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M7 - Nenagh to Limerick

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  • #1002
    luohaoran
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭luohaoran


    Or perhaps they just haven't finished floating it into place yet.


  • #1003
    Berty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,152 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    luohoran.

    It's most likely down to drainage. If it were me I would have used the same positioning they did because if you imagine the northbound lane(right lane in the picture) the water would run down against the barrier and would collect at that section to a certain extent.

    The moisture will sink into the wearing course and eventually eat away at the compound.

    That gap will allow the water to run between both sides of the barrier and quickly pass down into the drainage.


  • #1004
    KevR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    luohaoran wrote: »
    Ok, I know very very little about building roads but I'd have to ask,...
    Wouldn't the central barriers be supposed to meet up. (looking at the last photo above)

    In fact the whole road looks misaligned. Perhaps its just a funny photographic effect with a section of the road not showing?!

    Someone enlighten me.

    That's just a drain which will run alongside the concrete central barrier (not there yet). The drain looks like it will switch from one side of the barrier to the other at the point where you thought the barrier joined up misaligned.

    Hope this helps!


  • #1005
    luohaoran
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭luohaoran


    Thanks Berty , KevR, makes perfect sense.

    So my only correct sentence was where I pointed out I know nothing about building roads.


  • #1006
    lukejr
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    luohaoran wrote: »
    Wouldn't the central barriers be supposed to meet up. (looking at the last photo above).

    The concrete barrier will be going left of the drain, not on top of it, so will match up with next section. You can see from the photo the road is going up a hill to a bridge. Water will flow down the hill instead of to the side, so switched sides like KevR posted.


  • #1007
    cargo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭cargo


    luohaoran wrote: »
    Or perhaps they just haven't finished floating it into place yet.

    :D


  • #1008
    AlanD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭AlanD


    I passed the Nenagh tie in on the way to Dublin last night and came back tonight. Last night, there were men working on the railway bridge, putting up steel panelling or something. The old steel barrier on the old nenagh bypass was still in place it looked like they still had a bit to do.

    Coming down tonight though, the steel barrier was being removed. There was plenty of men around working as I passed at around 9:30pm. So perhaps the final push is on to finish the tie in. There's only about 200m to do I reckon.


  • #1009
    popebenny16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭popebenny16


    AlanD wrote: »
    I passed the Nenagh tie in on the way to Dublin last night and came back tonight. Last night, there were men working on the railway bridge, putting up steel panelling or something. The old steel barrier on the old nenagh bypass was still in place it looked like they still had a bit to do.

    Coming down tonight though, the steel barrier was being removed. There was plenty of men around working as I passed at around 9:30pm. So perhaps the final push is on to finish the tie in. There's only about 200m to do I reckon.

    the only hold up on the Nenagh Bypass widening was the simplist bit - the Railway Bridge. Funny that :rolleyes:


  • #1010
    Tech3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    Any updates on the tie in with the Nenagh bypass at junction 26?


  • #1011
    AlanD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭AlanD


    Gonna be passing later today so I'll report back later on.


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  • #1012
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    I went for a walk along the Gooig bog section of the motorway today, they are still driving the concrete poles into the side of the road in parts of the motorway. Along that particular section they still have to put down the final layor of tarmac and erect the crash barriers along the side of the road. In one small section of the road they still haven't put down any tarmac at all. From the Bog Road bridge on however everything seems to be completed excluding that troublesome area . . .


  • #1013
    AlanD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭AlanD


    AlanD wrote: »
    Gonna be passing later today so I'll report back later on.

    To be honest there isn't a huge change in the last week at the tie in. Men were still fixing paneling to the railway bridge, but today it looked like they were tightening bolts on the paneling. The northbound section of road looks like it has a new layer of tar, or whatever ye call it. The current traffic route is still the same and still on the original level. They don't look near to being done given how far things have come along in the last week. I reckon at least another 2 weeks. But that's a finger in the air guess with no real knowledge of how long these things take.


  • #1014
    lukejr
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    AlanD wrote: »
    To be honest there isn't a huge change in the last week at the tie in...

    This tie-in seems to be taking forever, and the current setup is just dangerous, has been since the bypass opened without proper slip-roads onto the N52.

    Anyone get an update on the actual date for opening this section?


  • #1015
    AlanD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭AlanD


    lukejr wrote: »
    This tie-in seems to be taking forever, and the current setup is just dangerous

    The tie in at the Limerick end of this road isn't ideal alright, but the tie in for the Castletown Nenagh road is just crazy! Going from 120km/h down to a super narrow road with works on either side. I don't think there's enough slowing measures so you enter that tie in at a good enough speed.


  • #1016
    lukejr
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    AlanD wrote: »
    The tie in at the Limerick end of this road isn't ideal alright, but the tie in for the Castletown Nenagh road is just crazy! Going from 120km/h down to a super narrow road with works on either side. I don't think there's enough slowing measures so you enter that tie in at a good enough speed.

    I have to agree, very narrow at the east side. At night heading towards Limerick from Toomyvara there is no light and few signs make it very difficult to know where the median starts and then the motorway bypass.


  • #1017
    solidwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭solidwork


    It wouldn't be too bad if it was better lit at night, i dont know how there hasn't been an accident there yet. I'm so sick of this M7, the tie in at the limerick side of the nenagh bypass is takin forever what are they playing at. It just seems to be makin so little progess. Are they down to a skeleton staff or something. :confused:


  • #1018
    ClutchIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭ClutchIt


    It's very f'ing demoralising alright. I never see them doing much work with it. If everyone was just doing their job right with no beaurocracy it would be open by now.

    I know when it will be open by the way. The very day I move to Dublin and no longer drive Limk-Dublin every weekend.


  • #1019
    Deedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    I wish they would hurry up, I drive past every week. There never seems to be much going on at the Nenagh junction. I just hope it opens March 24th. The way things are going the Shunnel could be finished first.


  • #1020
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Deedsie wrote: »
    I wish they would hurry up, I drive past every week. There never seems to be much going on at the Nenagh junction. I just hope it opens March 24th. The way things are going the Shunnel could be finished first.

    Ya your right i said that a long time ago and i was been serious. I think if everyone of us send a disgruntled e mail to the contractor and the nra it might do something. A clip round the ear never done anyone and harm.:mad:


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  • #1021
    Berty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,152 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    The tie in at Finnegans has gantries above and the exit sign for Newport, Annacotty is in place. The markings on the carriageways has been placed down heading onto the flyover(some of them).

    About freakin' time!


  • #1022
    Wild Bill
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    How can the open it if the bog is still causing problems? :confused:


  • #1023
    Deedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    How can the open it if the bog is still causing problems? :confused:

    There has been no opening date confirmed. March 24th was mentioned, you could take that with a pinch of salt.

    Suppose at least the lads on the site are getting a few extra months work this way.


  • #1024
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    That's just the Nenagh - Birdhill section by the way. The section with that crosses the bog won't open until around May or June.


  • #1025
    Deedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Stark wrote: »
    That's just the Nenagh - Birdhill section by the way. The section with that crosses the bog won't open until around May or June.

    Are you sure about this? No possibility for the entire stretch from Nenagh to Limerick opening on March 24th?


  • #1026
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Well this is the reply someone here got a few weeks ago:
    SARASON wrote: »
    Well folks, i emailed your man in the nra today to see what the story was. This the reply.
    Malachy,
    A 7km section of the scheme upgrading the Nenagh BP to Motorway and a new Interchange on the Nenagh-Thurles road opened on Dec 17th last. The Birdhill section is scheduled for middle of March and the entire project is expected to be completed by May/June.

    Thank you
    Sent: 23 February 2010 14:04
    To: Sean O'Neill
    Subject:


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  • #1027
    Tech3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    Deedsie wrote: »
    Are you sure about this? No possibility for the entire stretch from Nenagh to Limerick opening on March 24th?

    I'll be suprised if I see the any bit of M7 open within the next 2 months. They will drag the ar** out of the tie in to keep them in a job for another while.


  • #1028
    Deedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    I lifted this from an earlier post.

    "I emailed the same guy as Clon with the following specific question & his reply

    Subject: Nenagh to Limerick

    Hi John,

    Could you please give me an estimate as to when this motorway will open ?

    If it is to open in stages, could you please estimate which stage will open & when ?

    Thanks a million John

    Reply:

    The Contractor has advised that the road will be open before the end of March 2010.

    John O’Brien

    Limerick County Council

    Make of that what you will, but he doesn't mention a piecemeal opening so I doubt any opening of any section today ! In fact sounds to me like they will open the whole scheme around the end of March ! ( Just my reading of it ! )"


  • #1029
    fresca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭fresca


    tech2 wrote: »
    I'll be suprised if I see the any bit of M7 open within the next 2 months. They will drag the ar** out of the tie in to keep them in a job for another while.
    yip. no rush.
    looks like m9 knocktopher to waterford will be the only politicians picnic (aka road opening) this month...
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=64806308&postcount=2142


  • #1030
    Deedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    tech2 wrote: »
    I'll be suprised if I see the any bit of M7 open within the next 2 months. They will drag the ar** out of the tie in to keep them in a job for another while.

    Well they are taking the mick at this stage. They have basically got an extra 9 months out of it already. Does anyone know how much this stretch of road has cost taxpayers to date? Time for a letter to our TD's?


  • #1031
    fresca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭fresca


    i wonder will we see any on time and within budget quotes for the n7 limerick - nenagh?

    surely not... but you'd never know...


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  • #1032
    fresca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭fresca


    Deedsie wrote: »
    Well they are taking the mick at this stage. They have basically got an extra 9 months out of it already. Does anyone know how much this stretch of road has cost taxpayers to date? Time for a letter to our TD's?

    Maybe they have a target of 1 year late?

    it looks though that by the june bank holiday w/end we should have nenagh to limerick + shannon tunnel open
    based on guestimates on sticky thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055681234


  • #1033
    lukejr
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    Iamhere wrote: »
    One of my friends has done work on this road and he says it will open on 24th of March, how true it is i dont know...

    Anyone hear an update on this, or will it just be the Nenagh to Birdhill section?

    If it's not raining this weekend I'll walk both sections with camera again and report back.


  • #1034
    Deedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    I emailed my local TD on the issue. Unfortunately this is her take on things.

    To <maire.hoctor@oireachtas.ie>
    cc
    Subject N7 Nenagh to Limerick

    Hello Máire,
    Could you try and find out a date for the opening of the N7 motorway stretch between Nenagh and Limerick.
    We have waited long enough for this stretch to open. We have been given several estimated dates, all have come and passed.
    I would appreciate if you could find out some information as it seems like tax payers are being taken for a ride again.
    Will the entire stretch open on March 24th?

    Regards,

    Reply:
    Hello ,
    Thank you for your e-mail.
    I had occasion to meet informally last week with Peter Malone the CEO
    of the NRA who informed me that the opening would happen in mid April.
    That of course will be from Nenagh to Birdhill.
    I did not hear of any possibility of any opening on March 24th.
    However, I will delve further and find out for you and return to you as soon as I get the information.
    Kind regards,
    Máire

    Máire F. Hoctor T.D.,
    Fianna Fáil, Tipperary North.


  • #1035
    fresca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭fresca


    mid-april for nenagh - birdhill....:mad:

    aaaaarrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • #1036
    fresca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭fresca


    From the bothar hibernian website [ http://n7nenaghtolimerick.com/ ]
    I emailed the project office info@botharhibernian.com
    to seek clarity on the opening dates etc.

    the email bounced back with a Delivery Notification Failure....

    looks like there is nobody home....
    now why is that not surprising....


  • #1037
    clon
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭clon


    fresca ,use this e-mail address, I used this a few weeks back and got a reply the following day.


    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Project Liaison Officer: John O'Brien
    Phone (Office Hours): 061 633440
    Email Address: jobrien@n7n2l.ie     [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Contractor: Bothair Hibernian N7 JV[/FONT]


  • #1038
    gryff
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭gryff


    this section seems to be progressing well..


  • #1039
    lukejr
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    Excellent progress made on this section over the past week. Median finished and all surfaced, looks from the photo that the final layer of tar is down, as drain appears level with surface. They do seem to be getting this section ready, lines and cats-eyes is all that's left.

    Considering that almost the rest of the motorway is near finished (except for Nenagh tie-in) there shouldn't be any reason this section is delayed past April, but who knows.

    Thanks for posting the photo.


  • #1040
    Deedsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    lukejr wrote: »
    Excellent progress made on this section over the past week. Median finished and all surfaced, looks from the photo that the final layer of tar is down, as drain appears level with surface. They do seem to be getting this section ready, lines and cats-eyes is all that's left.

    Considering that almost the rest of the motorway is near finished (except for Nenagh tie-in) there shouldn't be any reason this section is delayed past April, but who knows.

    Thanks for posting the photo.

    Exactly, who does know? We have had emails from project managers, workers, engineers, TD's! None of whom have a set date. Mid April for Nenagh to Birdhill is a disaster seeing as it was supposed to open by the end of this month! As referenced on the Nenagh Guardian.


  • #1041
    Tech3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    Deedsie wrote: »
    Exactly, who does know? We have had emails from project managers, workers, engineers, TD's! None of whom have a set date. Mid April for Nenagh to Birdhill is a disaster seeing as it was supposed to open by the end of this month! As referenced on the Nenagh Guardian.

    The Birdhill-Nenagh section was originally due to open in January and then they kept moving the date up a month.
    Deedsie wrote:
    Time for a letter to our TD's?

    Most certainly. I encourage every poster here to get onto their local TD's to get this project under the spotlight. There has been dire media attention of this project, RTE have barely covered it only seen it mentioned once. This has been a national disgrace for well over a year now and it is coming to the point where some media coverage is required on it.


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  • #1042
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Can you imagine the situation if there had been much rain the last couple of months!


  • #1043
    The Word Is Bor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭The Word Is Bor


    Thin Surface wearing course has been laid from underneath the overbridge back towards the tie of the Nenagh Bypass/M7 proper in the hard shoulder/lane 1 of both carriageways. Lane 2 for both carriageways is the current temporary alignment for traffic, so maybe tomorrow they might switch over the Temporary Traffic Management.

    Now for a rumour that I heard today. Apparently one of the subcontractors was driving a low loader along the motorway to collect a machine but there was a leak in the diesel tank. This is going to result in the thin surface wearing course being planed out and relaid over the stained section. Not sure of the length involved.


  • #1044
    lukejr
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    The Word Is Bor wrote: »
    Now for a rumour that I heard today. Apparently one of the subcontractors was driving a low loader along the motorway to collect a machine but there was a leak in the diesel tank. This is going to result in the thin surface wearing course being planed out and relaid over the stained section. Not sure of the length involved.

    Funny you say this, I heard a very similar story last week that an oil spillage had delayed opening.


  • #1045
    fresca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭fresca


    clon wrote: »
    fresca ,use this e-mail address, I used this a few weeks back and got a reply the following day.


    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Project Liaison Officer: John O'Brien
    Phone (Office Hours): 061 633440
    Email Address: jobrien@n7n2l.ie     [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Contractor: Bothair Hibernian N7 JV[/FONT]

    emailed yesterday (mar 11th)
    still awaiting reply...
    asked for:
    1. update on scheme
    2. for website to be updated


  • #1046
    clon
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭clon


    Lots more detail and pictures on this weeks Nenagh Guardian online addition , see front page and page 21 for all the details.They say that nenagh to Birdhill will open before the end of this month.

    http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODE/NenaghGuardian/


  • #1047
    fresca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭fresca


    clon wrote: »
    Lots more detail and pictures on this weeks Nenagh Guardian online addition , see front page and page 21 for all the details.They say that nenagh to Birdhill will open before the end of this month.

    http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Olive/ODE/NenaghGuardian/

    Just an extract....
    "... there will not be any formal ceremony to open the road..."
    "... remedial work has now commenced on a larger section of the road..."

    probably a good thing that there will be no official road opening ceremony, as this is an embarrassement...

    Bottom line ... Five Alley to Birdhill interchange ... within the next few weeks
    Birdhill - Limerick ... around end may / start june.

    is there finally some light at the end of this tunnel?


  • #1048
    Roryhy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Roryhy


    From article above-

    "Motorists opting to switch between the M7 and M8 (Dublin-Cork motorway) at a new interchange near Portlaoise at Cullahill will have to pay a toll, as will motorists using the new Limerick Tunnel, but there will be no toll plaza on any section of the M7 itself."

    Have they even tried to research this?


  • #1049
    lukejr
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    Roryhy wrote: »
    Have they even tried to research this?

    That's why I take everything said in the article with a pinch of salt, doesn't surprise me though.


  • #1050
    gryff
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭gryff


    Roryhy wrote: »
    From article above-

    "Motorists opting to switch between the M7 and M8 (Dublin-Cork motorway) at a new interchange near Portlaoise at Cullahill will have to pay a toll, as will motorists using the new Limerick Tunnel, but there will be no toll plaza on any section of the M7 itself."

    Have they even tried to research this?

    Clearly this is wrong as the toll plaza is on the M7 after the M8 joins it. But the sense of it is right - if you are travelling on the M7 and want to drive south on the M8 you will have to travel beyond the toll plaza to the Portlaoise interchange in order to change motorways ??


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  • #1051
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    gryff wrote: »
    Clearly this is wrong as the toll plaza is on the M7 after the M8 joins it. But the sense of it is right - if you are travelling on the M7 and want to drive south on the M8 you will have to travel beyond the toll plaza to the Portlaoise interchange in order to change motorways ??
    In what sense is it right?
    I am stumped!! You cant travel on the M7 and not pass a toll booth, whether you are doing a u turn in Portlaoise or not.


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