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10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭stephendevlin


    As long as Americans vote to keep guns then they must acccept the risk they or their children will be murdered by guns


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    can anyone sum up what happened ? please so i dnt have to read 14 pages am shocked watching live on sky news


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Here we go... an analyst on sky news says that these kind of dark films attract people with a dark outlook. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    As long as Americans vote to keep guns then they must acccept the risk they or their children will be murdered by guns

    when is the last time they got to vote on it though? (idk honest question)


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,806 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    can anyone sum up what happened ? please so i dnt have to read 14 pages am shocked watching live on sky news
    Just look up any news site.. BBC, Sky News etc.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    You'd kinda wonder what sort of frame of mind someone has to be in to do something like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Baby ear muffs maybe. You'd see them a lot at concerts and festivals.

    think everyone else in the cinema might need a pair if the baby starts crying. and it wouldn't just be the sound but the movie is gonna be fairly dark and suddenly the whole screen lights up in an explosion and the speakers rock and shake the chair.

    I know this topic is dragging the thread off topic but it was also midmight over there, should baby not have been in bed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    You'd kinda wonder what sort of frame of mind someone has to be in to do something like that.

    According to analyst on sky news.

    A dark one :rolleyes:


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    smash wrote: »
    Here we go... an analyst on sky news says that these kind of dark films attract people with a dark outlook. :rolleyes:


    :D:D:D:D no no no thats video games your talking about


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,415 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    14 dead now :eek:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    can anyone sum up what happened ? please so i dnt have to read 14 pages am shocked watching live on sky news

    Timeline on Reddit posted earlier in the thread.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/wv8t1/comprehensive_timeline_aurora_massacre/

    From the same timeline:
    5:27: hgmanifold: Bomb squad is requesting a Ladder Truck and 30ft boom with "cherry picker"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    You'd kinda wonder what sort of frame of mind someone has to be in to do something like that.

    Not an ounce of humanity left in him i reckon. Him and Brevik should share a cell


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    can anyone sum up what happened ? please so i dnt have to read 14 pages am shocked watching live on sky news

    here is a timeline taken from reddit
    ABSTRACT

    Shooting at the AMC Century Cinema: map, local police scanner.

    Theater 9 (epicenter), Theater 8 (some hit), Theater 16 (people heard tear gas canisters)

    ALL TIMES IN MDT, AM

    1:27: "Bring as much crime scene tape as you can"

    1:28: Aurora PD merging communications with Denver PD

    1:35: Shooter wearing green camo pants

    1:37: bomb squad is there, bringing in K-9 units. possible other bombs

    1:40: 18 ambulances on scene

    1:41: 9news story posted.

    1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.

    1:43: Report of a bomb going off in a theater.

    1:45: Patients being transported to Denver Health

    1:47: Command staff briefing. This is huge.

    1:49: Car, Tennesee plates, Hyundai, license 074-VPD. third to west, in front of doors. Possible bomb. Main entrances of mall covered. Bomb squad moving in.

    1:53: Canine units coordinating at SE entrance between JC Penney's and the food court. May be a bomb in there. Theory that bombs may be in front of theater.

    1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.

    1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.

    1:57: Due to bombs, police relocating all units to S of Dillard's. Open door was in Macy's. Suspicions of bombs there.

    2:01: Submitted to Reddit. Second device possibly found, setting up a "unified command"

    2:06: On /r/denver.

    Comment from ThePenguinist: My best friend was at this. She said it happened about 30-40 minutes into the midnight premiere. Someone burst through the door and started shooting tear gas and then a gun. The only reason they got out was because they hit the ground and went for the door on their bellies. OMFG.

    2:04: MSNBC tweets the story.

    2:06: Secondary explosive device found in front of theater

    2:08: Bringing K-9 unit to the command post.

    2:14: Indian male found as witness. People (witnesses) moving to the food court entrance

    2:18: Witnesses being transported to Gateway High School. There are 100 witnesses.

    2:26: Story on MSNBC here

    2:28: Theatre 9 going to Gateway HS. Everyone else is triaged. No vehicles allowed to leave. Witnesses being photographs.

    2:30: Water jugs being moved.

    2:36: Called the Denver Batman massacre by the Belfas Telegraph

    2:42: "Possible older cop car-type seen fleeing the scene"

    2:45: Which ambulances going where: 5 to Denver, 14 to University, 4 to Children's, 3 to Aurora South, 2 to Parker, 2 to Swedish

    2:47: From 9News: 15 mins into movie, popping heard. People thought it was part of the movie. Saw material coming through the wall. Chaotic. Caused a scramble. Several injured people escorted into ambulances. Flow of ambulances slowed down, flow of police has not. SWAT teams there. Theater 9: Guy in body armor. "One of the largest scenes I've seen in my journalistic career."

    2:52: Several police cars surrounding a vehicle. Possible explosive devices inside.

    2:54: Tuned in to the 9News stream.

    2:58: Newscast from Gateway HS. Witness is talking. People heard explosions and gunfire. No idea what happened. One shooter had a gas mask and was throwing tear gas.

    2:59: Scanners report knife pulled on someone. WAY far away from theater. May be unrelated.

    3:01: Someone reporting hand pain outside the theater.

    3:02: Confirmed: At least 10 killed, 39 injured. Theaters 8 and 9 were sold out, and that's where the shooting took place. 9News confirms that one person is in custody.

    3:02: Nothing found inside the mall so far. Dogs coming out.

    3:06: Witness interview from earlier being replayed. Witness in Theater 9 was young woman. She described a man about 6' tall kicked through the door in a riot helmet and bulletproof vest. He was completely covered in all black, with goggles. After that, she and her boyfriend dropped to the floor. They got up, ran through the emergency exit. Shooter made his way up the stairs and started shooting people with the shotgun.

    3:10: News is stalling until the police chief address.

    3:15: Press conference: Gas released, gunman opened fire. Only know of one gunman. Police officers respond, find the gunman outside of the theater, carrying gas mask, rifle, handgun. One additional weapon found inside. 50 were hit. 14 confirmed dead.

    3:15: elcooleric comments from the shooting.

    3:30: AR-15 was the gun potentially used. One shooter or two? Many questions and very few answers other than a new death toll after the press conference. Keep your thoughts with the victims and their families.

    3:42: More testimonies. Babies and small girls shot. News anchors getting emotional. Reports that the suspect had explosives in his apartment, which is also being searched.

    3:48: Another /r/denver post from WaterSnake: here

    3:49: More confirmation. 14 dead. 50 injured.

    3:58: damian001 finds a video of the shooters aftermath. Warning, graphic contents. mirrored

    4:01: We beat 9News on the video. The video is extremely slightly graphic, and they aren't showing it with audio.

    4:04: "No reason to believe there is a second gunman"

    4:06: 10 died at the theater, 4 died at the hospital. 50 others had injuries.

    4:13: 911 calls and police radio being played. They're talking about the tear gas.

    4:30: 15 people confirmed dead. 9News may have been was hoaxed.

    4:35: President Barack Obama notified about the shooting.

    4:36: derphurr updates: a man was shot in Kia outside theater, police spotted man in gas mask (the suspect) in parking lot outside the back of the movie theater after the shooting, police found suspect by his car in the parking lot

    4:37: Another witness interview. Person's friend shot, but not fatally. "All I can do is pray."

    4:41: nilicule links the Denver 7News broadcast.

    4:46: Children's hospital in Aurora treating six victims aged 6 to 31; Chik-fil-a is opening for officers that need restrooms/food

    4:48: mkyweriga: Officer reports Navy Petty Officer inquiring about a US Navy Sailor being killed in the incident. Officers are unaware of the identities of any of the victims at this time.

    4:50: mkyweriga: Mall is cleared, floor cleaner released from police custody.

    4:55: Just called 9News about this timeline. Today Show has cancelled their show. Michael Phelps sends his condolences.

    5:04: White House releases a statement offering condolences: nilicule here

    5:10: Youngest patient at University hospital is 3 months old, according to a tweet

    5:15: I found a Wikipedia page about the shootings.

    5:16: nilicule: Good Morning America reports at least 100 FBI agents are on scene in Aurora, Colorado.

    5:17: hgmanifold: Car cleared by bomb squad, clearing backpacks.

    5:19: yelhsa87: Video of police describing shootings.

    5:25: nilicule: Eyewitness tells @todayshow that gunman was dressed in SWAT-like outfit, methodically shot people as they tried to exit room. Another walk-in victim at University (hgmanifold).

    5:26: Deus_Viator: Two eyewitnesses on 9News say that 2 gas canisters were thrown from separate locations in the theater. Maybe multiple gunmen? EDIT: I've been following this since 1:30 and it seemed like multiple gunmen around then. Take with a grain of salt. For now.

    5:27: hgmanifold: Bomb squad is requesting a Ladder Truck and 30ft boom with "cherry picker"

    5:28: Mitt Romney: 'Ann and I are deeply saddened by the news of the senseless violence that took the lives of 15 people in Colorado'

    you can get the updated one here


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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    14 dead now :eek:


    sadly :( this doesnt surprise me how often to you see this from america gun attacts in army bases school colleges


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    smash wrote: »
    Here we go... an analyst on sky news says that these kind of dark films attract people with a dark outlook. :rolleyes:

    Oh for goodness sake. The last one actually featured next to no blood, so as to keep it within the Certifcate (AFAIK). It was more of a psychological thriller.

    I love when idiot right wingers start blaming stuff like this on things they know nothing about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    smash wrote: »
    Here we go... an analyst on sky news says that these kind of dark films attract people with a dark outlook. :rolleyes:

    That's Sky's agenda, innit. Same is said about comics, manga, video games and so on. Lazy populist journalism at it's nadir.


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    on sky news just now what does she mean by cult film ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Would the volume of the movie not be a bit high for a baby? I don't really know, but if i sometimes find it uncomfy would they not

    When we went to see Spiderman 3, the fellow in front of us brought his 3 yr old daughter with him. Throughout the film the kid kept saying "Daddy, I'm scared" over and over. She was crying and he just kept telling her to "shut up".

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    old hippy wrote: »
    Tighten up gun control. Life sentence meaning life with no chance of parole in these situations. And tackle root problems of social ostracisation and bullying which often (though not necessarily in this case) lead to people being so remote from reality that they carry out such atrocities.

    Slavering over retribution and more bloodletting and satisfying knee jerk, populist urges is counter productive and brings you down closer to the level of the perp or perps.

    Tightening gun laws, tackling the root of the problem should be done in any case, regardless.

    We're not saying torture the pr!ck and let that be it. Anyone, who commits such crime should be made an example of in the extreme, in conjunction with gun laws etc.

    It doesn't bring us closer to the perp. Nobody here who do that to an innocent person, let alone a 3 month old baby.

    The liberal argument of 'we're as bad as he is' is total nonsense.

    I believe in harsher punishment than jail and to 'let him reflect'. People like this don't care at all. I seriously doubt there'd be much reflection in such cases.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    on sky news just now what does she mean by cult film ?

    Films that Sky news presenters don't watch, I imagine


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  • Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    danniemcq wrote: »
    think everyone else in the cinema might need a pair if the baby starts crying. and it wouldn't just be the sound but the movie is gonna be fairly dark and suddenly the whole screen lights up in an explosion and the speakers rock and shake the chair.

    I know this topic is dragging the thread off topic but it was also midmight over there, should baby not have been in bed?


    I don't know.

    It certainly isn't my place to judge the parenting of a mother who only a few hours ago lost her child to a lunatic gun man.


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    so this guy caught now not ? on the run


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,806 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    on sky news just now what does she mean by cult film ?
    Cult due to it's large dedicated fanbase I'm guessing..

    .. myself included!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    so this guy caught now not ? on the run
    He's in custody


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    but is anyone surprised really this is common these masacres in USA


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    My thoughts are with the family and friends of the dead.

    This somewhat dampens my excitement of going to see the Dark Knight Rises, me being a big fan of Batman, knowing this shit has happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Tightening gun laws, tackling the root of the problem should be done in any case, regardless.

    We're not saying torture the pr!ck and let that be it. Anyone, who commits such crime should be made an example of in the extreme, in conjunction with gun laws etc.

    It doesn't bring us closer to the perp. Nobody here who do that to an innocent person, let alone a 3 month old baby.

    The liberal argument of 'we're as bad as he is' is total nonsense.

    I believe in harsher punishment than jail and to 'let him reflect'. People like this don't care at all. I seriously doubt there'd be much reflection in such cases.


    And who would carry out the punishment? You? Would it satisfy you enough, long term? Would it solve anything at all?

    Your tired use of the term "liberal" as an umbrella term for a very serious social malaise shows you don't "care at all", in fact. Seems to me, that's lazy point scoring at it's worst.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    on sky news just now what does she mean by cult film ?

    I'm not watching it but usually a cult film is one that isn't very popular but has it's appeal. Clockwork Orange is one. Donnie Darko. Stuff that isn't wolrd wide popular but you could easily find groups of people that love it.


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    Nailz wrote: »
    My thoughts are with the family and friends of the dead.

    This somewhat dampens my excitement of going to see the Dark Knight Rises, me being a big fan of Batman, knowing this shit has happen.

    ive seen all movies so far and one season 4 of the animated series making my up to batman beyond , the batman . batman brave and the bold & next years series beware the batman


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    davet82 wrote: »
    when is the last time they got to vote on it though? (idk honest question)

    Don't know about voting but polls show that support for gun control is at an all time low in America.


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