Battlefield 4 [aaaarrrghhh bitching and moaning]

Yesterday played a game on PS3 where we had two squads of 5 and I was left in a squad of 2. Not sure why they changed it, but it made for a really boring experience. Firstly I almost never had the chance to spawn near the action, and secondly team chat is gone so I could only talk to one person. Of course that means if I get into a vehicle with someone from another squad there's no way to communicate with the driver/gunner.

Why in a game that depends so much on teamwork would they make it more difficult to do so.

chickenboy wrote: »

Commander mode is.....pointless? Well probably not, but it's not the most exciting thing in the world. I was on a team getting destroyed playing rush on flood (defending). I'd already resigned myself to losing, so I decided to give commander a shot. I then proceeded to spend the next 5 minutes spamming UAVs and EMPs. Surprisingly, once I started, the tides turned and we actually held the last M-COM, so maybe it was of some use to the team. Even so, I'd still have no reason to want to do it again though; it felt like a flash game on the internet that'd you'd play for 2 minutes and then instantly forget about.

Am I right in thinking that once you choose to be commander, you're stuck there unless you leave the server, even when the round ends? Also, I was lead to believe there'd be cruise missiles?

Yea commander slot is a slot on the server so if you choose it the game won't keep a second slot free for you it will let someone else into it.

Is it just me, or have scout helos been given an exceptionally high amount of armour? On paracel last night I hit the same scout with three stingers in the space of 90 seconds (yes, they hit, I saw the hit marker and the damage report) and it refused to die (and then of course I got waxed by someone that my teammates should have been busily defending me from - what's the point of playing a support class like engineer if you get into the vicious cycle of PinnedDownByChopper-Can'tShootChopperBecauseYouWon'tCoverMe-Can'tCoverYouBecauseOfTheChopper-OhFeckOffSo?).

The Ilga might have more wallop than the stinger, but you can't hang around painting the target with the ilga or you get waxed even faster. It's getting to the stage where if the map has no AA vehicles and does have choppers and a pilot who doesn't fly sideways into the ground; then you might as well just quit and go to another server because otherwise, it's just spawn-die-spawn-die for the remainder of the tickets.

And on that (a thread about moaning and bitching running on? Say it ain't so Joe!) tangent, if you can't fly a helo in the game, please go learn on the test range first. There's nothing quite so irritating as taking the precious few hours you get on the weekend when you have young kids, going to play some bf4 instead of the dozen other things you need that time for, getting in the helo in Flood several times over in order to clean the cheapass snipers off the rooftops only to have the pilot fly you into the ground, the buildings, or just off the map and get lost trying to return, all the while yammering on in chat like a certain BFF episode about how he's "learning". I mean, yay for learning, but bleep the bleep off and bleeping learn on the test range and your own time, that's what its for. FFS.



(all that said, I c4'd a tank, an LAV and a sniper who thought nobody was around while on one of the supports in Rogue Transmission last night and that rocked )

Well, that makes distressing sense

Basicly, the stinger's useless unless you have teamwork going on.
And the field upgrades are pretty useless unless you work as a team.
And most of the maps are impossible to win unless you work as a team.

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And all this in a game where teamwork seems to be about four steps beyond 90% of the players, where inter-squad comms is impossible and intra-squad comms is rare (seriously, I've yet to see a BF4 game in person where the players communicated)

/sigh

I've tried - every time I show up on an At0m or Gaellords or Celts server, there's basicly just me in TS.

Besides, effective teamwork means learning to work as a team, which means more time and effort learning to play and practicing to play, and pretty soon you start to grok why popcap make so much money off parents

Also, if you have an engineer sitting in the chopper, you can get it back to full health before a second missile has the time to hit. I managed to repair about four or five hits on the trot; in the end it took three guys with stingers working together to bring us down!

Well, you used to be able to repair in the air in BF3 and it didn't ruin the gameplay - the stingers and ilgas just had more wallop (or the helos less armour).


Also, it got mentioned on the chat thread but my current pet peeve (since I've spent a fair few years writing network code for a living):

Sparks wrote: »

Ah to feck.
Look folks, unless you have access to the BF4 source code, you really can't be sure that whatever's causing your problem is down to netcode (and "netcode" isn't even a word for pete's sake). It could be any one of a hundred things, from stuff on your own PC (if, like me, your rig isn't an Origin special costing more than my car is worth) to stuff on your local network (nice router, did it come free with a box of corn flakes?) to stuff on your ISP's network to stuff on the internet backbone, to stuff on the server's ISP's network to stuff on the server's local network to stuff on the other player's ISP's network to stuff on the other player's local network to stuff on the other player's PC. Sure, it could also be the network stack in BF4, but there are so many different possible causes that it just looks silly when you see people in chat on these games talking about how it's definitely the "netcode" and how DICE made a mess of things and so on.

I mean, how many of those players even know what language the "netcode" is written in or would be able to read it if they saw it?

C'mon lads...

Sparks wrote:

(This is really more of a bitching session than a complaint btw. So defend your engineers, don't run around corners, aim for the head, stop complaining about netcode, and GET OFF MY LAWN )

Just had horrible 2 games on Celts. Freaking everything would kill me, even inanimate objects ffs. Had so many bull**** moments too. Then after another stupid death game froze... I flipped and threw my keyboard...

There are good days in battlefield and there are bad ones, today was a bad one.

fergus1001 wrote: »

im not going to pretend i know about net code or anything like that but im sick of companies charging you to play there extended beta ! and the control scheme for battlefield on game pads are turned on its head

The actual Battlefield betas are a complete waste of time anyway (as a "beta").

If there was anything I'd bitch and moan about with the company itself, it'd be that this is the second time in a row that I've paid for the pre-release and not gotten what I paid for. The first time, I didn't get the advertised entry into the BF3 beta; this time, I didn't even get to pre-load the game until well after the North American release, and it was nearly a week later before we got to play it in Europe. What's the point of a preorder if that's how it's going to be released?

I hate the fact that you cant have 6 mines until the squad bar is full. This means that if you are getting steam rolled by the enemy you cant at least defend multiple approaches to an objective with your mines and run and gun. Anyone else notice that attack helis and jets are very rare? They only spawn on one or two maps in rush. Which is no harm I suppose nothing worse than chopper rape.

I hate how the vehicles control really wish they had let it alone. I was playing in Lancang dam and had driven a tank behind an enemy tank but no matter which way I turned the stick I couldn,t get the tank to go left, very frustrating.

tim3000 wrote: »

I hate how the vehicles control really wish they had let it alone. I was playing in Lancang dam and had driven a tank behind an enemy tank but no matter which way I turned the stick I couldn,t get the tank to go left, very frustrating.

You need to go into the options menu and turn off Zoolander mode.