Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

fr336 · 22-10-2014 9:56pm

fiftythree wrote: »

fr336 that makes sense, nice melodic tune if noise is doing your head in. haven't heard a lot of air since i think moon safari it was called. getting to that time of night soon where they start drifting off, all the people, one by one, the early birds are prepping for bed already, in a few hours there will be none left.well apart from the crazed lunatics shouting outside but they don't count.
i usually like nights, until it gets to the point where the night and the next morning crash into each other, or one creeps up upon the other.
then i start getting pretty scared about the next day.

Hugs to you

fiftythree · 22-10-2014 10:02pm

fr336 wrote: »

Hugs to you

thanks:)
i'm ok now though, i like late evening and nights until it gets to something resembling morning.
i actually talked to someone tonight!
guy who i live with, wasn't too bad, he seems like a nice guy.
had a laugh about this fly infestation we are having. it isn't funny, but it can be.
how are you doing? are you any less on edge?
hope so

fr336 · 22-10-2014 10:03pm

fiftythree wrote: »

thanks:)
i'm ok now though, i like late evening and nights until it gets to something resembling morning.
i actually talked to someone tonight!
guy who i live with, wasn't too bad, he seems like a nice guy.
had a laugh about this fly infestation we are having. it isn't funny, but it can be.
how are you doing? are you any less on edge?
hope so

Still too early for me :pac:

fiftythree · 22-10-2014 10:09pm

fr336 wrote: »

Still too early for me :pac:

seriously, some people are actually tucked up now:eek:
damn flies. having said that they must have been pretty anxious.
there's piles of them lying dead on all the window sills.
things must've been trying to get out and died in the process.

Killer_banana · 23-10-2014 2:27am

shezer wrote: »

How are ya today Killer Banana?

Good enough to manage to go to work. I was alright until I went on break and then all the bad thoughts came back. I was on food which takes the most concentration which helped but I started to slip up a bit after that and had to go to the bathroom at one point because I was about to have a panic attack. One of my co-workers recently broke up with his girlfriend and is temporarily living in the flat above where we work and he knew I'd been depressed lately so told me I could come up after if I wanted. I just spent the last three hours pouring my heart out to him, telling him everything, things I never told anyone before and he just listened and I just feel so peaceful and calm now. Not happy, it'll be a long time before that happens but better, so much better. He's been there himself, he gets it. I've only known him a few months but he's already one of my closest friends, I'm truly blessed for the people I have in my life.

But that's enough gushing from me, how are you Shezer?

cloud493 · 23-10-2014 8:13am

Theres no point of me going into college today. I did this course last year so I know what we're doing already so its boring, I have all the assignment briefs so I can work from home, etc.

I know thats actually quite logical but I still feel bad about not going in.

NegativeCreep · 23-10-2014 10:39am

Anyone been on inderal for anxiety? It's a beta-blocker. Just got a prescription for it there.

fr336 · 23-10-2014 11:30am

Feel like I'm going to throw up, so so shivery, so weak...ahh good day....

ETA: Oh and almost certainly caused by a higher than usual few days of anxiety.

fr336 · 23-10-2014 12:14pm

When someone knocks a door, I feel like my heart's going to pop out of my chest :eek:

guitarzero · 23-10-2014 1:04pm

Curious about ppls experience of psychotherapy. I've had my 4th session yesterday, feel I'm going in circles a bit now. I'm still putting faith in it but not experiencing any results through this process, not yet anyway. Hmmm...

northgirl · 23-10-2014 1:45pm

guitarzero wrote: »

Curious about ppls experience of psychotherapy. I've had my 4th session yesterday, feel I'm going in circles a bit now. I'm still putting faith in it but not experiencing any results through this process, not yet anyway. Hmmm...

I've just had my 8th session. I found them better at the beginning but I think that equates to a sense of initial relief whereas the latter sessions are somewhat harder work.

I think it's early days so am going to try and stick with it a while anyway, this is the first counsellor/psychotherapist I've built some form of connection with and it seems to be helping a bit anyway.

Killer_banana · 23-10-2014 1:50pm

shezer wrote: »

That's great to hear. A problem shared is a problem halved.

I'm alright now. A weekend of festivities to look forward to.........anxiously :P. I'm just trying to focus on each day as it comes. I get way too excited about events in advance and I end up doing nothing leading up.

I'm the same. I find focusing on the minutae of day to day tasks and just getting through the day helps with both my anxiety and my depression. It can be hard to do that sometimes though

fr336 wrote: »

Feel like I'm going to throw up, so so shivery, so weak...ahh good day....

ETA: Oh and almost certainly caused by a higher than usual few days of anxiety.

Ugh no the feeling. Had the pleasure of seeing my breakfast in reverse today. Have no appetite and when I do eat my stomach is in such a not it normally comes back up again. *sigh*

fr336 · 23-10-2014 1:55pm

Killer_banana wrote: »

Ugh no the feeling. Had the pleasure of seeing my breakfast in reverse today. Have no appetite and when I do eat my stomach is in such a not it normally comes back up again. *sigh*

Hope you're 100% (at least in terms of sickness) asap.

fiftythree · 23-10-2014 3:49pm

my mother is going into hospital. really should go see her, don't know how serious it is.
but in a pretty bad state myself. no energy and very depressed feeling.
but she can't know that, was trying to get myself together, one of the reasons is that her
health was bad for a while and i wanted to be stronger in case anything happened.
didn't get myself together in time. i will hear soon what is happening.

fr336 · 23-10-2014 7:53pm

fiftythree wrote: »

my mother is going into hospital. really should go see her, don't know how serious it is.
but in a pretty bad state myself. no energy and very depressed feeling.
but she can't know that, was trying to get myself together, one of the reasons is that her
health was bad for a while and i wanted to be stronger in case anything happened.
didn't get myself together in time. i will hear soon what is happening.

So sorry fifty

fiftythree · 23-10-2014 8:00pm

fr336 wrote: »

So sorry fifty

thanks fr336, times like this wish i had a car, bloody annoyed with self for letting myself get into a bad state, other people might depend on me sometime.
cant get there on public transport now i will try get there tomorrow to the hosp on buses.
she been in hospital recent and came out ok so i'm hoping not too serious but
still very worried.

fiftythree · 23-10-2014 11:23pm

i'm having a bad day, hope you are all ok tonight guys.

fr336 · 23-10-2014 11:26pm

Hugs to you fifty. I've got a really bad case of flu I think now (well bad for me) and I'd take anxiety over this any day

Once I'm over this I'm going to batter the hell out of all anxiety and live my life to full potential.

fiftythree · 23-10-2014 11:31pm

fr336 wrote: »

Hugs to you fifty. I've got a really bad case of flu I think now (well bad for me) and I'd take anxiety over this any day Once I'm over this I'm going to batter the hell out of all anxiety and live my life to full potential.

thanks flightplan,
think i've been a bit cold-y myself last few days. i'm convinced the filthy fly infestation didn't help.they're full of disease them flies.
yuk.
great, you get out of that flu and get back to life.
i'm not sure what will happen tomorrow but i'm not looking forward to it.
not at all.

Call Me Jimmy · 23-10-2014 11:33pm

ah not doin great. Got a free gaff for two nights and usually I'd defo have some sort of mini-rave but feel too cut off from life to even bother.

I haven't looked in the mirror in about 1 week which has happened kind of accidentally, but incidentally it's probably the longest I've ever gone without doing so. Felt like it was having a good effect yesterday but I know the next time I do look will be a nightmare.

fiftythree · 23-10-2014 11:36pm

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

ah not doin great. Got a free gaff for two nights and usually I'd defo have some sort of mini-rave but feel too cut off from life to even bother.

I haven't looked in the mirror in about 1 week which has happened kind of accidentally, but incidentally it's probably the longest I've ever gone without doing so. Felt like it was having a good effect yesterday but I know the next time I do look will be a nightmare.

have that mini rave jimmy. could be fun!
and avoid mirrors at all times!
they are terrible at lying.

fr336 · 23-10-2014 11:36pm

fiftythree wrote: »

thanks flightplan,
think i've been a bit cold-y myself last few days. i'm convinced the filthy fly infestation didn't help.they're full of disease them flies.
yuk.
great, you get out of that flu and get back to life.
i'm not sure what will happen tomorrow but i'm not looking forward to it.
not at all.

fifty

(Just so you know, I always spell people's names in the way they've signed up

Can make it a capital F if you like?

)

Are there no options on the table to make things better? I apologise for not remember the ins and outs of your case, my memory is very random with the anxiety I can remember silly things as sharp as anything but then when there's a pressure to remember I fail

It's all in there I'm sure..it's just the memory recall / mental energy more than anything.

fiftythree · 23-10-2014 11:41pm

fr336 wrote: »

fifty (Just so you know, I always spell people's names in the way they've signed up Can make it a capital F if you like? )

Are there no options on the table to make things better? I apologise for not remember the ins and outs of your case, my memory is very random with the anxiety I can remember silly things as sharp as anything but then when there's a pressure to remember I fail It's all in there I'm sure..it's just the memory recall / mental energy more than anything.

thanks fr336, there is an option to make things better for me, but now my mother is ill again think i might have to go home for a bit again.
i don't mind if i could help but i know soon i will leave again like before.
long story, will just try to get thoughts together tonight.

ps i don't mind what i get called!just a random username

fr336 · 23-10-2014 11:44pm

fiftythree wrote: »

thanks fr336, there is an option to make things better for me, but now my mother is ill again think i might have to go home for a bit again.
i don't mind if i could help but i know soon i will leave again like before.
long story, will just try to get thoughts together tonight.

ps i don't mind what i get called!just a random username

Don't think of the past or present, it's all about the future. I know this is easier said than done especially with your mum, sorry

fiftythree · 23-10-2014 11:46pm

fr336 wrote: »

Don't think of the past or present, it's all about the future. I know this is easier said than done especially with your mum, sorry

i know, trying my best to think on the future, keep ending
up in the past though. but will try to get more alert and think on a way to link both.successfully.there is always a way.

NegativeCreep · 24-10-2014 4:03am

Ecstasy come down. This will work wonders for my anxiety in the morning... not. Why do I do this to myself??

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 9:43am

Morning everyone.

Went to interview yesterday

, however I turned up in the wrong place

.
After a bit of panic and brisk walking across the city I arrived at the place all sweaty with fogged up glasses.
Interview begins pretty much straight away. I apologize for disheveled state and we begin. He didn't even offer me a glass of water :mad:

Anyway, once the sweat settled I think it went OK, and even if I dont get the job this is a step I have put off for about 4 years now.

I will treat myself to some drinks tonight....gotta have a few alone before I join friends in town

. Will try limit that to 4 bottles

Dont wanna say I'm turning a corner, but baby steps will work for me.

Hope everyone enjoys their long weekend

ETA: didn't reply yesterday as I slept from 2 until 8pm. Then watched TV and went to bed at 10. Must have emotionally drained myself.

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 9:44am

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Ecstasy come down. This will work wonders for my anxiety in the morning... not. Why do I do this to myself??

Best of luck with that.

Laois6556 · 24-10-2014 5:05pm

Does anyone else get mood swings. Like sometimes you can actually feel quite happy, sometimes sad, a frustrated/angry type mood, worried, regretful etc. I've just been on cymbalta a short while and hopefully that sorts it out but I'm really disapointed in myself to be back on medication when I thought I was able to get on without it. The feeling of failure isn't nice.
Then when I think of others in this World who are worse off, starving children, war, disease etc. What am I complaining about? We get too consumed with our own little worries when it's really not all that bad. Just cop on and get on with it or get out.

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 5:57pm

Laois6556 wrote: »

Does anyone else get mood swings. Like sometimes you can actually feel quite happy, sometimes sad, a frustrated/angry type mood, worried, regretful etc. I've just been on cymbalta a short while and hopefully that sorts it out but I'm really disapointed in myself to be back on medication when I thought I was able to get on without it. The feeling of failure isn't nice.
Then when I think of others in this World who are worse off, starving children, war, disease etc. What am I complaining about? We get too consumed with our own little worries when it's really not all that bad. Just cop on and get on with it or get out.

1st world problems :P

What I get, I dont know if they're mood swings. Its just sometimes my anxiety sort of disappears and I can actually enjoy myself.
Sometimes lying in bed is when I get down, worried, etc thinking bout where my life is going. Thats not a nice place to be.

With my anxiety I cannot function in front of some people (my close friends) cos I know they know I'm anxious and then I get paranoid about what they may be thinking about me.

I think I may have mild bi-polar along with my anxiety. Not huge mood swings but certainly there are times of levity along with most times of anxiety.

Re your meds: I'm not on that so cant offer any advice

Laois6556 · 24-10-2014 6:03pm

cookie24 wrote: »

1st world problems :P

What I get, I dont know if they're mood swings. Its just sometimes my anxiety sort of disappears and I can actually enjoy myself.
Sometimes lying in bed is when I get down, worried, etc thinking bout where my life is going. Thats not a nice place to be.

With my anxiety I cannot function in front of some people (my close friends) cos I know they know I'm anxious and then I get paranoid about what they may be thinking about me.

I think I may have mild bi-polar along with my anxiety. Not huge mood swings but certainly there are times of levity along with most times of anxiety.

Re your meds: I'm not on that so cant offer any advice

Yeah it's when there's too much time to think that the anxiety grows. Well sometimes when there's no time to think the anxiety grows also. No easy solution to our first World problems.

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 6:12pm

Laois6556 wrote: »

Yeah it's when there's too much time to think that the anxiety grows. Well sometimes when there's no time to think the anxiety grows also. No easy solution to our first World problems.

The thing thats gets me the most (start sweating, shaking, blushing, etc) is when I'm introduced to someone in a pub and I can sense my friends looking to see how I'll react.
Its that vicious circle.....they're looking at me, I get anxious, anxiety symptoms get worse, now they're looking at me making a fool of myself, anxiety gets worse.
And thats why I avoid those situations unless I'm at least mildly drunk

kronsington · 24-10-2014 6:15pm

One thing I have a problem with is my manner or how others perceive me. Obviously I am anxious but I'm civil and pleasant around others. But recently I've been observing others in how they react to me, a lot of comments in the vein of "calm down" "why are you angry" etc.. I don't understand it. I'm definitely withdrawn and quiet at times in groups, maybe it comes across as antisocial or aloof. A friend said to me I had an "explosive temper" growing up, which I thought was extremely unfair and inaccurate. Bar a few isolate incidents I would rarely lose my temper. I'm very sarcastic and can be very cutting and curt with comments and while I don't mean any malice by it, it had given me food for thought

Laois6556 · 24-10-2014 6:20pm

cookie24 wrote: »

The thing thats gets me the most (start sweating, shaking, blushing, etc) is when I'm introduced to someone in a pub and I can sense my friends looking to see how I'll react.
Its that vicious circle.....they're looking at me, I get anxious, anxiety symptoms get worse, now they're looking at me making a fool of myself, anxiety gets worse.
And thats why I avoid those situations unless I'm at least mildly drunk

Yeah, thinking about what others are thinking is a major problem for everyone with anxiety. Most of the time others aren't thinking about us at all, they're focused on themselves but when in the moment you don't think like that.
It's the inner voice that we must defeat, the little bollox is always getting us into trouble. If we could tell him to shut up and let our real selves shine then we would win. He's not easy to kill though.

br27 · 24-10-2014 7:02pm

If you get anxious about talking to people when you get into a conversation you shouldn't care what people then you won't care how they react to you if people can't see that a person is obviously anxious and can't make you feel comfortable then there obviously not worth your time

GreenwayM · 24-10-2014 7:05pm

Hi All:

Is this Thread for Social Phobia as well?

Kind Regards

Miriam

Laois6556 · 24-10-2014 7:10pm

GreenwayM wrote: »

Hi All:

Is this Thread for Social Phobia as well?

Kind Regards

Miriam

Hi, everyone's welcome! Plenty of us have social anxiety.

br27 · 24-10-2014 7:13pm

plenty of us do have social anxiety but really does the worrying about what people think change the outcome of a conversation if the person who you are talking to can't make you feel comfortable then there not worth talking to

GreenwayM · 24-10-2014 7:18pm

I only discovered / put a name on my condition 3-4 Years ago . . .

Big Relief but wondering ( as there seem ) to be conflicting opinions . . Is it curable? What is most effective . .

Not on Meds - Doc said that I am better off not to start . . Has caused me drink problems in the past

br27 · 24-10-2014 7:23pm

the best way to cure it is to start believing in yourself and getting confident in your own skin try to do things out of your comfort zone if you try and talk to people and it turns into a embarrassing moment forget about it but give yours some praise for trying don't beat yourself up nobody is perfect but you putting people up on pedestal isn't right as people aren't as great as they seem or aren't any better than you

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 7:26pm

GreenwayM wrote: »

I only discovered / put a name on my condition 3-4 Years ago . . .

Big Relief but wondering ( as there seem ) to be conflicting opinions . . Is it curable? What is most effective . .

Not on Meds - Doc said that I am better off not to start . . Has caused me drink problems in the past

my process...
went to GP and got prozac. It did nothing and eventually was referred to psych.

he kept me on prozac along with CBT. Did nothing.

Next came hypnotherapty. Did nothing really.

Eventually got prescribed valium and anafril, and soon lithium. They seem to be working for me.

Best of luck

ETA: also led me to drink a lot in any social setting

br27 · 24-10-2014 7:29pm

Do you not think that taking tablets and going to the doctor for social anxiety is just reminding you that you have it everyday you take a tablet you are telling yourself you have it wouldn't it just be better for you to live your life without tablets and try and do what makes you happy

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 7:32pm

br27 wrote: »

Do you not think that taking tablets and going to the doctor for social anxiety is just reminding you that you have it everyday you take a tablet you are telling yourself you have it wouldn't it just be better for you to live your life without tablets and try and do what makes you happy

Not for me. Caused me not going to college and failing a masters. Regardless of what I told myself and how irrational I know the anxiety is, it was still there holding me back.

Meds, for me, certainly seem to be working. Different for everyone I suppose.

Perhaps I just have a huge ego and am always concerned about what people are thinking about me, even though I know they're not. Irrational but there you go

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 7:36pm

What I am hoping for is to take the meds until I feel I can cope without them. Once I get a job my confidence will grow. Meeting new people will also grow my confidence.

I want to start attending public speaking classes to also grow my confidence in front of people. There was no chance of that without meds. Once I can talk in front of more than 4 people I will phase out the meds.

GreenwayM · 24-10-2014 7:37pm

Yes, I would definitely say that I have completely underachieved in my life - professionally and personally . .

I live with my 14 Year Old Daughter and, every day, I pray that she will not be afflicted with the scourge that is SA

I work mostly alone ( over the phone etc. ) - not nice . . . Family Occasions a nightmare - I mainly avoid . . .

Are meds meant for long term use or as a short term help?

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 7:40pm

GreenwayM wrote: »

Yes, I would definitely say that I have completely underachieved in my life - professionally and personally . .

I live with my 14 Year Old Daughter and, every day, I pray that she will not be afflicted with the scourge that is SA

I work mostly alone ( over the phone etc. ) - not nice . . . Family Occasions a nightmare - I mainly avoid . . .

Are meds meant for long term use or as a short term help?

Re the meds: not too sure. I'm sure it depends on circumstance.

I would recommend to get your daughter involved in debating or something that involves speaking in front of people. Thats where my anxiety stems from. Even avoided a debate when I was 14, and downhill from there.

br27 · 24-10-2014 7:42pm

cookie24 wrote: »

What I am hoping for is to take the meds until I feel I can cope without them. Once I get a job my confidence will grow. Meeting new people will also grow my confidence.

I want to start attending public speaking classes to also grow my confidence in front of people. There was no chance of that without meds. Once I can talk in front of more than 4 people I will phase out the meds.

Thats good to hear getting a job will definitely help lift your confidence learn to love yourself and not care what people think just talk to people that make you happy and you feel comfortable talking to

br27 · 24-10-2014 7:44pm

GreenwayM wrote: »

Yes, I would definitely say that I have completely underachieved in my life - professionally and personally . .

I live with my 14 Year Old Daughter and, every day, I pray that she will not be afflicted with the scourge that is SA

I work mostly alone ( over the phone etc. ) - not nice . . . Family Occasions a nightmare - I mainly avoid . . .

Are meds meant for long term use or as a short term help?

why do you focus on the past why do you focus on what you haven't done in your life focus on the future and try to achieve your goals it doesn't matter your age or what you have done in your past just be positive about the future

cookie24 · 24-10-2014 7:45pm

br27 wrote: »

Thats good to hear getting a job will definitely help lift your confidence learn to love yourself and not care what people think just talk to people that make you happy and you feel comfortable talking to

I tried that before...going out with the attitude 'duck this, I dont care about these people think, or what they think about me'. Didn't work. Inner voice got the better of me....'they do care, look at them judging you'

br27 · 24-10-2014 7:47pm

cookie24 wrote: »

Not for me. Caused me not going to college and failing a masters. Regardless of what I told myself and how irrational I know the anxiety is, it was still there holding me back.

Meds, for me, certainly seem to be working. Different for everyone I suppose.

Perhaps I just have a huge ego and am always concerned about what people are thinking about me, even though I know they're not. Irrational but there you go

perhaps you do have a big ego can i ask what were you studying at college

Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

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