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MLB: 2012 Season Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭brilliantboy


    The joys of following a west coast team eh?

    There's nothing quite like it. Just when you think your day is all done...yay...a 4+ hour baseball game where your team will fail to hit and lose 1-0 in extra innings.

    Trivia time: The Mariners lead the Majors with 238 runs scored on the road, but are last with 126 runs scored at home :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    The joys of following a west coast team eh?

    A's on at 7:30 tonight :D Hicks hits his first homerun for the win as well.

    Brilliant fielding by Coco Crisp. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23135687&c_id=oak&partnerId=aw-5817089348399236228-1039


  • Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭UCD AFC


    Here we go, White Sox at Fenway Park to finish up a four game set, hopefully the Red Sox win with the return of Pedroia on the back of a great win yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭MoyVilla9


    Went to Yankee stadium on Tuesday night to see CC return. I'm not sure if anyone saw it but he was pretty good for someone off for three weeks, and in that heat (it was HOT). Tickets are very reasonable too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭UCD AFC


    That Red Sox / White Sox series was a great one to watch. Ellsbury, Crawford back in the lineup, Pedroia back for the last game yesterday, Youkilis back at Fenway and Cody Ross absolutely killing it, finishing up with a walk off home run last night :D

    Also was the first time I have ever seen Umpires Interference, and the first time I've seen the infield fly rule actually be enforced


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    With the trade deadline approaching and the usual question of which teams are buyers and which are sellers is doing the rounds on the sports site. Although there's an extra spot this year, is it worth 'going for it' and trading some prospects for what could only be one game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    With the trade deadline approaching and the usual question of which teams are buyers and which are sellers is doing the rounds on the sports site. Although there's an extra spot this year, is it worth 'going for it' and trading some prospects for what could only be one game?
    Teams will go for it as the fans will demand it but I dont think its worth it if your giving up prospect(s) that could be there long after the player signs with someone else. Back in 2010, the Angels were looking for a slugger after Kendry Morales went down and could have had anyone been sold for Mike Trout. They were smart and now they have one of the best players in baseball...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    A's going for the sweep againt the Yankees tonight.

    Tied with the Orioles and the White Sox for the second playoff spot. Just hope nothing retarded happens at the deadline now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Masked Man wrote: »
    A's going for the sweep againt the Yankees tonight.

    Tied with the Orioles and the White Sox for the second playoff spot. Just hope nothing retarded happens at the deadline now.

    Nice article on the As here

    http://mlb.si.com/2012/07/23/oakland-athletics-moneyball-contenders/?sct=mlb_t11_a0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Wow, didn't see that trade coming. I guess he is a FA at the end of the season and the Mariners are in sell mode. They are no longer obliged to bring him back either. Yankees actually start a series there tonight...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Oh well thats just fcuking great...

    The (loser) Mariners trade Ichiro to the Yankees. And what did the mariners get? 2 minor league "prospects".

    Seriously its getting old. Two out of three times I sit down to watch a game they lose and I can take that for a season, maybe two.... but its been ten years and getting really fcuking old.

    And get this the octaganarian japanese owner has never been to a game. And he's just slowly running the team into the ground...

    There should be a law.

    Sorry. I'm even more bitter than I was earlier in the season.

    /RANTOFF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭brilliantboy


    :(

    I don't know what I'm feeling right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭MoyVilla9


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Oh well thats just fcuking great...

    The (loser) Mariners trade Ichiro to the Yankees. And what did the mariners get? 2 minor league "prospects".

    Seriously its getting old. Two out of three times I sit down to watch a game they lose and I can take that for a season, maybe two.... but its been ten years and getting really fcuking old.

    And get this the octaganarian japanese owner has never been to a game. And he's just slowly running the team into the ground...

    There should be a law.

    Sorry. I'm even more bitter than I was earlier in the season.

    /RANTOFF

    The Mariners have lost a 38 year old that is currently batting .260. It's not all that bad.

    As a Yankee fan it's nice to see big name trades, but who knows how much this guy has left in the tank. The interesting trades will come in the off-season when the Yankees have to figure out who to cut so they come under the Luxury-Tax line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    MoyVilla9 wrote: »
    The interesting trades will come in the off-season when the Yankees have to figure out who to cut so they come under the Luxury-Tax line.

    That's going to be great to watch. Extra incentives this year with teams being able to claw back tax they previously paid if they get under and stay under the tax so it'll be interesting to see how the Yankees do it especially as its something they've never had to worry about before. Steinbrenner has said they are definitely going to be under no matter what. He's definitely different to his father then!

    Last night's trade made me laugh. Imagine how weird it must have been for Ichiro. Going to the same ball park he's been going to for years but going into the visitors dressing room instead. I didn't see any of the highlights yet. How did the crowd react when he came to the plate?

    On a separate matter, are the Mets ever going to win a game again....????


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    MoyVilla9 wrote: »
    The Mariners have lost a 38 year old that is currently batting .260. It's not all that bad.

    True he's past his prime certainly. Its what they got for him that's just a little frustrating. Two minor league pitchers??? Ffs...

    The Nintendo management are complete losers, they've been trading away any player with any talent for minor league "prospects" in the hope of "building the team" for almost TEN years now (ichiro excepted), and it aint working too well, but they just keep on doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    On a separate matter, are the Mets ever going to win a game again....????
    Best chance is tonight if Dickey pitches a complete game and gets some run support...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Coeus wrote: »
    On a separate matter, are the Mets ever going to win a game again....????
    Best chance is tonight if Dickey pitches a complete game and gets some run support...

    Unfortunately, like the Mets themselves, Dickey has cooled off considerably in his past few starts and has been average at best. He was never going to go 12-1 or whatever in the second half of the season but I didn't think he'd drop as much as he has the past couple of starts.

    I doubt it has anything to do with it as he seems quite level headed but around the time of the all star game he was appearing on Letterman and being interviewed by the general media and was becoming a bit of a media 'star' and maybe he's lost some of his focus.

    The Mets need to stop this skid so I do hope he turns it back on tonight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭brilliantboy


    MoyVilla9 wrote: »
    The Mariners have lost a 38 year old that is currently batting .260. It's not all that bad.

    As a Yankee fan it's nice to see big name trades, but who knows how much this guy has left in the tank. The interesting trades will come in the off-season when the Yankees have to figure out who to cut so they come under the Luxury-Tax line.

    They've lost a lot more than just any old 38 year old batting .260

    I can understand the baseball logic behind the trade, they want to get something back for him given that his contract is up at the end of the season and he'll be too old/expensive to re-sign.

    But it's Ichiro...
    What he's brings back in merchandising, seat sales, what he means to the teams history, fan morale etc. is all worth a lot more than the two nobodies (a little harsh but not far from the truth) he brought back. Is it really that hard to just keep him around for another two months?

    It's not like he was taking playing time away from some budding superstar. Even with his un-Ichiro like stat line in the past two years, he's still been one of the Mariners better players, and that's not to mention his defence.

    I can understand it, but I don't agree with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭brilliantboy


    Last night's trade made me laugh. Imagine how weird it must have been for Ichiro. Going to the same ball park he's been going to for years but going into the visitors dressing room instead. I didn't see any of the highlights yet. How did the crowd react when he came to the plate?

    Classy :cool:
    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23295039&topic_id=8877494&c_id=mlb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    They've lost a lot more than just any old 38 year old batting .260

    I can understand the baseball logic behind the trade, they want to get something back for him given that his contract is up at the end of the season and he'll be too old/expensive to re-sign.

    But it's Ichiro...
    What he's brings back in merchandising, seat sales, what he means to the teams history, fan morale etc. is all worth a lot more than the two nobodies (a little harsh but not far from the truth) he brought back. Is it really that hard to just keep him around for another two months?

    It's not like he was taking playing time away from some budding superstar. Even with his un-Ichiro like stat line in the past two years, he's still been one of the Mariners better players, and that's not to mention his defence.

    I can understand it, but I don't agree with it.
    Yea, I don get it either, he is he face of he franchise hence my surprise. Apparently he asked for the trade to in his words help the Mariners build for the future. If thats the case surely the Mariners management could have created a market for him and got some better prospects in return :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1



    Yes, a very classy reaction

    The Mariners seem good fans

    When Philip Humber threw a perfect game for the White Sox earlier this season he was applauded off the field by the Seattle fans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Looks like Hanley's off to LA.

    The Marlins back to their usual selves and breaking up teams although I didn't expect it to happen just 4 months into this new era.

    It could be back to playing baseball in empty stadiums for Miami if this fire sale continues


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    New lease of life for him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Looks like Hanley's off to LA.

    The Marlins back to their usual selves and breaking up teams although I didn't expect it to happen just 4 months into this new era.

    It could be back to playing baseball in empty stadiums for Miami if this fire sale continues
    Firesale indeed if they are fielding offers for JJ. They want to get rid of Heath Bell aswell but they would have to eat most of that contract. He is far from the pitcher he was and that was before the Marlins signed him...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Coeus wrote: »
    Firesale indeed if they are fielding offers for JJ. They want to get rid of Heath Bell aswell but they would have to eat most of that contract. He is far from the pitcher he was and that was before the Marlins signed him...

    Adams, Qualls, and Gregorson were all better RP last year then Bell!

    But he was in position.

    Huston Street has looked quality for SD this year.

    Talk of JJ and Boston. Will it happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭TAlderson



    Talk of JJ and Boston. Will it happen?

    I hope not. As a born-and-raised Sox fan I'm actually hoping they gut the team and start anew next year. If they think they can contend playing the way they are now, I want what they're smoking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    AL West just got a bit more interesting with the Angels getting Greinke. How will the Rangers react? Josh Johnson maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    AL West just got a bit more interesting with the Angels getting Greinke. How will the Rangers react? Josh Johnson maybe?
    Just seen this myself. Angels have a serious rotation now and it will be even better if they can get Haren back pitching to standard we expect of him. Rangers have to make a move but JJ wont come cheap...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Just watching the Yankees - Red Sox game here with Yankees commentry and they just mentioned a rumoured trade of bad contracts between the Red Sox and Marlins. Crawford for Reyes :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Deadline for non waiver trades this evening. It'll be interesting to see what gets done. There always seems to be one that comes out of nowhere and surprises everyone.

    The Cubs look like they're doing a clean out. Malholm gone to the Braves, Soto and Dempster probably next


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    The Cubs look like they're doing a clean out. Malholm gone to the Braves, Soto and Dempster probably next

    Struggling to see what the Cubs have added, other than maybe some cash and lower wage bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Deadline for non waiver trades this evening. It'll be interesting to see what gets done. There always seems to be one that comes out of nowhere and surprises everyone.
    Yea, the rumour mill is swirling around the Dbacks putting together a blockbuster deal to get a premier SP.

    The Blue Jays might be looking for a preimer outfielder aswell after clearing out the depth they had at the position yesterday.

    There should be plenty of other buyers among the contenders...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    Victorino gone to the flush, Dodgers.
    And seemingly talks are still going on between Phillies and Giants for Pence despite that trade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Victorino gone to the flush, Dodgers.
    And seemingly talks are still going on between Phillies and Giants for Pence despite that trade.
    Twitter is saying the Pence deal is now done. Phillies are in full-scale fire sale mode. I wonder will Cliff Lee be still in a Phillies uniform after the deadline...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Apart from the Phillies trades, not much else going on. Although the Dempster to the Yankees rumours are going around. 70 minutes or so to go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    Although the Dempster to the Yankees rumours are going around. 70 minutes or so to go!
    The Rangers have gazumped the Yankees and landed Dempster. I see the Cubs havn't traded Garza...yet...unless Theo got his deadline extension, I read somewhere he was looking for one...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    All a bit quiet wasn't it? Interesting thing posted on twitter is that the Marlins have traded their opening day 1st, 2nd and 3rd basemen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    All a bit quiet wasn't it? Interesting thing posted on twitter is that the Marlins have traded their opening day 1st, 2nd and 3rd basemen

    Jack can you please explain to me what the Marlins are at?

    They put together a decent team and ok in fairness it hasnt worked so far but they just opened the new ball park.. why not give it time?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Baltimore looking to sweep the Yankees tonight

    Reading the forums it seems most fans would be delighted to just get a .500 season

    At first I thought this seemed low expectations but then I suppose the fans are long suffering and depressed

    Doing well this year though

    Camden Yards looks a beautiful ball park, would love to visit some day


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭BigFatGiant


    Giants and Dodgers starting there newly acquired Pence and Victorino last night. Giants managed to score 1 run and LA didn't score at all.

    I really do enjoy watching the Giants pitching but the offense, although better than last year, is still painful viewing.

    Dbacks looking really good for NL west right now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Not MLB but we'll put it in anyway

    Minor League Daytona, the PA announcer played Three Blind Mice

    Umpire was not pleased and ejected him and shut down the sound system for the night



    http://www.news-journalonline.com/sports/baseball/daytona-cubs/2012/08/02/cubs-win-4th-straight.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    Coco Crisp gave the A's their 13th walk off win.

    reddick-spidey.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    I've been to 16 MLB games and 1 minor league game in my time yet never caught a ball. I even went in to batting practice a couple of times and still nothing (thought it would be a bid sad looking if an adult starting knocking kids out of the way to get a ball).

    Then this guy comes along

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afo7jxw7I3g
    Another guy "catches" 2 home runs in a game.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23790939&topic_id=8879234&c_id=bal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Right, now that we've got the Olympics out of the way, it's time to get back focused on baseball.

    A couple of tight divisional races going on in the AL Central and NL West. However I'm really looking forward to seeing how the NL East works out with the Braves only 4.5 games out and Strasburg due to sit down at some stage.

    it's definitely going to happen but can you imagine why it's going to be like if they're only a game or two up with 2 weeks to go! The consolation of the WC isn't much either as a 1 game play off is basically a coin toss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    NL West just got a bit more interesting - Melky Cabrera suspended for 50 games for PEDs. Maybe they'll bring back Barry Bonds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Coeus


    NL West just got a bit more interesting - Melky Cabrera suspended for 50 games for PEDs. Maybe they'll bring back Barry Bonds?
    That would explain his sudden career year last season, and form continuing into this season. Looks like he hasn't been to weasel out of his punishment like Braun...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Coeus wrote: »
    That would explain his sudden career year last season, and form continuing into this season. Looks like he hasn't been to weasel out of his punishment like Braun...

    Maybe he can copy this one's excuse

    http://inrng.tumblr.com/post/29472905178/itsrainingepo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭BigFatGiant


    Absolutely disgusted with Melky. I don't think 50 games is enough of a deterrent. It should be 2 full seasons minimum. Lincecum will probably have a stinker now to add the cherry on top!


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