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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    So the positivity from NPHET & the continued reopening of the country didn’t last long....

    Why are they out with this nonsense that’s perfectly timed when there’s talk of travel bubbles, EU green certs and other positive developments from outside of Ireland.

    1. Vaccines work better against the Indian variant B1617.2 than they do against the South African variant.
    2. It doesn’t appear as transmissible as first feared. It is possibly comparable to B117.

    https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1395335070215454721?s=21

    Older vaccinated people are safe & are just starting to enjoy life again. This kind of rhetoric does nothing only adversely affect & frighten the vulnerable groups who most likely are vaccinated at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    harr wrote: »
    A lot of older people don’t read beyond a headline and watch RTÉ exclusively for news so what a lot are hearing is scaremongering .
    A lot of older people were nearly locked up for a year and only getting back to some normality now .. so when they hear a Doctor say “ a black cloud on the Horizon “ it frightens them.
    Not everyone has the capability of going looking for facts and figures in the appropriate place and only have George Lee to listen to.

    A lot of older people actually read the article as opposed to younger people who's attention spans have been wrecked by social media and hence only pay attention to headlines and then go and get triggered.
    But yeah carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Did I see something about Holohan only getting vaccinated today?

    It seems ludicrous to me if he's a healthcare worker, although he is probably happy enough to spread doom from his high horse rather than actually help with the vaccine rollout as a doctor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,028 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Did I see something about Holohan only getting vaccinated today?

    It seems ludicrous to me if he's a healthcare worker, although he is probably happy enough to spread doom from his high horse rather than actually help with the vaccine rollout as a doctor.

    Or maybe he's just serving a dose of realism? Maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    NPHET on the one hand deem the situation not serious enough to meet weekly anymore but on the other hand come out with the usual scariant stuff just in time for people going into their weekends and for discussions on the further lifting of restrictions early next week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    JP100 wrote: »
    NPHET on the one hand deem the situation not serious enough to meet weekly anymore but on the other hand come out with the usual scariant stuff just in time for people going into their weekends and for discussions on the further lifting of restrictions early next week.

    And managed to upset a lot of people with family in the UK . We were all looking forward to seeing family ,kids , grandchildren , sisters and brothers after nearly 18 months .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »

    Meh not all too concerned by this. We'll have the EU travel pass by mid July time, after that free to go where you want. Only about 6 or 7 weeks to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Meh not all too concerned by this. We'll have the EU travel pass by mid July time, after that free to go where you want. Only about 6 or 7 weeks to go.

    I am and lots of people with family in the UK ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,902 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Did I see something about Holohan only getting vaccinated today?

    It seems ludicrous to me if he's a healthcare worker, although he is probably happy enough to spread doom from his high horse rather than actually help with the vaccine rollout as a doctor.

    Haha, keep going , cracking up with some of these comments :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,902 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    And managed to upset a lot of people with family in the UK . We were all looking forward to seeing family ,kids , grandchildren , sisters and brothers after nearly 18 months .

    Doubt if it will be applying to those vaccinated .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am and lots of people with family in the UK ?

    Yes and in a few weeks time it'll be possible. Nothing realistically was going to happen before July time anyway.

    Let's see what next weeks announcement brings. Mood music is still UK travel start of July, EU travel to follow soon after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    And managed to upset a lot of people with family in the UK . We were all looking forward to seeing family ,kids , grandchildren , sisters and brothers after nearly 18 months .

    Lines are regularly thrown out at this stage now by NPHET with very little empathy for what alot of people have gone through and are continuing to go through during this pandemic. They're behaving like robots at this stage and expecting us to do likewise while our politicians continue to hide behind the sofa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I'm literally banging my head off a wall listening to the radio stations letting da gascin and co say if the Indian variant evades the vaccine were in trouble even though we have had the vaccine manufacturers come out today saying that won't happen.

    Am I living in a parallel universe here?

    How are they allowed get way with this on air?

    Blatent lies. Its scandalous.

    Lying on the airwaves to the whole nation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Yes and in a few weeks time it'll be possible. Nothing realistically was going to happen before July time anyway.

    Let's see what next weeks announcement brings. Mood music is still UK travel start of July, EU travel to follow soon after.

    Thanks . I am just upset tonight with this nonsense being peddled . I just need to see my daughter in the UK and she needs to see us . She can not isolate for 5 days as she would only be able to stay here for 3-5 days .
    Thankfully she is vaccinated with one dise of AZ and second one in July


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Yes and in a few weeks time it'll be possible. Nothing realistically was going to happen before July time anyway.

    Let's see what next weeks announcement brings. Mood music is still UK travel start of July, EU travel to follow soon after.

    Fingers crossed cause I've already booked time off and flights for the second week of July to the UK :( I'm fully vaccinated so figured it'd PROBABLY be okay by then and a sibling needs me there to help with something important


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    shinzon wrote: »
    From Sky news timeline timeline timestamped 12.53



    Shin

    Do you have any opinion on what you post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,902 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Fingers crossed cause I've already booked time off and flights for the second week of July to the UK :( I'm fully vaccinated so figured it'd PROBABLY be okay by then and a sibling needs me there to help with something important

    Are we on their red list? Surely not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Are we on their red list? Surely not

    No, not at all.

    It's quarantine when I come home that's the issue. It was a major struggle to get enough time off to do what's needed to be done, if I have to quarantine when I come home, I have to cancel unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Meanwhile is California...

    https://twitter.com/independent_ie/status/1395854460061196290?s=21

    Approx 35 million doses administered, so assuming two shot vaccines - approx 80% adult population first dose, or 50% of adult population fully completed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,094 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is it 72 cases of Indian variant here?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is it 72 cases of Indian variant here?
    Yes. Most of these are via random sequencing rather than targeted sequencing of cases from hotel quarantine/arrivals so there is certainly more than 72 cases in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Based on reports it seems that the South African variant is more likely to escape vaccines rather than the Indian one.

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1396015157231357952


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    I'm literally banging my head off a wall listening to the radio stations letting da gascin and co say if the Indian variant evades the vaccine were in trouble even though we have had the vaccine manufacturers come out today saying that won't happen.

    Am I living in a parallel universe here?

    How are they allowed get way with this on air?

    Blatent lies. Its scandalous.

    Lying on the airwaves to the whole nation.

    Boy who cried wolf situation, they have shown that they will insinuate that a variant evades the vaccine when there is proof otherwise, the next time they insinuate that who will listen???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,278 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Based on reports it seems that the South African variant is more likely to escape vaccines rather than the Indian one.

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1396015157231357952

    Qatar's wave of infection has largely abated now, they're around the same level as us with cases per population, and only a few weeks ahead in terms of vaccination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Good to see none of the rags ran with the scary variant story on their front pages.. strange that is the case. Usually they’d have it plastered!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Good to see none of the rags ran with the scary variant story on their front pages.. strange that is the case. Usually they’d have it plastered!

    Yet posters still bring it up on here and discuss the negativity for the day. Strange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Yet posters still bring it up on here and discuss the negativity for the day. Strange

    Our CMO and NPHET who have been advising our every move throughout the pandemic are the ones who have been reporting on it.

    "black clouds on the horizon" is how Tony Holahan described it.
    And went on to say the PHE had data that will likely show that there would be a decrease in the effectiveness of the vaccine against transmition.

    So it Is certainly relevent to discuss what he has said on this forum, it is a bit worrying that he would say these things when details about what PHE were not even released at that point. People will say yea but it is better he tells us the truth. But he does seem to be scaremongering with the way he said it.
    And I am someone who has agreed with most of how they have handled things so far.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wadacrack wrote: »

    Hopefully that will dispel any black clouds on the horizon, most of the general public have had it to here with negativity and "concern" after 14 months. The vaccines are proving their weight in gold, let us never contemplate lockdown again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Hopefully that will dispel any black clouds on the horizon, most of the general public have had it to here with negativity and "concern" after 14 months. The vaccines are proving their weight in gold, let us never contemplate lockdown again.

    So all in - another panic. So we hold our nerve - gradual reopening and get as many vaccines into arms as possible.


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