote: »
    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1774772

    and

    http://www.gumtree.ie/dublin/26/74418126.html

    Can you explain what will happen if I ring the second guy and arrange a meeting to see the car? Are they going to rob me or something?

    The second ad is gone. What on earth did it say that gave you that idea:eek:


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    #1290
    Eoin
    Registered Users Posts: 21,243 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    It was the same pics, and just a short blurb saying something like "I have a nice car for sale, ring for more details" and an 085 number.


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    #1291
    analfabets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭analfabets


    Eoin wrote: »
    It was the same pics, and just a short blurb saying something like "I have a nice car for sale, ring for more details" and an 085 number.

    Yes. And for 400 euros and in Dublin


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