Dark Souls

saiint · 22-08-2012 12:12pm

2smiggy wrote: »

a bit more info on the PC version, an interview with one of the creators of Dark Souls . more teleport to and from different bonfires ?? would make moving around a bit easier, too easy perhaps.

linky

anyone tell me what build im going for?
been playing this game for nearly a month , having finished it yet keep finding more and more places to go to ( well worth the money payed for )

anyway this is my first character
i started my second going for a pyromancer but at the moment i havnt a clue about my current character

he has
30 health ( cant remember name )
45 str
20 dex
and 20 stamina or weight load what ever you prefer

anyone tell me whats the difference between str and dex? i havnt found any weopens needing high dex only high str is needed so i dont see the point in upgrading my dex

also theirs a weopon i have
it says grade : A 52 str 20 dex ( or 18 dex )
so when i get 52 str and 20 dex can i weild this? because at the moment i cant weild a certain weopen which is within my str lvl and my dex lvl?

also why cant i apply lightining resin to my black knights halbeit? any other normal weopen i can but not that?

thanks

excaliburhc · 22-08-2012 12:18pm

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/

it all depends on the type of character you want to build m8 , two links above are all you need for darksouls info - from character builds to weapon upgrade paths and such.

str :
Strength controls the player's Attack Power for weapons that scale with Strength. Strength does NOT affect your weapon swing speed as shown in this video.
Some weapons require a minimum strength level to be wielded properly.
If you do not meet the minimum strength required, you will stagger after every attack action of the weapon.
Two-handing the weapon will give a 50% strength bonus, affecting both the weapon requirements and damage modifier.
Strength is especially useful for Ultra Greatswords, Axes and Great Axes, Hammers and Great Hammers.

dex:
Dexterity controls the player's Attack Power for weapons that scale with Dexterity and increases casting speed for most spells.
Some weapons require a minimum dexterity level to be wielded properly.
If you do not meet the minimum dexterity required, you will stagger after every hit on an opponent.
The speed of spell casting increases with dexterity, max speed at 45 dex.
Dexterity is especially useful for Daggers, Katanas, Thrusting/Piercing Swords, Curved Swords, Spears, Whips and Bows

saiint · 22-08-2012 12:42pm

excaliburhc wrote: »

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/

it all depends on the type of character you want to build m8 , two links above are all you need for darksouls info - from character builds to weapon upgrade paths and such.

str :
Strength controls the player's Attack Power for weapons that scale with Strength. Strength does NOT affect your weapon swing speed as shown in this video.
Some weapons require a minimum strength level to be wielded properly.
If you do not meet the minimum strength required, you will stagger after every attack action of the weapon.
Two-handing the weapon will give a 50% strength bonus, affecting both the weapon requirements and damage modifier.
Strength is especially useful for Ultra Greatswords, Axes and Great Axes, Hammers and Great Hammers.

dex:
Dexterity controls the player's Attack Power for weapons that scale with Dexterity and increases casting speed for most spells.
Some weapons require a minimum dexterity level to be wielded properly.
If you do not meet the minimum dexterity required, you will stagger after every hit on an opponent.
The speed of spell casting increases with dexterity, max speed at 45 dex.
Dexterity is especially useful for Daggers, Katanas, Thrusting/Piercing Swords, Curved Swords, Spears, Whips and Bows

so str is basicly for power like high hitting
but dex is more like recover from speed?

no wonder wonder i always use spears ( well halbeits what ever their callled) and my character takes to long to swing it, i have well over the requirements for my current weopen which is the black knight halbeit but it lacks speed? but the damage is very high

2smiggy · 22-08-2012 12:45pm

saiint wrote: »

anyone tell me what build im going for?
been playing this game for nearly a month , having finished it yet keep finding more and more places to go to ( well worth the money payed for )

anyway this is my first character
i started my second going for a pyromancer but at the moment i havnt a clue about my current character

he has
30 health ( cant remember name )
45 str
20 dex
and 20 stamina or weight load what ever you prefer

anyone tell me whats the difference between str and dex? i havnt found any weopens needing high dex only high str is needed so i dont see the point in upgrading my dex

also theirs a weopon i have
it says grade : A 52 str 20 dex ( or 18 dex )
so when i get 52 str and 20 dex can i weild this? because at the moment i cant weild a certain weopen which is within my str lvl and my dex lvl?

also why cant i apply lightining resin to my black knights halbeit? any other normal weopen i can but not that?

thanks

Just read up the wikis linked in previous post.

Different weapons need minimum stats to use correctly. Some need faith and other attributes as well.

There is also scaling on the weapons, this is extra damage the weapon deals depending on what it scales with.
for example if a weapon Scales A with strength , the higher your strength is up to level 50 , the more damage the weapon deals. If a weapon has a S rating, it scales to level 65. ratings go from lowest to highest E D C B A S

As for applying lightning (or fire or raw or occult ........) or the other attack values to your weapon you will have to look up the weapons chart to see what it can do

for you black knight halberd look here link

there is not much you can do with this weapon, just upgrade it to +5 with twinkling titanite. (which you can now thankfully buy, pre patch you had to farm this)

excaliburhc · 22-08-2012 4:02pm

you should have a spear or the estroc by now , these are handy especially for new players as they allow you to keep your shield up when striking.

recommend taking a winged spear to +5 and then when you find the upgrade stones add a magical property - fire is good as you get the lightning spear later in sens fortress.

but thats just me

did you get the drake sword ? tis handy as well up until about soul level 50.

and shir once you are 50 you can farm the for souls in the forest area.using the crest of artrios.

saiint · 22-08-2012 6:58pm

excaliburhc wrote: »

you should have a spear or the estroc by now , these are handy especially for new players as they allow you to keep your shield up when striking.

recommend taking a winged spear to +5 and then when you find the upgrade stones add a magical property - fire is good as you get the lightning spear later in sens fortress.

but thats just me

did you get the drake sword ? tis handy as well up until about soul level 50.

and shir once you are 50 you can farm the for souls in the forest area.using the crest of artrios.

im lvl 77 or something
wouldnt be to much into farming been honest haha i need to get a guide book for this game
to much info in it

tuxy · 23-08-2012 4:38am

here's some footage of dark souls being played with mouse and keyboard on the new arena mode.
It was just recorded on crappy phone camera so it's hard to tell be I think the game looks good.

Also dark souls is the second best seller on steam after cs:go
Do you guys think from software will be happy?

saiint · 23-08-2012 8:50am

tuxy wrote: »

here's some footage of dark souls being played with mouse and keyboard on the new arena mode.
It was just recorded on crappy phone camera so it's hard to tell be I think the game looks good.

Also dark souls is the second best seller on steam after cs:go
Do you guys think from software will be happy?

cant watch it in work haha
think il get it for pc as well though

alright guys ive finally managed to beat 3 out of 4 of the bosses for the lord vessel

the last being the four kings ( the other 3 bosses being pretty easy to be honest ) was just getting to them that was the hard part

now i know where the four kings are
their in anor lando ruins , where the ghosts are
i got the key of that person
i made the water sink by opening a dam of some sort
now i cant get past those poxy knight things
i can kill 1 or 2 on their own
but if they catch me by surprize im fu*ked
specialy those big blob things their prett hard as well

can anyone tell me the weakness for them cat knights? i cant check wiki atm cause its blocked on my computer in work
also am i going the right way ? haha

2smiggy · 23-08-2012 9:28am

when going past the ghosts, there is a ladder you can kick down. now when you meet the first few ghosts you can run past them , and slide or jump (i forget ) to where you kicked down the ladder. this is a short-cut.

after climbing the ladder run across the ledge where ghosts come from above and underneath. you will go down some steps where you can turn right into one of the towers, just run straight on and jump down. this is where you meet the dark wraiths knights.

just take out the dark wraiths one at a time. you can fight them like this. take your time. they are easy to back stab. the big blobs don't respawn.

there is a slab to reinforce weapons to +15 in this area if you explore it. it is up some stair (you will have to look it up) also red eye orbs , if you want to do some invading.

saiint · 23-08-2012 9:38am

2smiggy wrote: »

when going past the ghosts, there is a ladder you can kick down. now when you meet the first few ghosts you can run past them , and slide or jump (i forget ) to where you kicked down the ladder. this is a short-cut.

after climbing the ladder run across the ledge where ghosts come from above and underneath. you will go down some steps where you can turn right into one of the towers, just run straight on and jump down. this is where you meet the dark wraiths knights.

just take out the dark wraiths one at a time. you can fight them like this. take your time. they are easy to back stab. the big blobs don't respawn.

there is a slab to reinforce weapons to +15 in this area if you explore it. it is up some stair (you will have to look it up) also red eye orbs , if you want to do some invading.

thanks man
im already at the dark wraith knights though
took out one blob, but theirs another ahead
il get through eh eventually
and i thought the tomb of the giants was hard haha

2smiggy · 23-08-2012 11:08am

the tomb of the giants is harder IMO. i really really hate the skeleton dogs.

i find getting to the 4 kings easy, i sometimes have trouble fighting them though.

use the grass crest shield for quicker stamina regeneration. maybe use the magic weapon or power within for higher damage. also 2 hand your weapon and flake away.

another tip, you can damage them as they die to take even more off there total health. that's if you do not need to use a flask in between when they appear.

saiint · 23-08-2012 11:18am

2smiggy wrote: »

the tomb of the giants is harder IMO. i really really hate the skeleton dogs.

i find getting to the 4 kings easy, i sometimes have trouble fighting them though.

use the grass crest shield for quicker stamina regeneration. maybe use the magic weapon or power within for higher damage. also 2 hand your weapon and flake away.

another tip, you can damage them as they die to take even more off there total health. that's if you do not need to use a flask in between when they appear.

i dont use the grass crest shield anymore
i mainly use that mask
you get out of them mage looking things right before you fight the boss in the tomb of the giants nito i think his name is ha

i use that to refil stamina
i use the towershield full upgraded with fire , manages to block most bosses attacks
and i use powerwithin mainly on bosses as well
i need to find the bonfirs in the ghost place because everytime i die, i respawn right back near the firelink shine
abit of a walk from their ha

excaliburhc · 23-08-2012 11:28am

iron skin is handy enough really reduces damage for the 4 kings , i just went 2hander and iron skin and wailed on them, you have some time before the 2nd / 3rd and 4th spawn so if you are lucky and quick you can keep it at 1vs1

2smiggy · 23-08-2012 11:39am

saiint wrote: »

i dont use the grass crest shield anymore
i mainly use that mask
you get out of them mage looking things right before you fight the boss in the tomb of the giants nito i think his name is ha

i use that to refil stamina
i use the towershield full upgraded with fire , manages to block most bosses attacks
and i use powerwithin mainly on bosses as well
i need to find the bonfirs in the ghost place because everytime i die, i respawn right back near the firelink shine
abit of a walk from their ha

no bonfire in new londo ruins. but it is only a few minutes run from the fire link to the 4 kings when you know the way.

Polar101 · 23-08-2012 12:46pm

I'm thinking I might actually finish this game - only about five bosses left and then I've cleared everything. Didn't see that happening when I started playing 10 months ago.

saiint · 23-08-2012 1:36pm

Polar101 wrote: »

I'm thinking I might actually finish this game - only about five bosses left and then I've cleared everything. Didn't see that happening when I started playing 10 months ago.

i felt the same
i loved the game at the beginning but i hadnt got a clue what i was doing
were to go
and kept getting killed ha, finally im actually making progress and enjoying the game to its value

they could sell the game for 100e and id still buy it

tuxy · 23-08-2012 3:15pm

I forgot to put the link in with my last post.
There are probably better videos out by now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGmXeArZ0bQ

tuxy · 23-08-2012 5:07pm

Restart steam guys, you can now preload

YouSavedMyLife · 24-08-2012 1:02am

Looks like its now available on steam. Must. Resist. New. Content!!!!!

2smiggy · 24-08-2012 3:06am

just about to go to the gargoyles on the PC , never seen so many summon signs !!

seems a fair bit more laggy than the PS3 though

tuxy · 24-08-2012 3:32am

Someone has fixed the internal rendering

http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?p=92

Just remember to turn off in game anti aliasing for it to work.

It will be interesting to see if there is an fps lock fix. I know it will be much more difficult but you wouldn't know what the moding community are capable of!

excaliburhc · 24-08-2012 8:28am

couldnt bloody resist - i now own 2 copies of dark souls

damn it , why did i just start a new char last week- well thats about 20 hours of fun just gone

saiint · 24-08-2012 8:38am

excaliburhc wrote: »

couldnt bloody resist - i now own 2 copies of dark souls

damn it , why did i just start a new char last week- well thats about 20 hours of fun just gone

on the last boss now

finally reached the end
and im after dieing about 15 times now ha
how do you beat this dude? ha i heard parrying is a good way
also might get it on pc now :P new content is pulling me in

excaliburhc · 24-08-2012 9:12am

to beat him i kinda cheesed it

cast iron skin and used the moonbutterfly shield thing that fires the attack as its secondary. just went toe to toe , took 5 hits with it i think . was close - alot of running around the rocks when the spell wore off to recast

edit: just remember he is easy enough to parry - has large telegraphs on his moves. (i was never very good at parrying hence my using of the shield attack

)

Dcully · 24-08-2012 9:28am

tuxy wrote: »

Someone has fixed the internal rendering

http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?p=92

Just remember to turn off in game anti aliasing for it to work.

It will be interesting to see if there is an fps lock fix. I know it will be much more difficult but you wouldn't know what the moding community are capable of!

Is this the same as this mod?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=488240

Ah it is yes

, god bless the pc community.

ShadowHearth · 24-08-2012 9:44am

Dcully wrote: »

Is this the same as this mod?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=488240

Ah it is yes , god bless the pc community.

I am 100% sure we will have HD full mod next year by some moders

.

Dcully · 24-08-2012 10:09am

Had a quick go lastnight and almost pissed myself laughing at the graphics even though i expected as such.
Its like a 10 year old game but but but ,ive recently being enjoying the delights of baldurs gate which is older than 10 years and looks equally crap but as much as i love my games looking great with high framerate nothing beats good honest gameplay.
One of my favourite fps games is the old Day of Defeat which looks terrible by todays standards but has amazing gameplay, so yes i can deal with poor visuals.

Dark Souls seems to have gameplay in bucket loads.
I was expecting the game to look poor and have poor framerate which it does but judging by other forums some people expected a silky smooth game.
I played the game on xbox briefly a month or so ago for 30 mins, the PC version looks and plays identical.

Ill definitely be modding my game to improve the looks but for now im just happy to be able to play this game that everyone raves about so much:)

The only thing is Guild Wars 2 servers open tomorrow

:D:D

Azza · 24-08-2012 10:25am

Lets highjack this thread and turn it into a Day of Defeat appreciation thread.

Dcully · 24-08-2012 11:23am

Tried that high res mod and wow it totally transforms the game.
Only thing is you cant read the messages with it.
Im guessing the message reading is essential or is it jut a tutorial at the beginning?

balkieb2002 · 24-08-2012 11:47am

Dcully wrote: »

Tried that high res mod and wow it totally transforms the game.
Only thing is you cant read the messages with it.
Im guessing the message reading is essential or is it jut a tutorial at the beginning?

Not sure how imporant text reading is but apparently it's being worked on so a fix/update should appear shortly.

Known Issues
■Message text is not rendered correctly. I will work on this tomorrow.
■Does not work with the in-game AA (but that’s just a blur filter anyway)
■Bad framerate reported on AMD cards, NV seems fine

Dcully · 24-08-2012 11:58am

Cheers, it will be great once the message fix is in place.
The actually looks pretty good with this high res mod.
The low fps as in locked at 30 doesnt bother this game at all as its pretty slow paced, great game so far.

Azza · 24-08-2012 11:59am

First PC review spotted over at PC Gamer.

89%
Great game but they lament the fact its a barebones console port.

They however noted load times where better than console and it wasn't bugy, it didn't crash on them at all.

ShadowHearth · 24-08-2012 12:17pm

I am so tempted, but I got so many games to play and I am back in to wow and Diablo 3... Other lads are black mailing me to start guild wars 2 too...

Still, need to see reviews, but good to know nosing community on it already.

2smiggy · 24-08-2012 12:21pm

this may seem a little stupid, but i am new to PC gaming. could you give me an idea of how to install the mod ? i looked at neo gaf etc , but there many many pages to go through, and it can be a little daunting

gizmo · 24-08-2012 12:25pm

balkieb2002 wrote: »

Not sure how imporant text reading is but apparently it's being worked on so a fix/update should appear shortly.

A partial fix is out.

2smiggy wrote: »

this may seem a little stupid, but i am new to PC gaming. could you give me an idea of how to install the mod ? i looked at neo gaf etc , but there many many pages to go through, and it can be a little daunting

Keep an eye for the first post in the thread for future updates. In this case:

How do I use it?
Place d3d9.dll and DSfix.ini into the game's binary directory. (The place where DARKSOULS.exe is)
You can open DSfix.ini with a text editor to adjust the desired internal resolution

ancapailldorcha · 24-08-2012 12:35pm

How demanding is it to run? Systemrequirementslab told me my laptop's Graphics card isn't good enough.

2smiggy · 24-08-2012 12:48pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

How demanding is it to run? Systemrequirementslab told me my laptop's Graphics card isn't good enough.

not sure how demanding it is to run, but i have a new computer with an i5 3570 processor and an HD 7850 graphics card, and it definitely a little laggy. i am near enough to my first trip to blightown , so that will tell alot :eek:

i never got cursed by them f**king frogs before till last night ! 3 times in a row !! might have been the cider or lack of sleep !

ancapailldorcha · 24-08-2012 12:58pm

Sounds like I might be better off giving it a miss.

2smiggy · 24-08-2012 1:07pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Sounds like I might be better off giving it a miss.

i will try the fixes that have been released by the community. if they make it any better i will report back. looking around the internet it does seem to make a positive difference.

i have about an hours work to do in work , then i am heading home ! hopefully will get to skinny and fatty in a few hours. there will be no shortage in summoning signs anyway !!

i am yet to see my first invader, but i imagine by the time i get to anor londo there will be a few around

tok9 · 24-08-2012 1:08pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Sounds like I might be better off giving it a miss.

There is no circumstance where the above is true.

Just reading about the PC gamers getting it is making me want to play it again.

A brilliant game. Don't miss out.

ShadowHearth · 24-08-2012 1:26pm

Lads. How about mouse and keyboard control on this one? The way console version worked with lock in system i can't see it being very comfortable. So any opinions on pc controls?

2smiggy · 24-08-2012 1:30pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Lads. How about mouse and keyboard control on this one? The way console version worked with lock in system i can't see it being very comfortable. So any opinions on pc controls?

I tried them for a few minutes , just for fun. I could not really use them as so used to the controller playing this game. did not feel right. i am using an xbox controller on the PC , even that is taking getting used to compared to the PS3 one

Dcully · 24-08-2012 1:40pm

Anyone remotely interested in this and worried about it being a bad port etc, dont worry.
I have it running on my own high spec rig and my sons 5 year old rig, both are locked to the games 30fps,while 30 fps is insanely low compared to what pc users are used to it isnt noticeable simply because its a slow paced game.

@shadowhearth, i havent tried kb&mouse yet ,ive been using my 360 pad with darksiders recently so i just used it also for Dark Souls.

Kiith · 24-08-2012 2:30pm

I'm going to buy this today. Was going to wait a while after GW2, but its been too long since i've played it and from the sounds of things, it as good as the console version which is fine by me. Will definitely be using the 360 pad though, as the thought of using a mouse and kb for this is awful.

Chairman Meow · 24-08-2012 3:04pm

The resolution fix is (k)night and day. Really makes the game look absolutely gorgeous

Cant wait to get back into this game. Oh and shadowhearth, no, kb&m controls are almost unplayable. Its pretty much pad or nothing at all

Grumpypants · 24-08-2012 3:12pm

I got emailed a steam code
but my internet has been pretty much down for the last four days so can't download it. good old digital gaming oh how I hate you.

Kiith · 24-08-2012 3:20pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

I got emailed a steam code
but my internet has been pretty much down for the last four days so can't download it. good old digital gaming oh how I hate you.

I just got my code, and will start downloading it once i get home. Should have it by around 8pm. Good old digital gaming oh how I love you

ancapailldorcha · 24-08-2012 4:10pm

tok9 wrote: »

There is no circumstance where the above is true.

Just reading about the PC gamers getting it is making me want to play it again.

A brilliant game. Don't miss out.

I've played the PS3 version and you're almost right. My laptop falls short of the minimum requirements. I just want to play the extra content and maybe try a new magic build.

Grumpypants · 24-08-2012 4:17pm

Kiith wrote: »

I just got my code, and will start downloading it once i get home. Should have it by around 8pm. Good old digital gaming oh how I love you

Dam you and your working internet:D, think i might head out Californi way heard they got themselves a whole mess of internet out there.

marshbaboon · 24-08-2012 5:04pm

Chairman Meow wrote: »

The resolution fix is (k)night and day. Really makes the game look absolutely gorgeous

Cant wait to get back into this game. Oh and shadowhearth, no, kb&m controls are almost unplayable. Its pretty much pad or nothing at all

Wow, that's some difference! Shame about the controls though. Going to give it a bash this evening but I only have a wireless 360 pad

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