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The Chillout Zone (Off-Topic Thread)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Whispered wrote: »
    Little Isabella must be the most loved hamster in the world! Her pics make me want a hammy and I know one looking for a home. Not sure I could dedicate the time to it though, considering how much your lady seems to thrive on attention.

    Anybody any nice plans with their pets today? K is off doing something boyish today, left at 6.30am so today the boys and I plan to do nothing but this:

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    It's actually not all that time consuming. She gets out for maybe 30 minutes a day, but you can leave her to her own devices in her ball for a lot of that. Isabella is a bit unusual in the amount of human contact she likes. A lot of the time we bring her into the hallway where we can close off doors and she can free range while we read or surf the net. I'll forget she's even out until I feel her climbing up my leg and ill look and there she is, just sitting there grooming!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Whispered wrote: »

    Anybody any nice plans with their pets today? K is off doing something boyish today, left at 6.30am so today the boys and I plan to do nothing but this:

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    Busy morning so far - up with dogs at 6:30, back to sleep for a couple of hours, out for quick walk with Bailey, took Lucy to puppy school, came home and set up laptop to spy on Lucy while I went back up to the training center with Bailey as one of his fav's is back from maternity leave and his other fav was there too - I wanted to see his reaction to being back up there after a couple of months off - he was delighted to see them of course and cried because we weren't going in :rolleyes::p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    I was at an EGAR fundraiser today helping out at the dog show. Was so much fun, I judged some of the classes. Met a boardsie there but was so busy didn't get a chance to introduce myself.

    Ozzzie is wrecked!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭honerbright


    Coming home from work has now become a game of 'how many shoes will Poppy have located and dragged around the house today?'. No matter where we hide them and how many doors between her and the shoes she finds them. Quite magical really. Today she also found a soft toy and pulled the eyes off it. She has a thing for eyes on toys :rolleyes:
    She reminds me so much of the dog I grew up with: That dog had a vendetta against mousepads. No matter how high or how hidden they were we came home to a ripped one every single day.

    Our wee stray came in the house the other day and then legged it again. Such a lovely wee cat, with a massive personality. Currently calling him/her Sylbey (I don't even know, it started off as Sylvester :pac: ). Cinnamon and Sylbey are still mental about each other, they stand up on their back legs and touch paws.

    Poppy will be 1 on the weekend, time is flying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Tranceypoo


    toadfly wrote: »
    I was at an EGAR fundraiser today helping out at the dog show. Was so much fun, I judged some of the classes. Met a boardsie there but was so busy didn't get a chance to introduce myself.

    Ozzzie is wrecked!

    I was there too! Our Lily won FIRST PRIZE in the best rescue dog category (have to put it in caps cos we're so flippin chuffed!!) Our Archie got 3rd in the golden oldie (there were only 3...!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    Tranceypoo wrote: »
    I was there too! Our Lily won FIRST PRIZE in the best rescue dog category (have to put it in caps cos we're so flippin chuffed!!) Our Archie got 3rd in the golden oldie (there were only 3...!!)

    You might have been who I was talking about! I was the one on registration!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Dave_Power


    I came home today from work and my 8 week old kitten and my 2 year old tom cat were fast asleep cuddled up against each other, I introduced the kitten to him 2 weeks ago and he hated her!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    toadfly wrote: »
    You might have been who I was talking about! I was the one on registration!:D

    FIX!!!! ;);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Grrr. Burst water main down the road and haven't had water all day and still don't. Have been collecting rainwater from the showers for the doggies in every available bucket.

    It's amazing what you can't do. Have a shower, mop the floor, wash your hands when you've done food, wash bowls...and as (bad) luck would have it one of the dogs managed to stand in a poo this morning (or as it looked like, he went sliding into it cos it was all up his leg:() so I was baby wiping him to conserve the meagre supplies we had.

    Luckily enough my neighbour has a well so as soon as he was up (about 4 hours after I got up) he started ferrying me in buckets and bottles so I could have a cuppa:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    Grrr. Burst water main down the road and haven't had water all day and still don't. Have been collecting rainwater from the showers for the doggies in every available bucket.

    It's amazing what you can't do. Have a shower, mop the floor, wash your hands when you've done food, wash bowls...and as (bad) luck would have it one of the dogs managed to stand in a poo this morning (or as it looked like, he went sliding into it cos it was all up his leg:() so I was baby wiping him to conserve the meagre supplies we had.

    Luckily enough my neighbour has a well so as soon as he was up (about 4 hours after I got up) he started ferrying me in buckets and bottles so I could have a cuppa:)

    Here here for good neighbours, they are a rare commodity nowadays:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    brrabus wrote: »
    Here here for good neighbours, they are a rare commodity nowadays:)

    My neighbour is brilliant. I really don't know what we would do without him, at this stage he's like family and we've only lived here 8 years. We're really lucky to have him. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    Dave_Power wrote: »
    I came home today from work and my 8 week old kitten and my 2 year old tom cat were fast asleep cuddled up against each other, I introduced the kitten to him 2 weeks ago and he hated her!!

    I got a new kitten on Wednesday and so far my olden kitten still hasnt taken to her completely. Praying for the day I find them cuddled up together! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    tk123 wrote: »
    FIX!!!! ;);)

    I didn't judge that one cos I knew a few in it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    toadfly wrote: »
    I didn't judge that one cos I knew a few in it!

    :). There's a dog show today in Cloughran for one of the Dublin recuses! I'm very tempted to take Lucy for socialisation even though she's not officially supposed to be out until next week - she had her second vaccination (well third due to a mix up) on fri...It's technically ok for her to be around vaccinated dogs so has met my friends dogs and puppies at class but this would be a nice sized crowd, lots of other dogs and people for her to meet etc. Amd of course enter her in the puppy show :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    To enter her in the puppy show she'd have to be put on the ground. I would honestly not recommend taking an unvaccinated pup to such a big event. Sorry, just re-read, she has had all her vaccines, just waiting for the 'kick in period' to be over. If she's had 3, when did she have her 2nd?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    muddypaws wrote: »
    To enter her in the puppy show she'd have to be put on the ground. I would honestly not recommend taking an unvaccinated pup to such a big event. Sorry, just re-read, she has had all her vaccines, just waiting for the 'kick in period' to be over. If she's had 3, when did she have her 2nd?

    Yeah didn't bother in the end. She's quite confident already so I don't think waiting another week will do any any harm or was worth the risk - she gave another pup 'the face' at puppy class yesterday lol because he was growling at her lol! :p She had her final one on Friday - the vet loved her and was petting her for AGES before during and after the vaccination - no wonder the appointments are always running late!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭mymo


    I'm HOME!!!
    Just spent a week in London with family, but missed our furry family, off to do the pic ups shortly, lots of cuddles today!
    So weird last night when we got home, only the rats stayed home, daughters friend looked after them well, the fat little piggies barely said hello at first :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Swapped out Isabella's big wooden wheel with her 'spare' big plastic one. We bought it for when she needed to on into boardin etc. it's much lighter, and soon as it went it she started running! So I reckon her old wheel was too heavy for her. She seemed delighted with herself yesterday evening, so that's good...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭honerbright


    Poppy's decided we're having christmas in August. Came home to beads and bobbles all over the house. Where she does be finding this stuff I don't even know!

    It's her 1st birthday on the weekend, does anyone know fo any doggy cake recipes? (Is there even such a thing?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    We've an artificial Christmas tree in the cupboard under the stairs. Every year it gets harder to patch the box up as Jazzy tears at the cardboard. He loves to sleep on it and we can hear him in there tearing the box to shreds from time to time. He does love to sleep under the tree when it's up. We're never having a real one again after the incident a few years ago.

    The first Christmas Felix was with us we bought a real Christmas tree, he was obsessed with it and kept trying to get into it. We thought he was just fascinated with the baubles, until a big insect flew out of it a few days later:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:. Obviously he could hear it in the tree. How're Cinnamon and Feline friend getting on?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭honerbright


    Ohhh yuck :( I hate that about real christmas trees. They smell so nice but the earwigs and bugs just aren't worth it! We couldn't have a christmas tree last year, Cinnamon keeps climbing them and pulling them over and un-decorating it and she'd wake up up throwing baubles around the house :P

    Cinnamon and Syllbey are still mad as ever about each other. They got to meet yesterday from a tiny distance with Cinnamon on her harness. Syllbeys come in the house 3 times for food but still runs if we get too close, but at least we're getting somewhere!
    I've been opening the front door and just sitting on the stairs reading and she curls up on the door mat and watches me.

    Hoping to not have to resort to the trapping option and get her to the vets soon for her health checks so her and Cinnamon can meet for real. I'm trying not to get attached but it's so hard, she's so very playful and kittenlike and just the biggest personality.

    How's Jazzys tail? Did the lump go completely away in the end?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I doubt you'll need the trap, it sounds as though it's just a matter of time before puss moves indoors permanently. Jazzy's tail is fine now, he's not happy about Toby sleeping on the other sofa. He's at the opposite end to where Jazzy used to sleep but Jazzy won't share, he just stands on his back legs, whacks him on the head and runs out of the room.

    I'm totally hacked off with things today. Oscar has been going to my parents garden and getting fed there, they live nearby and their cats don't
    chase him off. They said they'd trap him in their garden last week/weekend, then changed their minds after I got the trap:rolleyes: So I've been trying to get him here and of course he hasn't come back because despite me telling them not to feed him, they have of course been feeding him. The trap has to go back tomorrow and there's no point in borrowing it a 4th time.

    Honestly sometimes I feel like I was switched at birth:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    I'm after coming home from being away with community games for the weekend, And I have discovered that my dad has gotten all 3 cats to happily sleep in the same room together! I don't know how he did it but peach cream and dude are now happy out all sleeping together in the utility room! Have to say it's so much easier putting them to bed now they are all in the same room!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Probably a fluke but this morning Lucy was quiet in her crate the whole time I was upstairs getting a shower and dressed and having a snooze when I came back down! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Toby is still following me like a little shadow. He has a new quirk this week, whenever I go into the bathroom he comes with me, and gets into the bathroom sink for a drink of water. Then he jumps down and goes to lay down on the landing for a sleep. I think he thinks I'm going to stay in the bathroom to sleep or something.

    The weird thing is if it's during the day and I'm doing something in the bedroom he settles down happily on the landing for a sleep. But when we're going to bed at night we have to shut the bedroom door or he wants on to the bed, and Felix would tear him to bits if he found him in our room. At least now he only cries for a few minutes then settles, he used to wander around the house meowing for hours on and off during the night.

    He's still very insecure and will follow me or my husband around the house from room to room when we leave the living room. Hopefully he'll feel more settled and confident soon. He's in the living room all day and on the landing when we're in bed. I think he's afraid we'll abandon him:(


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭angeldaisy


    Omg Tara was like a weasel all day today, no idea what was wrong with her. She's whined to go out and whined to come in, cried for her toys with the sqeaks ( restricted!!) Cried when she got them, they send her bananas, cried playing with them and when they were gone.

    Made the strangest noises all evening, cross between a cry, whine and a bark, thank god she's settled down now and is fast asleep.

    Wouldn't mind as much but she had a ball playing in the fields today and knackered herself out, she is usually chilled out after a walk -not today!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    The problem of lost and abandoned dogs is widespread but two students in Chile decided to bring this to the attention of people, if even for one day, some of these dogs were noticed. How many awws will you be saying during the video, really sweet.

    http://vimeo.com/54345851

    http://www.goodnet.org/articles/1229


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    I'm fostering a young husky for the NWSPCA at the moment, he had a fractured hip, fractured back leg and 4 broken toes on his front leg. Trying to keep him quiet has been interesting. Went to the vet this morning, and he's booked in to have the pin removed from his back leg next Thursday, happy days.

    Zebo is his name, and he has his own facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Zebos-Diaries/229859000498326?bookmark_t=page


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    I hope you got to Lidl, somebody wants their peanut butter:D

    Poor fella, he sounds like a complete rascal though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Excited, excited. Going to look at a new car tonight. Well, not new but at least this one will be mine! Himself confiscated my car at the beginning of the year when it was due it's NCT, valeted, serviced and put it through NCT, then refused to give it back to me and sold it. (I begrudgingly agreed as it had been COVERED in dog hair) He gave me the use of a small van that he says makes me look like Postman Pat heading around in the little red van, but with dogs rather than a cat:D. The plan was always to get me something more suitable for the dogs. Fingers crossed it's in good nick and mechanically sound.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    I hope you got to Lidl, somebody wants their peanut butter:D

    Poor fella, he sounds like a complete rascal though!

    I was going to buy some from a small local shop, but it was more than double the Lidl price, so he had to wait, but he's had some today now, and he's happy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Excited, excited. Going to look at a new car tonight. Well, not new but at least this one will be mine! Himself confiscated my car at the beginning of the year when it was due it's NCT, valeted, serviced and put it through NCT, then refused to give it back to me and sold it. (I begrudgingly agreed as it had been COVERED in dog hair) He gave me the use of a small van that he says makes me look like Postman Pat heading around in the little red van, but with dogs rather than a cat:D. The plan was always to get me something more suitable for the dogs. Fingers crossed it's in good nick and mechanically sound.

    Oh what are you getting?!?!? I'm hoping to get a new car soon too because my jeep just costs too much to tax and run - going to downsize a little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    tk123 wrote: »
    Oh what are you getting?!?!? I'm hoping to get a new car soon too because my jeep just costs too much to tax and run - going to downsize a little.

    :D:D
    Hopefully a jeep!! Ha Ha!

    It's a land rover discovery but it's commercial tax (only around €350 pa as opposed to about €1200 if it was a seated jeep:eek:) as there's only front seats and HUGE room in the back for loads of crates and dogs. MPG isn't too bad either and I really don't do that many miles, literally to the beach and back, up to the town and back and the odd few trips to Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Nice :D I'm buying mine out of my redundancy so it's tecnically free haha ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    My poor lamp cat gets to go on crate rest tonight! Normally all 3 will sleep in the utility together (well since last Friday!) but Dude is terrified of the lamp walking around the house and keeps puffing up at him, it's hilarious, but for Creams sake he gets the crate tonight so the others won't bully him!

    Edit: I've decided against the crate, don't like be thought of him unsupervised for the night so he's sleeping with me instead :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    @SillyMangoX - LOFL, can just picture it

    While on here, just wondering if anyone has noticed the number of wasps around. Was stung on the toe earlier today, treating it with Doctor Burts but it is still paining.

    Have a composter at the side of the house which is used by myself and three other households. Went to put stuff in it the other day and noticed numerous wasps around so legged it. Had the same experience at the bottle bank, bottle got promptly put back in car, not messing with those wasps.

    Have just put a layer of newspaper in the composter and showered it will water and a sprinkle of washing powder. Going to have a word with all those who use the composter to stop putting any fruit in until end of September. Has anyone got any other tips?

    Also, I am trying to source a Waspinator ASAP to put up in garden. I know that I can buy them over the internet (found them on internet after desperate searches today for remedies) but really would like to buy one tomorrow. Anybody got any idea who sells them? The wasps are driving me demented, have to keep doors closed and my cats are protesting, who needs a gym when you have to get up so much to open doors to my demanding cats.

    http://ecostore.ie/new-products/the-waspinator-twin-pack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Wasps are EVERYWHERE. They are driving me mad. I put one of the dogs in the crate yesterday for his dinner, went to take him out when he was finished and he had his nose up against the door to get out - I went to lift the top latch and there was a wasp on it, about an inch from the dogs nose, I nearly died. So then I had to get a teatowel to try and open the crate, then get my flyswatter and kill the evil wasp!

    Today I was in the garden and we have fruit trees. In one apple on the ground there was 3 wasps eating away. I need to get some kind of a belt that I can hang my flyswatter out of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Layinghen


    Your right wasps are everywhere. Did not notice them that much up until now. I am terrified the JRT who is a great fan of eating flies will get one. I presume she could be stung by them just like a human.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    My neighbours dog is a JRT and he also does this, keeps chasing them and snapping at them. He has been stung a few times but does not learn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Layinghen


    That's why I am like a lunatic trying to get to the wasps before she does, I know she will learn nothing if she is stung. She thinks I am a very mean Mummy spoiling all her fun:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    Oz tried to eat one the other day, luckily I got to it before he did. Little fecker :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Somebody smashed the wasps nest in our park during the winter so no probs there BUT the other park we go to at the weekend for longer walks has a nest just beside where we go down to a stream that the dogs play in :( I spoke to one of the gardeners last year when Bailey got attacked by a swarm of them (but was fine) and he said they weren't allowed touch the nests because of biodiversity rules. All the could do was put up a sign - which was pulled down and broken :mad: Lucy got stung a few weeks ago so is a bit wary of them - Bailey tries to bite them! We were lucky last time he did that the he didn't end up in the vets so not taking any chances!
    Can't wait to get home - feel like I'm getting a tummy bug or fighting something off since early yesterday morning. I'm fine if I keep eating/snacking otherwise getting bad pains in my tummy! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭bluecherry74


    I just got my vegetable garden fenced off so the dogs can't get in there. Jess spend most of yesterday evening walking along the fence boundary and scratching at it to get in. I feel a bit guilty for taking away part of their garden, but Henry kept climbing up on to the raised beds and eating things (including non-edible foliage!) so I had to do it. The plus side is that I can let the hens wander around the veg patch all evening without supervising them and the dogs.

    Hope you're feeling better TK. Coming down with a bug just in time for the weekend is not a good plan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,052 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    GAH still sicky..
    Anyhoos a fun story lol

    A dog who goes to hydro - very friendly and easy going except for his enemy the paper man. Owner was taking him out the other day and didn't realize the guy was at the door(!).. The dog ended up grabbing his tracksuit bottoms and pulling them off so he was left in his boxers lol! :p She had to give the guy a pair of her OH's bottoms and €50 lol :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭SillyMangoX


    Very poor pic but I thought it was funny, Dude was grooming Cream who was not very impressed so he pounced which looked utterly hilarious in the lamp!! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    Very poor pic but I thought it was funny, Dude was grooming Cream who was not very impressed so he pounced which looked utterly hilarious in the lamp!! :pac:

    Lol, he looks like he is dancing. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    brrabus wrote: »
    @SillyMangoX - LOFL, can just picture it

    While on here, just wondering if anyone has noticed the number of wasps around. Was stung on the toe earlier today, treating it with Doctor Burts but it is still paining.

    Have a composter at the side of the house which is used by myself and three other households. Went to put stuff in it the other day and noticed numerous wasps around so legged it. Had the same experience at the bottle bank, bottle got promptly put back in car, not messing with those wasps.

    Have just put a layer of newspaper in the composter and showered it will water and a sprinkle of washing powder. Going to have a word with all those who use the composter to stop putting any fruit in until end of September. Has anyone got any other tips?

    Also, I am trying to source a Waspinator ASAP to put up in garden. I know that I can buy them over the internet (found them on internet after desperate searches today for remedies) but really would like to buy one tomorrow. Anybody got any idea who sells them? The wasps are driving me demented, have to keep doors closed and my cats are protesting, who needs a gym when you have to get up so much to open doors to my demanding cats.

    http://ecostore.ie/new-products/the-waspinator-twin-pack


    I know a few people who've been stung by wasps the last few days. My boyfriend got stung on the arse yesterday lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    I know a few people who've been stung by wasps the last few days. My boyfriend got stung on the arse yesterday lol

    Haha, poor lad. At least I can wrap the area where I got stung with bandage with antiseptic. Still having to do that as it is so itchy. Does he normally show his arse in public?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    brrabus wrote: »
    Haha, poor lad. At least I can wrap the area where I got stung with bandage with antiseptic. Still having to do that as it is so itchy. Does he normally show his arse in public?

    Never been stung myself but it sounds horrible. It somehow got into his work trousers and stung him a load of times. I almost dropped the phone I laughed so much when he told me what had happened :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    Never been stung myself but it sounds horrible. It somehow got into his work trousers and stung him a load of times. I almost dropped the phone I laughed so much when he told me what had happened :D

    I am sorry but I am LMAO reading this and feeling sorry for him at the same time, the poor guy, needs an inflatable ring to sit down on for a while. Take it from me who has been stung many a time, they love me, they think I am a flower because I have reddish hair, it is damn painful. Worst thing about wasps is that they do not leave their sting so can sting over and over again and they will do if you annoy them or they feel under threat. From previous experience I ran to cold water, well limped to it, so the venom would not spread. My mother would be telling me to wash my mouth out with soap if she could have heard what was coming out of it. Was stung by a bee once and the area totally swelled up so had to go to hospital, those beggers leave their sting in you.


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