Nokia Lumia 800

vicM · 13-03-2012 9:09pm

Getting over the learning curve with WP7, today herself and I couldn't figure out how to save a number when someone had sent you a text and you didn't have thier number..:-)

I have to say what a nice keyboard!

micko2009 · 14-03-2012 12:42am

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

http://m.pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-lumia-800-12070-update-reaches-the-uk

The new update is near

Wonder when it will hit Europe... Still waiting on Zune.

Would be nice to get the bulk of the issues sorted after 3 1/2 months of ownership, way too long imo...

TBi · 14-03-2012 10:25am

vicM wrote: »

today herself and I couldn't figure out how to save a number when someone had sent you a text and you didn't have thier number..:-)

Did you figure it out? Tap the number on top of the message and then click the little 'floppy disk' icon at the bottom to save.

chrislad · 14-03-2012 10:36am

I love how the floppy disk is still the universal logo for 'Save'. All 1.44 MB of it.

Fran1985 · 14-03-2012 12:58pm

Got this phone on Monday and i have to say, i'm really enjoying it. Got it in white, but they give you a black rubber cover so makes no odds what colour it is. I'm using the rubber cover, because i opened the box upside down in the excitement of it all and dropped the phone straight on the floor so thought to myself, its a sign. I find it very easy to use too, very quick learning curve of getting your head around it.

The Maps function seems weird tho, it couldn't find exchequer street in Dublin yesterday (mind you neither could i) and it kept sending me to somewhere in wrexham, England. It may need an update or something.
Spent a good bit of time on email, FB, Twitter and about 60 minutes or so of phone calls yesterday and by 10 pm it was crying out for a charge, that despite it being on charge all day and night the day before. That's a bit worrying. Haven't used it as much today, so maybe it was just because i was playing with it so much yesterday. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for another couple of days, until the novelty wears off.
App store is a bit bare too, but again, as someone pointed out, its probably at the same level apple where at this stage of their development.
Only other issue i have is with Zune. you pretty much need the latest version of windows to use it, which is a bit daft, but i've windows 7 on the laptop at home so when i get a few minutes i'll install there.

Aside from that, its a looker of a phone, and very easy to use, very quick surfing the web and very easy to send messages. I'm going with a 9 outta 10 on this one

chrislad · 14-03-2012 1:02pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

Got this phone on Monday and i have to say, i'm really enjoying it. Got it in white, but they give you a black rubber cover so makes no odds what colour it is. I'm using the rubber cover, because i opened the box upside down in the excitement of it all and dropped the phone straight on the floor so thought to myself, its a sign. I find it very easy to use too, very quick learning curve of getting your head around it.

The Maps function seems weird tho, it couldn't find exchequer street in Dublin yesterday (mind you neither could i) and it kept sending me to somewhere in wrexham, England. It may need an update or something.
Spent a good bit of time on email, FB, Twitter and about 60 minutes or so of phone calls yesterday and by 10 pm it was crying out for a charge, that despite it being on charge all day and night the day before. That's a bit worrying. Haven't used it as much today, so maybe it was just because i was playing with it so much yesterday. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for another couple of days, until the novelty wears off.
App store is a bit bare too, but again, as someone pointed out, its probably at the same level apple where at this stage of their development.
Only other issue i have is with Zune. you pretty much need the latest version of windows to use it, which is a bit daft, but i've windows 7 on the laptop at home so when i get a few minutes i'll install there.

Aside from that, its a looker of a phone, and very easy to use, very quick surfing the web and very easy to send messages. I'm going with a 9 outta 10 on this one

Try downloading Nokia Maps (not the same as Nokia Drive). Might be a bit better. I've not tried it but found Bing Maps to be fairly crap.

Fran1985 · 14-03-2012 1:04pm

chrislad wrote: »

Try downloading Nokia Maps (not the same as Nokia Drive). Might be a bit better. I've not tried it but found Bing Maps to be fairly crap.

Is it Nokia or bing maps that comes with it? I was using the one that they give you (not the nokia drive one) and it just wasn't helping me out at all. So gave up and then realised i knew where the place was all along

chrislad · 14-03-2012 1:10pm

Bing Maps is the one on it. Go to the Market, and you'll see Nokia Collection. It's in there.

vicM · 14-03-2012 1:20pm

TBi wrote: »

Did you figure it out? Tap the number on top of the message and then click the little 'floppy disk' icon at the bottom to save.

Yes TBi, we did figure it, still when you do that you get the 'unknown number' at the top instead of directly giving you input slots, im sure there is a reason for that though

evolutionqy7 · 14-03-2012 2:06pm

Well Nokia maps are going to be integrated into Bing maps eventually. So for now use gmaps from the marketplace or Nokia maps which I use on my titan and it works quite well

Bing maps at the moment are crap for search. If you have your region set to Ireland you won't even see the search function cause Bing maps support for Ireland is rubbish. Bing support for Ireland is quite rubbish even though the search is just as good as google.Wish he had the support UK does. Local scout is awesome, just not supported on this side of the pond.

AntiVirus · 14-03-2012 3:18pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

Is it Nokia or bing maps that comes with it? I was using the one that they give you (not the nokia drive one) and it just wasn't helping me out at all. So gave up and then realised i knew where the place was all along

Nokia Maps should already be on your phone in your App list. I removed the bing maps tile from my start screen and replaced it with Nokia Maps which is a lot better.

seadnamac · 14-03-2012 4:35pm

The Calendar tile seems to display what you have in your agenda for tomorrow and not today. Does anyone know if you can change it to display what your supposed to be doing today?

evolutionqy7 · 14-03-2012 4:45pm

seadnamac wrote: »

The Calendar tile seems to display what you have in your agenda for tomorrow and not today. Does anyone know if you can change it to display what your supposed to be doing today?

It should display the current event or if there is none, the next event.

As far as im aware that's the way it should be on all phones, no options to change this

seadnamac · 14-03-2012 4:52pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

It should display the current event or if there is none, the next event.

As far as im aware that's the way it should be on all phones, no options to change this

I've got something in my agenda for both today and tomorrow but it's showing me tomorrows one on the tile and has since midnight. Strange.

Neffa2 · 14-03-2012 6:38pm

Hi,

Is Nokia Music on the standard Irish Lumias? Mine came from outside Ireland, it doesn't have it.....

Thanks

chrislad · 14-03-2012 6:46pm

Neffa2 wrote: »

Hi,

Is Nokia Music on the standard Irish Lumias? Mine came from outside Ireland, it doesn't have it.....

Thanks

Don't have it. Not on the market either.

Corruptedmorals · 14-03-2012 9:06pm

Fran1985 wrote: »

Got this phone on Monday and i have to say, i'm really enjoying it. Got it in white, but they give you a black rubber cover so makes no odds what colour it is. I'm using the rubber cover, because i opened the box upside down in the excitement of it all and dropped the phone straight on the floor so thought to myself, its a sign. I find it very easy to use too, very quick learning curve of getting your head around it.

The Maps function seems weird tho, it couldn't find exchequer street in Dublin yesterday (mind you neither could i) and it kept sending me to somewhere in wrexham, England. It may need an update or something.
Spent a good bit of time on email, FB, Twitter and about 60 minutes or so of phone calls yesterday and by 10 pm it was crying out for a charge, that despite it being on charge all day and night the day before. That's a bit worrying. Haven't used it as much today, so maybe it was just because i was playing with it so much yesterday. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for another couple of days, until the novelty wears off.
App store is a bit bare too, but again, as someone pointed out, its probably at the same level apple where at this stage of their development.
Only other issue i have is with Zune. you pretty much need the latest version of windows to use it, which is a bit daft, but i've windows 7 on the laptop at home so when i get a few minutes i'll install there.

Aside from that, its a looker of a phone, and very easy to use, very quick surfing the web and very easy to send messages. I'm going with a 9 outta 10 on this one

I am using Zune on Vista on a low-range laptop, no issues with it at all so the OS might not be the reason.

The battery issue will be fixed on an upcoming update which is in some parts of the world already. Apparently it trebles the battery life and also adds more bass to the speakers.

AntiVirus · 14-03-2012 9:19pm

Neffa2 wrote: »

Hi,

Is Nokia Music on the standard Irish Lumias? Mine came from outside Ireland, it doesn't have it.....

Thanks

Yes it is. This is a common problem when purchasing a phone from a different market where Nokia music is not allowed.

Simple to fix, flash on an Irish Lumia firmware

DjFlin · 14-03-2012 10:06pm

I forced the latest update two days ago.
My battery is amazing now. At 7.30am today it said I had 1 Day 22 Hours left. So I turned on 3G/Data/Wifi, Battery saver off. About 2.5 hours of music, the latest episode of Walking Dead (About 50 minutes) and about an hour of gaming (Plants Vs Zombies owns my brain), 30 minutes of calls, a few dozen texts and plenty of browsing.
After all this I'm getting "17 Hours" left.

chrislad · 14-03-2012 10:37pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

Yes it is. This is a common problem when purchasing a phone from a different market where Nokia music is not allowed.

Simple to fix, flash on an Irish Lumia firmware

I have the Meteor firmware, and I don't have Nokia Music. Granted, I didn't do a full market search, which I will do, but it's not in the Nokia section of the market for me.

Edit: Nope, no sign of it.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 3:52am

chrislad wrote: »

AntiVirus wrote: »

Yes it is. This is a common problem when purchasing a phone from a different market where Nokia music is not allowed.

Simple to fix, flash on an Irish Lumia firmware

I have the Meteor firmware, and I don't have Nokia Music. Granted, I didn't do a full market search, which I will do, but it's not in the Nokia section of the market for me.

Edit: Nope, no sign of it.

I've never had an Irish firmware installed on my Lumia, just a German one which had the Nokia music installed and the new Indian one which doesn't have the Nokia music pre installed. I had to side load it on.

Try a UK firmware or German one but it would be interesting to know if everyone else on an Irish firmware is having this problem?

Neffa2 · 15-03-2012 12:41pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

Yes it is. This is a common problem when purchasing a phone from a different market where Nokia music is not allowed.

Simple to fix, flash on an Irish Lumia firmware

How do you do this? Hard reset the phone?

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 1:34pm

Neffa2 wrote: »

How do you do this? Hard reset the phone?

First try searching the market place for Nokia Corporation, if it's not listed try a hard reset and see if it appears in your app list. If not then you'll have to flash on a firmware that has it pre-installed. To do that you'll need to download a couple of programs.

NaviFirmEx:
http://code.google.com/p/navifirmex/downloads/detail?name=NaviFirmEx_v1_6_1_en.zip&can=2&q=

This will allow you to download any of the firmware versions. I'd go for one of the 11501 firmwares - Country Varient either UK or Germany, they'll have the Nokia Music pre installed. You will also need Nokia Care Suite to install the firmware.

Nokia Care Suite 5:
http://www.seidea.com/2011/12/03/nokia-care-suite-5-0-2011-48-3-62879/

And here's a video tut to show you how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8KbZcTJFIs

chrislad · 15-03-2012 1:36pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

chrislad wrote: »

AntiVirus wrote: »

Yes it is. This is a common problem when purchasing a phone from a different market where Nokia music is not allowed.

Simple to fix, flash on an Irish Lumia firmware

I have the Meteor firmware, and I don't have Nokia Music. Granted, I didn't do a full market search, which I will do, but it's not in the Nokia section of the market for me.

Edit: Nope, no sign of it.

I've never had an Irish firmware installed on my Lumia, just a German one which had the Nokia music installed and the new Indian one which doesn't have the Nokia music pre installed. I had to side load it on.

Try a UK firmware or German one but it would be interesting to know if everyone else on an Irish firmware is having this problem?

Seems its coming with a firmware upgrade in the next two weeks.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 3:34pm

chrislad wrote: »

Seems its coming with a firmware upgrade in the next two weeks.

The firmware is already out a couple of weeks in other markets, a couple of us have it already installed.

The problem is if the current Irish firmware doesn't have Nokia Music included, the next firmware update unfortunatly won't have it included either.

chrislad · 15-03-2012 4:11pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

The firmware is already out a couple of weeks in other markets, a couple of us have it already installed.

The problem is if the current Irish firmware doesn't have Nokia Music included, the next firmware update unfortunatly won't have it included either.

According to Nokia, it will.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 4:37pm

chrislad wrote: »

According to Nokia, it will.

Any links to this?

chrislad · 15-03-2012 4:41pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

Any links to this?

It's not a link. I work in the industry and I asked the Nokia rep that I know. She said it's coming with the Meteor update in the next two weeks.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 4:52pm

chrislad wrote: »

It's not a link. I work in the industry and I asked the Nokia rep that I know. She said it's coming with the Meteor update in the next two weeks.

Very odd? I wondering if its just Meteor that doesn't have Nokia Music. You should ask her why its not in the market place for download?

PhantomShrimp · 15-03-2012 4:52pm

Had my Lumia for 6 days! Full charge with low brightness, data connection turned off and one live tile, was expected to last 20 hours. Rang Nokia and a Lumia specialist made me run the diagnostic test. The expectancy was only 1335 mAh when it was supposed to be over the 1400 mark. She then told me that the phone had the latest update but the networks software over rode it somehow.

Took it back to network provider, they had it for 12 days and it came back with no error report.

Long story short, I now have an iPhone 4s. The Lumia was the only phone I wanted for a while. I loved it when I had it but could not live with the battery life and how I was treated in the store turned me off the network and the phone.

I hope anyone who has it enjoys it and I hope the battery problems are sorted soon. It is a cracking piece of kit and only good things can come from Nokia down the line.

PS

Mine was black and it was gorgeous.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 5:01pm

PhantomShrimp wrote: »

Had my Lumia for 6 days! Full charge with low brightness, data connection turned off and one live tile, was expected to last 20 hours. Rang Nokia and a Lumia specialist made me run the diagnostic test. The expectancy was only 1335 mAh when it was supposed to be over the 1400 mark. She then told me that the phone had the latest update but the networks software over rode it somehow.

Took it back to network provider, they had it for 12 days and it came back with no error report.

Long story short, I now have an iPhone 4s. The Lumia was the only phone I wanted for a while. I loved it when I had it but could not live with the battery life and how I was treated in the store turned me off the network and the phone.

I hope anyone who has it enjoys it and I hope the battery problems are sorted soon. It is a cracking piece of kit and only good things can come from Nokia down the line.

PS

Mine was black and it was gorgeous.

Thats a pitty. The lastest firmware has a big improvement on the battery life and sound quality. Good luck with the iPhone 4s

chrislad · 15-03-2012 5:01pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

Very odd? I wondering if its just Meteor that doesn't have Nokia Music. You should ask her why its not in the market place for download?

She said it was down to the marketplace region or something. I didn't really push into it, she just said that some people with different regions can see it but would be available to everyone in the next fortnight.

PaulieC · 15-03-2012 5:09pm

PhantomShrimp wrote: »

how I was treated in the store turned me off the network and the phone.

That's a bit precious isn't it ?

PhantomShrimp · 15-03-2012 5:25pm

cambo_gueno wrote: »

That's a bit precious isn't it ?

In this day and age I just don't understand why tech can't do what it's supposed to.

vicM · 15-03-2012 5:26pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

chrislad wrote: »

AntiVirus wrote: »

Yes it is. This is a common problem when purchasing a phone from a different market where Nokia music is not allowed.

Simple to fix, flash on an Irish Lumia firmware

I have the Meteor firmware, and I don't have Nokia Music. Granted, I didn't do a full market search, which I will do, but it's not in the Nokia section of the market for me.

Edit: Nope, no sign of it.

I've never had an Irish firmware installed on my Lumia, just a German one which had the Nokia music installed and the new Indian one which doesn't have the Nokia music pre installed. I had to side load it on.

Try a UK firmware or German one but it would be interesting to know if everyone else on an Irish firmware is having this problem?

AV, any particular reason why the Indian ROM if you don't mind my asking

TBi · 15-03-2012 5:41pm

vicM wrote: »

AV, any particular reason why the Indian ROM if you don't mind my asking

It was the first ROM out with the audio/battery fix.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 5:49pm

vicM wrote: »

AV, any particular reason why the Indian ROM if you don't mind my asking

No problem, at the moment there's only 5 version's of the latest firmware available to download but this should change over the next couple of weeks as more get released.

Of the 5 firmwares available the Indian one is the only one that is unbranded, they have 3, one for Black, Cyan and Magenta. The other 2 are for Vodafone New Zealand. You can install these but you're phone will become Vodafone branded and you will have a Vodafone boot up screen before the Nokia screen.

The problem with the Indian firmware is that it doesn't have the Nokia Music loaded so you have to side load it and they only way to do that on the Nokia is if you have a developer unlocked phone. Other than that its the same standard firmware.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 5:50pm

TBi wrote: »

It was the first ROM out with the audio/battery fix.

and that!

Have to say I love the audio fix, the music sounds excellent now

kaizersoze · 15-03-2012 6:00pm

I have an iPhone4 for a year and a half and looking to change. Seriously considering the Lumia. Had a quick play with one today. Beautiful phone but I found myself inadvertently clicking on the home screen tiles and other shortcuts when scrolling. Anyone else find it a bit sensitive?
How easy are they unlocked btw?

DjFlin · 15-03-2012 6:01pm

My Vodafone Lumia has Nokia Music on it.
I don't see what the fuss is, its not all that wonderful.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 6:08pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

I have an iPhone4 for a year and a half and looking to change. Seriously considering the Lumia. Had a quick play with one today. Beautiful phone but I found myself inadvertently clicking on the home screen tiles and other shortcuts when scrolling. Anyone else find it a bit sensitive?
How easy are they unlocked btw?

You get used to the sensitivity very quickly, its just that your used to a different phone at the moment.

You can only unlock the Lumia by purchasing a developer license which would cost you $99 dollars. You used to be able to unlock it for $9 dollars using chevron labs official unlock. They don't have any more keys for sale at the moment.

Chevron where the first to unlock the Windows Phone but microsoft called them for a meeting and asked them to make an official one as their one was bricking some phones.

http://labs.chevronwp7.com

There's some developers/hackers working on getting an unlock for the second gen Windows Phones eg Lumia at the moment.

AntiVirus · 15-03-2012 6:10pm

DjFlin wrote: »

My Vodafone Lumia has Nokia Music on it.
I don't see what the fuss is, its not all that wonderful.

As I thought, looks like it was just the Meteor firmware that was missing the app but as Chris has said, nokia have confirmed it will be in the next release.

user1842 · 15-03-2012 7:06pm

Netherlands firmware now out, Italy too I think: 1600.2487.8107.12070

evolutionqy7 · 15-03-2012 10:52pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

I have an iPhone4 for a year and a half and looking to change. Seriously considering the Lumia. Had a quick play with one today. Beautiful phone but I found myself inadvertently clicking on the home screen tiles and other shortcuts when scrolling. Anyone else find it a bit sensitive?
How easy are they unlocked btw?

Their gonna be that sensitive on any phone with capacitive buttons. You get used to it.

In the start I used to accidentally press them a lot. Barely ever do now. They also updated the firmware to make sure if you swipe from the screen downwards and hit the buttons it doesn't count. So that saves a couple of presses too.

user1842 · 19-03-2012 7:15pm

Vodafone update for Ireland now out.

Will update via Zune now

kaizersoze · 19-03-2012 7:26pm

Got one of these Friday and it's not going too well.

The biggest pita is email. I have multiple accounts setup and working...sort of.
I need to add multiple servers to each account so I can send/receive when connected to various networks but can't find the option in settings to add more than 1. Could do it on the iPhone no problem.

Any solution of am I missing something obvious?
There's a few other annoyances as well, like GPS, recent contacts, menu layouts, lack of flash support in the IE browser, etc, but the email is the bigest problem.
Ta

AntiVirus · 19-03-2012 8:47pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

Got one of these Friday and it's not going too well.

The biggest pita is email. I have multiple accounts setup and working...sort of.
I need to add multiple servers to each account so I can send/receive when connected to various networks but can't find the option in settings to add more than 1. Could do it on the iPhone no problem.

Any solution of am I missing something obvious?
There's a few other annoyances as well, like GPS, recent contacts, menu layouts, lack of flash support in the IE browser, etc, but the email is the bigest problem.
Ta

Try adding your email accounts using the Advanced option.

evolutionqy7 · 19-03-2012 8:50pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

Got one of these Friday and it's not going too well.

The biggest pita is email. I have multiple accounts setup and working...sort of.
I need to add multiple servers to each account so I can send/receive when connected to various networks but can't find the option in settings to add more than 1. Could do it on the iPhone no problem.

Any solution of am I missing something obvious?
There's a few other annoyances as well, like GPS, recent contacts, menu layouts, lack of flash support in the IE browser, etc, but the email is the bigest problem.
Ta

You didn't research the phone before getting it because? There's nothing wrong with GPS, recent contacts exist too and if you don't like the UI well windows phone isn't for you.

I Mean every part of windows phone is documented in videos online. Flash on phones is dying as ICS Is the last one to support it.

kaizersoze · 20-03-2012 1:32am

AntiVirus wrote: »

Try adding your email accounts using the Advanced option.

Tried that. No joy. Ta

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

You didn't research the phone before getting it because? There's nothing wrong with GPS, recent contacts exist too and if you don't like the UI well windows phone isn't for you.

I Mean every part of windows phone is documented in videos online. Flash on phones is dying as ICS Is the last one to support it.

Another keyboard warrior.
Thanks for you well thought out and useful reply.:rolleyes:
I did plenty of research thanks. Please point me to a discussion or article somewhere online about not being able to add multiple servers. I'd be grateful.
Maybe it's just not the highend business phone it's made out to be.

The GPS seems to work ok for location services but it's poor or useless for one particular app I use often on the iPhone and it works perfect. I checked the app before getting the phone and it was available for WP7. It doesnt work as it should. It takes about 4 minutes to pick up and lock onto satellites (9 seconds on the iPhone) and unless the phone is held in hand at all times it loses lock. Could be app related but either way it doesn't work.

I know recent contacts exist. Thats the problem :P
I thought I'd avoid it by not adding a facebook account to the phone but not so. I don't want contacts I text showing in the list and the list can't be cleared.
I actually like the metro UI but the endless scrolling if you install alot of apps is a bit of a pain. These are things that no amount of research would highlight. Daily use does though. I didn't give the flash support much thought really but probably assumed IE9 would support it.
Having said all that it's a fantastic device to use and hold, looks well, great camera and screen size and quality is spot on. I'll probably keep it if I can get the email sorted.

AntiVirus · 20-03-2012 1:56am

kaizersoze wrote: »

Tried that. No joy. Ta

Could you explain how you do this on the iPhone?

Nokia Lumia 800

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