Nokia Lumia 800

kaizersoze · 15-12-2012 1:55am

FGR wrote: »

I downloaded the GB Country Variant and have to say I was impressed! Switched back to 7.5 though given that I did not have access to the Nokia Collection for some peculiar reason. Maybe it's because I'm in Ireland with an Irish Live account?

Weird. I'm on an Irish live account and the Nokia Collection is there for me.

Another plus for me is the MMS not sending is fixed. Don't know if it was the unbranded firmware or 7.8 itself that fixed it.

Terrontress · 15-12-2012 4:32am

Anyone know if OTA podcasts or web browser text search work on 7.8?

vectra · 15-12-2012 11:09am

OK
What is the verdict on 7.8?

If it is better, then why?
I have a 6 week old Lumia and don't really want to do much with it in case it goes belly up and warranty would be defunkt )

Copper_pipe · 15-12-2012 11:22am

The Bluetooth Share feature is a big addition. I an changing my homescreen layout so many times since I updated its scary. When you Flash the Internet sharing option works. Made a quick vid last night on how to flash to 7.8>>> http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=SNizElJfkEw

If you have to send it back for repair you can just flash to the old 7.5 again

KingOfFairview · 15-12-2012 1:15pm

Quick question... If I flash 7.8 now, will I need the official update at all? Is there any advantage to waiting?

evolutionqy7 · 15-12-2012 1:52pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

Weird. I'm on an Irish live account and the Nokia Collection is there for me.

Another plus for me is the MMS not sending is fixed. Don't know if it was the unbranded firmware or 7.8 itself that fixed it.

You didn't give it enough time. It usually is absent in the start. Once the marketplace picks up for it's a Nokia phone it adds the Nokia collection automatically

Dunny · 15-12-2012 9:59pm

How do I run 7.8 (sorry)

Ronan H · 15-12-2012 10:22pm

Hmmm, I'm having a lot of trouble even installing Nokia Care Suite still. When I try, it flashed up a link box with the address of the C++ Redistributable application, to prompt me to install it, but when I try, it's like the installation fails. It just stops (or appears to at least) and goes off the screen and that's it. If I try to run the NCS installer again, the same thing happens. However, it is listed in my list of installed applications in Control Panel. There's loads of them actually, 2005, 2008, 2010. I have also installed the 64 bit version just in case that's the issue, but to no avail.

Any suggestions?

Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Ronan H · 15-12-2012 10:26pm

Dunny wrote: »

How do I run 7.8 (sorry)

Seriously? Go read the last few pages of this thread.

KingOfFairview · 15-12-2012 10:44pm

Logically, this is a pretty good indication that "Q1 2013" (the projected official release of 7.8) is more likely to mean January than March, amirite?

Ronan H · 15-12-2012 10:47pm

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Logically, this is a pretty good indication that "Q1 2013" (the projected official release of 7.8) is more likely to mean January than March, amirite?

I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd say Q1 means March at the earliest?!

KingOfFairview · 15-12-2012 11:05pm

Ronan H wrote: »

I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd say Q1 means March at the earliest?!

Even if the firmware is already usable? I don't know much about the industry but how can there be three months worth of development left to do if it's already in the state it is now?

wheresmybeaver · 15-12-2012 11:11pm

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Logically, this is a pretty good indication that "Q1 2013" (the projected official release of 7.8) is more likely to mean January than March, amirite?

If you have an unlocked generic model i would say you'd get the update in the next 4 weeks. But it could be another 4 - 8 weeks for o2, meteor etc knowing their testing requirements.

Ronan H · 15-12-2012 11:16pm

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Even if the firmware is already usable? I don't know much about the industry but how can there be three months worth of development left to do if it's already in the state it is now?

As Beaver said, it's usually the testing etc. that delays it. The networks fiddle around with the OEM firmware like no mans business and it takes months sometimes to get pushed out to customers...

The Symbian Belle Refresh is a good example. That took forever to get put out through Vodafone.

KingOfFairview · 16-12-2012 12:13am

Hm, I thought I had heard windows themselves were putting this out directly, bypassing the networks. Maybe I'm mistaken

kaizersoze · 16-12-2012 1:43am

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Even if the firmware is already usable? I don't know much about the industry but how can there be three months worth of development left to do if it's already in the state it is now?

It's nothing really to do with the readiness of the update. It's more to do with the marketing/sales of the new Windows 8 phones. It's being held back until they get off the ground. Most of them won't be widely available until Feb/March.

KingOfFairview · 16-12-2012 10:31am

When the update proper comes, will that wipe the phone's data too? Is there any advantage to waiting for the official update?

evolutionqy7 · 16-12-2012 11:44am

KingOfFairview wrote: »

When the update proper comes, will that wipe the phone's data too? Is there any advantage to waiting for the official update?

It wont. That's the advantage. It will preserve your data

KingOfFairview · 16-12-2012 12:24pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

It wont. That's the advantage. It will preserve your data

OK, thanks feller. Reckon I'll wait then, just too much risk and not enough advantage.

DjFlin · 16-12-2012 4:35pm

KingOfFairview wrote: »

Even if the firmware is already usable? I don't know much about the industry but how can there be three months worth of development left to do if it's already in the state it is now?

Marketing, Carrier testing and other such bureaucracy needs to be taken care of.

Plus, just because Nokia has finished creating WP 7.8 ROMs for their phones, doesn't mean HTC, Samsung etc have. Microsoft wants the launch to happen simultaneously across the board.

KingOfFairview · 16-12-2012 6:42pm

http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-windows-phone-78-update

Reports have been flooding in detailing an update for Windows Phone 7.5, which can only mean one thing - Microsoft has begun rolling out Windows Phone 7.8 for those who own previous generation hardware. Windows Phone Central readers, as well as WP7.nl have received notification of an available release on the Lumia 800.

Windows Phone 7.8 is a major update that Microsoft announced alongside Windows Phone 8. The release is to implement new features on legacy hardware, including the new start screen Live Tile layout and other goodies. Those who have managed to receive and apply the 7.8 update have noticed a new splash screen and Xbox Live Tile that are present on Windows Phone 8.

Windows Phone 7.8 Update

According to WP7.nl, the update process for the Lumia 800 includes a number of builds as well as a Nokia update. Reported OS version 7.10.8773 is bumped to 7.10.8779.8, and is then proceeded with the update to 7.10.8783. This then prepares the device for the final update to 7.10. 8858.136. Welcome to almost-Windows Phone 8.

We're yet to get our Windows Phones to register the update, so be sure to let us know if you've received the one in the comments, along with which Windows Phone you're using and carrier (if applicable) you're with.

[Note: This could be a staggered rollout, dependent on carriers and OEMs, so don't get your hopes too high just yet. Microsoft has yet to announce anything official about this occurring, meaning this is still limited to just a few users and phones.]

Ronan H · 16-12-2012 8:27pm

KingOfFairview wrote: »

http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-windows-phone-78-update

One word says it all.

Staggered.

Do not begin breath holding yet.

KingOfFairview · 16-12-2012 8:30pm

Ronan H wrote: »

One word says it all.

Staggered.

Do not begin breath holding yet.

It's not there for me yet anyhow. But one way or the other you've got to reason it's not far away for us.

AntiVirus · 16-12-2012 9:07pm

KingOfFairview wrote: »

It's not there for me yet anyhow. But one way or the other you've got to reason it's not far away for us.

There's no Irish firmwares out yet so don't be expecting it till they at least have one up.

evolutionqy7 · 16-12-2012 9:42pm

AntiVirus wrote: »

There's no Irish firmwares out yet so don't be expecting it till they at least have one up.

Do remember we are always nearly the last ones to get any sort of tech advancements.

AntiVirus · 16-12-2012 9:47pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Do remember we are always nearly the last ones to get any sort of tech advancements.

Very true and then the networks aren't the quickest at pushing them out.

topcatcbr · 16-12-2012 10:12pm

I bought my young lad one of these for Xmas. I hope this update comes through before Xmas day.

Corruptedmorals · 16-12-2012 10:44pm

Mine is country variant Germany so hopefully will be faster..but I didn't have much of a Headstart with the last update.

Sundance_Kid · 17-12-2012 12:22am

Only got this phone in the last few days and also happens to be my first "smartphone" so a fairly simple learner question

Just downloading a few apps, what is the difference between metrotube & youtube - which one should I use?

Thanks in advance

AntiVirus · 17-12-2012 12:42am

Sundance_Kid wrote: »

Only got this phone in the last few days and also happens to be my first "smartphone" so a fairly simple learner question

Just downloading a few apps, what is the difference between metrotube & youtube - which one should I use?

Thanks in advance

Pick Metrotube.
Metrotube is Youtube with a much better interface.

topcatcbr · 17-12-2012 3:02pm

I see online that this has started to roll out. Has anyone tried this yet.

hadoken13 · 17-12-2012 9:44pm

topcatcbr wrote: »

I see online that this has started to roll out. Has anyone tried this yet.

Not yet - but there is a way to force update:

http://www.1800pocketpc.com/how-to-force-update-lumia-wp7-5-to-windows-phone-7-8-tutorial/

calex71 · 17-12-2012 10:18pm

Sorry if it's been asked, but my search yielded nothing, I have a strange new icon / notification on my lock screen just below the music controls, best way to describe is a dot with brackets either side of it like ((.)) , anyone know what that is ?

Tommay · 17-12-2012 10:24pm

calex71 wrote: »

Sorry if it's been asked, but my search yielded nothing, I have a strange new icon / notification on my lock screen just below the music controls, best way to describe is a dot with brackets either side of it like ((.)) , anyone know what that is ?

Can you see it anywhere here?

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp7/basics/what-do-the-icons-on-my-phone-mean

I found this also: http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-7/196261-help-unknown-icon.html

Looks like what you're describing.

AntiVirus · 17-12-2012 10:34pm

calex71 wrote: »

Sorry if it's been asked, but my search yielded nothing, I have a strange new icon / notification on my lock screen just below the music controls, best way to describe is a dot with brackets either side of it like ((.)) , anyone know what that is ?

If its this one it means an app or service is using/checking your location.

http://windowsphone.blogvasion.com/2012/11/what-do-icons-displayed-on-your-windows.html

AntiVirus · 17-12-2012 10:38pm

Bad news on any one waiting for the update. Nokia have said the updates going out are for pre production models. In other words those ones given to developers and journalists. The roll out won't start till next year.

http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-devices-getting-wp7-8-update-are-pre-productionactual-update-coming-next-year/

calex71 · 17-12-2012 10:53pm

Tommay wrote: »

Can you see it anywhere here?

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp7/basics/what-do-the-icons-on-my-phone-mean

I found this also: http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-7/196261-help-unknown-icon.html

Looks like what you're describing.

Second link, seems to be exactly the one alright, and I do use whatsapp cheers.

Copper_pipe · 17-12-2012 11:02pm

Any screen Capture apps on the marketplace?

Tommay · 17-12-2012 11:41pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Any screen Capture apps on the marketplace?

Afraid not.

mrmeindl · 18-12-2012 3:38pm

Why do innocuous apps need to access; photo, music and video library's?

TBi · 18-12-2012 4:18pm

mrmeindl wrote: »

Why do innocuous apps need to access; photo, music and video library's?

No idea but i'm glad I'm asked. A lot of 'free' apps want far too much access to your personal files.

keith_d99 · 19-12-2012 2:19pm

Anybody know of a webtext app that works with O2?

Thanks!

Ronan H · 19-12-2012 3:42pm

keith_d99 wrote: »

Anybody know of a webtext app that works with O2?

Thanks!

None of the webtext apps, i.e. Noelle, Sendu, and the other one I can't remember, seem to be 100% reliable on any network according to what I have seen and heard.

Just install them and run them for a while and you will find out which one works best I guess...

Ro

evolutionqy7 · 19-12-2012 6:28pm

keith_d99 wrote: »

Anybody know of a webtext app that works with O2?

Thanks!

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055165333?page=134#post_82301127

See here. Cabbage hasn't been doing very well lately

Dunny · 22-12-2012 2:28pm

Still getting used to it. Can I put a song as a ringtone? if so, how?

Ronan H · 22-12-2012 2:33pm

Dunny wrote: »

Still getting used to it. Can I put a song as a ringtone? if so, how?

You can, but typically enough, it's WAY more complicated than it should be. You will have to download third party software to edit the file so its no longer than 40 second long, and then of course the file has to be DRM free, and it must be either a MP3 of a WMA file, and it has to be less than a megabyte in size...but if you are happy to do all that, then here you go!

Hmm, did I manage to conceal the sarcasm? :rolleyes:

Dunny · 22-12-2012 2:37pm

Eh yeah..

Dub XV · 22-12-2012 2:43pm

Dunny wrote: »

Still getting used to it. Can I put a song as a ringtone? if so, how?

Download "Free Ringtones" from the marketplace.

Search for the song you want and then save it as your ringtone.

Ronan H · 22-12-2012 2:49pm

I'll get my coat.

goat.sniffer · 22-12-2012 4:36pm

Is there any way of getting a notification for delivery of a text message as opposed to an actual text telling me the text was delivered? I find getting a text for this very annoying. The older Nokia's would have the delivery status embedded in the actual sent text!

thanks

Nokia Lumia 800

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