The BIG medicinal cannabis discussion

LiNgWiStIkZ · 08-09-2010 1:48pm #1

08/09/2010 - 10:19:07
A proposal to legalise cannabis for medicinal use in Ireland will be discussed at a meeting of the EU Health Commission in Brussels in the coming days.

Campaigners say that cannabis can be used to cure or to treat many ailments including cancer, HIV-AIDS, multiple schlerosis, and arthritis.

The campaign for the legalisation of medicinal cannabis in Ireland is also due to meet the Minister for Drugs Pat Carey tomorrow to discuss proposals allowing the drug to be prescribed here.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eu-to-discuss-legalising-medicinal-cannabis-472690.html#ixzz0ywRQLavA

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eu-to-discuss-legalising-medicinal-cannabis-472690.html

Minister for Drugs Pat Carey has a meeting tomorrow too with Gordon McArdle, the man who has written the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Act. He has made a package for the government to read, containing scientific information, testimonials, etc. and it's been translated to many languages, to which he hopes the rest of the EU can follow. The act is loosely based on California's laws but a much more regulated process. Fingers crossed guys, this can work!

The CUMCA website is http://www.hempirl.webs.com/

Good things are happening people!

FunkZ · 08-09-2010 1:51pm

"Look at these marose muthafcukas right here, smell like someone shit in their cereal... BONNNGGG."

AIDS and weed, or drink and smokes. Drink for me!

Wompa1 · 08-09-2010 1:53pm

LiNgWiStIkZ wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eu-to-discuss-legalising-medicinal-cannabis-472690.html

Minister for Drugs Pat Carey has a meeting tomorrow too with Gordon McArdle, the man who has written the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Act. He has made a package for the government to read, containing scientific information, testimonials, etc. and it's been translated to many languages, to which he hopes the rest of the EU can follow. The act is loosely based on California's laws but a much more regulated process. Fingers crossed guys, this can work!

The CUMCA website is http://www.hempirl.webs.com/

Good things are happening people!

It's only good if its a better system than California. As in not every Tom, Dick and Harry can go in and get prescribed it for some bogus cause. e.g. Snoop Dogg suffering from f'kin anxiety!

I have never ever heard before that it cures cancer, aids or arthiritus...pardon the pun but it sounds like someones blowing smoke up our asses

Dravokivich · 08-09-2010 1:56pm

LiNgWiStIkZ wrote: »

Good things are happening people!

But it's for medicinal use... not for stoners...

FunkZ · 08-09-2010 1:56pm

He will go in with scientific facts, that will scare whoever he speaks with and automatically make this a no go.

Fcukin' science hating ****.

LiNgWiStIkZ · 08-09-2010 1:57pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

But it's for medicinal use... not for stoners...

It's a step forward.

ScumLord · 08-09-2010 1:57pm

I'm off to stick my balls in the microwave in anticipation.

blubloblu · 08-09-2010 1:59pm

I can't take that website seriously.

TPD · 08-09-2010 2:02pm

Hot shít, wouldn't think Ireland would have the balls to consider anything as radical and outlandish as that. Imagine, a helpful substance being allowed to help people.

LiNgWiStIkZ · 08-09-2010 2:08pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

I have never ever heard before that it cures cancer, aids or arthiritus...pardon the pun but it sounds like someones blowing smoke up our asses

http://www.nowpublic.com/thc_marijuana_helps_cure_cancer_says_harvard_study

http://www.phoenixtears.ca/

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/68/2/339.short

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/new_cancer_treatments/104300

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071226004546.htm

Google "cannabinoids and cancer/tumour"

Sykk · 08-09-2010 2:11pm

Something less damaging than Cigarettes and more helpful than most of the shíte medication you get to cure countless illnesses becoming legal? Never.

LiNgWiStIkZ · 08-09-2010 2:12pm

Ah Sykk, but we can only hope!

MagicSean · 08-09-2010 2:15pm

I wonder will there be a prohibition on supplying it to people with drug convictions.

thebigbiffo · 08-09-2010 2:15pm

as long as i cant get a prescription for my 'stress' or my 'depression' or my other various non-physical (and harder to prove) ailments i'll be as happy as a hippy in the 'dam.

i wont be holding my breath though

Wazdakka · 08-09-2010 2:16pm

blubloblu wrote: »

I can't take that website seriously.

Breakingnews.ie?

Yea me neither. The news is always so boring.
It's just not a patch on the onion.

ScumLord · 08-09-2010 2:17pm

k_mac wrote: »

I wonder will there be a prohibition on supplying it to people with drug convictions.

Why, are you saying people with a conviction shouldn't get medical care?

Logical Fallacy · 08-09-2010 2:18pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

I have never ever heard before that it cures cancer, aids or arthiritus...pardon the pun but it sounds like someones blowing smoke up our asses

"To cure or to treat", being the phrase used.

TPD · 08-09-2010 2:18pm

thebigbiffo wrote: »

as long as i cant get a prescription for my 'stress' or my 'depression' or my other various non-physical (and harder to prove) ailments i'll be as happy as a hippy in the 'dam.

i wont be holding my breath though

My insomnia has been playing up a bit recently :P

08-09-2010 2:18pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Why, are you saying people with a conviction shouldn't get medical care?

Absolutely. People with drug convictions shouldn't be allowed have access to drugs which can be abused, ranging from codeine to morphine. Doesn't matter if they're sick; they do drugs so they're LOWLIFES!!!1!!!1!111L OLLL

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MagicSean · 08-09-2010 2:21pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Why, are you saying people with a conviction shouldn't get medical care?

If they have a conviction for selling drugs I dont see why they should be given stuff to sell.

LiNgWiStIkZ · 08-09-2010 2:22pm

k_mac wrote: »

If they have a conviction for selling drugs I dont see why they should be given stuff to sell.

They'll need to visit their GP and it's up to them whether they want to give it to them or not.

If this comes into place, I wouldn't see the point in buying from the black market when you can get safer produce legally!

philologos · 08-09-2010 2:24pm

Medicinal cannabis, as a treatment, prescribed by doctors in appropriate amounts isn't a problem by me. I'd be supportive of legalising medicinal cannabis in that capacity only. There would have to be safeguards in order to estimate appropriate need and ensure that there aren't serious abuses.

Logical Fallacy · 08-09-2010 2:27pm

LiNgWiStIkZ wrote: »

If this comes into place, I wouldn't see the point in buying from the black market when you can get safer produce legally!

This is the kind of **** that really pisses me off. There are actually people in this country that would really benefit from access to medicinal cannabis and all this thread is going to be about is falsifying reasons to get it.

Bull****ting your way into would hardly be getting it legally, as your would be fraudulently claiming to have medical issues you didn't have with the direct goal of obtaining a substance that would otherwise be off limits to you.

At least view that fraud as what it is.

jackiebaron · 08-09-2010 2:28pm

Wompa1 wrote: »

It's only good if its a better system than California. As in not every Tom, Dick and Harry can go in and get prescribed it for some bogus cause. e.g. Snoop Dogg suffering from f'kin anxiety!

I have never ever heard before that it cures cancer, aids or arthiritus...pardon the pun but it sounds like someones blowing smoke up our asses

Nobody is claiming that it CURES these conditions, it helps TREAT them. Cancer sufferers get great pain relief from a few hits of weed. It also eases the pain of arthritis and many other painful conditions. It helps those with glaucoma, etc.

LiNgWiStIkZ · 08-09-2010 2:29pm

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

This is the kind of **** that really pisses me off. There are actually people in this country that would really benefit from access to medicinal cannabis and all this thread is going to be about is falsifying reasons to get it.

Bull****ting your way into would hardly be getting it legally, as your would be fraudulently claiming to have medical issues you didn't have with the direct goal of obtaining a substance that would otherwise be off limits to you.

At least view that fraud as what it is.

What??

I didn't say anything about falsifying any medical issues. I just made the point that nobody has to go to the black market to treat their illness, as they can get it from their GP (that is if this is passed)

LiNgWiStIkZ · 08-09-2010 2:30pm

jackiebaron wrote: »

Nobody is claiming that it CURES these conditions, it helps TREAT them. Cancer sufferers get great pain relief from a few hits of weed.

More than that buddy

Check my post from the previous page!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31Nuj_AvTg

Corsendonk · 08-09-2010 2:31pm

Jakkass wrote: »

Medicinal cannabis, as a treatment, prescribed by doctors in appropriate amounts isn't a problem by me. I'd be supportive of legalising medicinal cannabis in that capacity only. There would have to be safeguards in order to estimate appropriate need and ensure that there aren't serious abuses.

This debate was in the politics forum a couple of weeks ago. Of course the stoners thought it was a license to actually grow the plants themselves if they had a headache and prescribe to their mates. The kind of thinking that gets the law revoked in a couple of months.

stbrennan · 08-09-2010 2:32pm

Legalise it in Ireland only...
We are becoming immune to whiskey

They need something else to stop us taking over the world!:D

Wompa1 · 08-09-2010 2:34pm

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

"To cure or to treat", being the phrase used.

exactly..they should not use cure. They have state To cure in the news article which is ballsy and sensationalist....The links provided by another poster doesn't say it cures either. THC which is in it can help stop the spread or growth of tumours...also in the study the THC was injected. Wouldn't it then be possible to have this as a series of injections to reduce risk to the lungs?

I watched a documentary before about it in California. In fairness the people that used it did like it but they also weren't abusing the stuff and used special filters to ensure they were getting what was needed medicinal.

jackiebaron · 08-09-2010 2:35pm

k_mac wrote: »

If they have a conviction for selling drugs I dont see why they should be given stuff to sell.

Well if they have been selling it it the past then I'm sure they don't need a bloody doctor's note to get some for their own consumption if they are suffering. Just call up some of the old contacts.

ScumLord · 08-09-2010 2:38pm

k_mac wrote: »

If they have a conviction for selling drugs I dont see why they should be given stuff to sell.

Your bringing in bureaucracy into it now and restricting medical care based on a persons past. I don't see why people feel the need to ensure certain people get sustained punishment for things they feel are wrong. The only person who should decide what drugs a person is prescribed is their doctor.

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