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    #4562
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    PAULWATSON wrote: »
    Just interested, what sort of welcome does a GAA lovin', cuts the turf type of fella get in Garnerville?

    I would assume you would be warmly welcomed unless you insist on playing GAA during classroom studies lol.


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    #4563
    wanadrum
    Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭wanadrum


    I don't really know as I have not had the chance to go to GV, but I assume it would be the same welcome as anyone else........


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    #4564
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Small query once again for anybody who might know about it...

    Was talking to a police officer tonight and I mentioned that I had been applying to no avail for the past few years and that I was now really thinking about trying my luck over the water with the CNC or the CSP or whatever I can really in the meantime. He said that if I was thinking of going about it that way (getting in elsewhere in the hope that they might open up transferring from another force again when 50/50 eventually does go, or to just get in somewhere fullstop!) that I should only be looking at the Met and the AGS as they are the only 2 that you can transfer directly to the PSNI from.
    Now I'm presuming he's thinking non 50/50 times as it's not possible to transfer from another force at all while 50/50 is in place, but was that ever the case pre 50/50 that those were the only 2 you could transfer from??


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    #4565
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,683 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    You can't transfer from the PSNI into AGS. You have to start all over again. You can do a secondment alright, but not permanently.


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    #4566
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    psni wrote: »
    You can't transfer from the PSNI into AGS. You have to start all over again. You can do a secondment alright, but not permanently.

    Take it it's the same both ways then? He did mention they had an AGS fella working with them at the minute so maybe that's what he was meaning...
    Any idea if it's correct about transfering from any other forces? I've been googling the bit out but any sort of info on this seems while hard to come by!


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    #4567
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,683 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    You can't. There's no agreement in place for transfers in either direction. No matter which way you transfer, you start from scratch.


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    #4568
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Take it it's the same both ways then? He did mention they had an AGS fella working with them at the minute so maybe that's what he was meaning...
    Any idea if it's correct about transfering from any other forces? I've been googling the bit out but any sort of info on this seems while hard to come by!

    As far as I know you can only transfer between forces in England and Wales, and possibly Strathclyde. Don't think you can transfer from S, E&W to NI.


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    #4569
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Pah! Damn PSNI and its impenetrableness :rolleyes:


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    #4570
    lauralush04
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭lauralush04


    Anyone got a pass last year July and still no sign of vetting forms etc???


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    #4571
    Gee-22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Gee-22


    lauralush04 wrote: »
    Anyone got a pass last year July and still no sign of vetting forms etc???

    Did you get a wait until March letter?


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    #4572
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    lauralush04 wrote: »
    Anyone got a pass last year July and still no sign of vetting forms etc???

    Did my AC in may pass letter ( from deloitte) 2 days later still no vetting forms for me either your not alone chick


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    #4573
    lauralush04
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭lauralush04


    weepete wrote: »
    Did my AC in may pass letter ( from deloitte) 2 days later still no vetting forms for me either your not alone chick


    i sent them a wee email there so just waiting to see if they respond!!! at least we dont have a dear John letter so we are still in the game :)


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    #4574
    lauralush04
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭lauralush04


    Gee-22 wrote: »
    Did you get a wait until March letter?

    i got a letter in November saying sorry they could not let me know what was happening and saying about the 50/50 thing and thanks for my patience, but that was it!!! nothing since!!!


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    #4575
    Gee-22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Gee-22


    lauralush04 wrote: »
    i got a letter in November saying sorry they could not let me know what was happening and saying about the 50/50 thing and thanks for my patience, but that was it!!! nothing since!!!

    That sounds like the "wait till March" letter.

    People who recieved it have not been given vetting forms etc.

    They are are waiting on official word in relation to future recruitment (50/50, budgets etc), which should become clearer over the next 3 weeks or so.


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    #4576
    lauralush04
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭lauralush04


    Gee-22 wrote: »
    That sounds like the "wait till March" letter.

    People who recieved it have not been given vetting forms etc.

    They are are waiting on official word in relation to future recruitment (50/50, budgets etc), which should become clearer over the next 3 weeks or so.


    ok thanks for the info!!! at least i know im still in there :)


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    #4577
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    lauralush04 wrote: »
    ok thanks for the info!!! at least i know im still in there :)

    Just out of interest what was your AC score if you know off hand?


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    #4578
    ElizaB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭ElizaB


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Take it it's the same both ways then? He did mention they had an AGS fella working with them at the minute so maybe that's what he was meaning...
    Any idea if it's correct about transfering from any other forces? I've been googling the bit out but any sort of info on this seems while hard to come by!

    When recruitment is open it is possible to apply to transfer from any UK service. Transferees start at week 1 in G'ville and complete shorter training, then take the exams and pass out with the squad graduating at that time. They then go on to do the same ODP training as the squad they pass out with (ie a further 10 weeks training following attestation).


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    #4579
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    ElizaB wrote: »
    When recruitment is open it is possible to apply to transfer from any UK service. Transferees start at week 1 in G'ville and complete shorter training, then take the exams and pass out with the squad graduating at that time. They then go on to do the same ODP training as the squad they pass out with (ie a further 10 weeks training following attestation).

    Aye i remember seeing something about being able to transfer from another force when i applied but i think the applicant still has to jump through the same hoops as us i.e. IST, AC, vetting and medical, they just have a shorter training program as you have outlined above. Whereas in the mainland you don't need to retrain if you move forces, but i guess our SOP's (standard operating procedures) differ alot from mainland forces i.e. Firearms, riot training and anti terror tactics. So in short they dont "transfer" as such just have a better chance of passing training as they should know most of the stuff required.


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    #4580
    gigity gigity
    Registered Users Posts: 450 ✭✭gigity gigity


    Any thoughts on there being a 2012 campaign? If I knew there would recruitment then a year wait to get the ball rolling again wouldnt be so bad!


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    #4581
    Gee-22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Gee-22


    http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/local/warning_over_loss_of_police_reserve_1_2555673

    As of today the PSNI has 270 less officers.


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    #4582
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    Gee-22 wrote: »
    http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/local/warning_over_loss_of_police_reserve_1_2555673

    As of today the PSNI has 270 less officers.

    I know a few people who could fill that void


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    #4583
    Dietcoke1
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Dietcoke1


    Gee-22 wrote: »
    http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/local/warning_over_loss_of_police_reserve_1_2555673

    As of today the PSNI has 270 less officers.

    No great loss!


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    #4584
    Gee-22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Gee-22


    Dietcoke1 wrote: »
    No great loss!

    In your opinion...


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    #4585
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    Dietcoke1 wrote: »
    No great loss!

    How can you say that? These officers were trained to deal with terrorists, something which is still affecting NI's police officers today, the new recruits in Garnerville have not got that experience of working in a society which terrorists can move about in without detection. Look what happened a few months ago, three officers standing in a group were almost all killed by a terrorist on a bicycle. I have seen it where I lived, officers not wearing body armour standing in groups of four or five chatting and joking with each other, not a single officer keeping an eye on their surroundings making sure there was no danger. Some of those full time reserve should have been given jobs on Garnerville to help train the youngsters how to stay alive.


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    #4586
    wannabecop
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭wannabecop


    lauralush04 wrote: »
    ok thanks for the info!!! at least i know im still in there :)

    i recieved the wait till march letter along with full vetting and medical all completed !!!


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    #4587
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    wannabecop wrote: »
    i recieved the wait till march letter along with full vetting and medical all completed !!!

    What are your stats buddy?


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    #4588
    Dietcoke1
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Dietcoke1


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    How can you say that? These officers were trained to deal with terrorists, something which is still affecting NI's police officers today, the new recruits in Garnerville have not got that experience of working in a society which terrorists can move about in without detection. Look what happened a few months ago, three officers standing in a group were almost all killed by a terrorist on a bicycle. I have seen it where I lived, officers not wearing body armour standing in groups of four or five chatting and joking with each other, not a single officer keeping an eye on their surroundings making sure there was no danger. Some of those full time reserve should have been given jobs on Garnerville to help train the youngsters how to stay alive.

    I can say that as I have the experience of working with these men.

    I am not sure if you are aware but alot of these men were not operational and performed station security, so please tell me how was their "experience" a benefit to anyone???? Well paid security guards!!!

    The issue of the FTR has become political and as a result their value to the organisation has been way over rated by certain people.


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    #4589
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    Another sad day in this countrys stark history, i'm sure i speak for everyone when i say our thoughts are with that young officers family.

    To all serving, training and hopefull PCs out there, heads up, be safe and the best of luck.

    Weepete


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    #4590
    Gee-22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Gee-22


    Do you think any further intakes from C16 was discussed at Thursday's police board meeting?*


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    #4591
    Delancey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12995795


    Good to see folks not being scared off joining.


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