Should cyclists pay Road Tax & Insurance?

Why should cyclists be alone in paying road tax?

Is this the start of our sticky on getting all the ill-informed questions in one thread?

Have you ever tried to renew your 'Road tax' on www.roadtax.ie ...? MMMMmm give it a try ...

Your post deomonstrates your ignorance.

Only going to address one point

Cyclists cycling too far out from the footpath & impeding traffic flow

This is for our safetly. Motorists are by and large poorly trained, inattentive, have poor observation skills and no idea of the damage a car can do. By cycling "too far out from the footpath" cyclists can reduce the probability of a motorist hitting them "because they didn't see them". Most times a motorist "didn't see" a cyclist its because they didn't look.

tomcollins97 wrote: »

Ah no... I cycle on the roads & use cycle lanes. Drives bad habits irk me as much as cyclists bad habits do when I am driving. I am a responsible cyclist & it really bothers me that there are other out there who have complete disgregard for road users & the rules of the road

I dont believe you.

Please mods, time to start that sticky or editing such threads into one - these threads started again and again are the exact same, for the same reasons - our board space for exchanging actual information about cycling and bikes is being crowded out by mouthy motoring morons.

tomcollins97 wrote: »

How often have you been driving along in your car, only to be forced into slowing down for a cyclist or worse two cyclists, who are hogging the road?

If you get upset over being forced to slow down when driving through a city, you shouldn't be driving imo. Why don't you go start a thread about how traffic lights and schoolchildren should have to pay "road tax".

Wait... shouldnt this be in Sex and Sexuality?

Why are we discussing turning you on anyway?

tomcollins97 wrote: »

How often have you been driving along in your car, only to be forced into slowing down for a cyclist or worse two cyclists, who are hogging the road? Cyclists turn me on or insurance yet they on occasion act as if they own the highway. Cyclist should have a licence to be on the roads & have passed a test to prove they have the necessary road knowledge & can cycle safely.

I've never been forced to slow down a cyclist when out driving. Not once in my entire life. Oh wait, that's because I don't drive

Cyclists are allowed cycle two abreast if it's safe to do so, and they have as much right on the highway as you do. It would appear by complaining in such a manner as to suggest they don't have the same rights as a motorist that you might not have the necessary road knowledge you seem to think is important.

Can I ask if you are a cyclist?

tomcollins97 wrote: »

If a cyclist is insufficiently lit or breaking road traffic rules it should be possible to hand down a fine.

It is possible, and indeed is against the law to break road traffic rules or be insufficiently lit, it's the guards you should moan at about that. Oh, and while you're at it, tell them to fine cars that break red lights or drive dangerously, or people that jay walk (yes, it's an offense), or any of the myriad other offenses that are ignored on a daily basis but our keepers of the police. It's not our fault they don't enforce the law

tomcollins97 wrote: »

My pet hates when it comes to cyclists are:

Insufficient lighting on a bike, especially in the winter months. As a motorist you are obliged to have all lights working, if you are a cyclist you can cycle with none
Lack of reflective clothing – if a motorist hits a cyclist it is their fault, even if the motorist cannot see them
Lack of signalling when turning – cars indicate so why can’t cyclists.
Cyclists coming up on the inside of a car which is indicating to turn left.
Cyclists breaking red lights
Cyclists cycling too far out from the footpath & impeding traffic flow
Cyclists refusing to slow down when the cycle lane runs through a bus stop
Cyclists wearing headphones
Cyclists generally paying no heed to what is around them

A fair list of pet hates. Can I have one too? How about:

Cars that break red lights in order to turn right (as cyclists are usually first away when the lights go green, they can be put in danger)
Cars that pull left without looking into the cycle lane, cutting up, or knocking off cyclists
Cars that over take cyclists, then immediately cut in front of you and turn left
Cars that pull out in front of you as they aren't looking
Drivers on mobile phones who don't look where they're going
SUV Drivers (Don't have anything against them, just don't like their cars)

I know I've pointed out a few things there that's illegal, but if you can, I can.

-in a mood to feed trolls today

tomcollins97 wrote: »

I have seen this but we the number of dark shadows I pass on my way to work very few cyclists seem to take notice. If they had insurance premius to worry about & faced higher payments if accidents happen it might make a difference

Well why the fuk don't you ask them instead of us then, since you know that the people here are safety conscious and well lit?

Or since you're tarring all cyclists with the same brush, why don't you ask yourself that question since you're also a cyclist and by default must also be tarred with that same brush.

Caroline_ie wrote: »

Have you ever tried to renew your turning me on on www.roadtax.ie ...? MMMMmm give it a try ...

High&Low wrote: »

Can I be the 1000th person on boards to point out that NOBODY in Ireland turns me on, however some persons in this country pay motortax. As someone pointed out yesterday motortax is currently based on emmisions, I have no problem with a similar emmisions tax on bikes!!!!

I think it's a winner