Experiences/advice with Airsoft retailers.

jeawan · 03-03-2010 10:57am

Rogue-Trooper wrote: »

First class outfit. Great service and the quality of the Helikon gear is top notch. Have ordered various bits and pieces from them, the most recent being a set of their ECWCS gear (gortex-type kit) which I have to say I love.

Agreed with rogue-trooper very good service

moggser · 04-03-2010 9:31pm

update!!!!!

well i ordered a spectre from the dreaded ebaybanned on the 14th feb and with the new year they had i didnt expect it anytime soon

so the shipped it on the 26th feb and it arrived in the teddy bear on the 1st march where its been sitting in customs since be here tomorrow or so im led to think from the lovely people in an post

also i ordered few bits from pro-t the place Blay was ranting and raving about

and im a do the same lol ordered saturday they took the money on monday and shipped it on a tuesday and i got it on a thursday (today) that was a bit like a craig david song for a min

nice stuff on the site worth a look

Washington Irving · 04-03-2010 9:58pm

Did ya choose the first or second shipping option, moggy?

moggser · 04-03-2010 10:05pm

that depends because of what you get and how much of it
it swaps around but you go for the cheapest one naturally lol

but when you go to do so its usually the one that has (1x2334kg) or something to that effect

Washington Irving · 04-03-2010 10:07pm

Cheers Moggser

Scrambles_ · 05-03-2010 10:59am

Rogue-Trooper wrote: »

First class outfit. Great service and the quality of the Helikon gear is top notch. Have ordered various bits and pieces from them, the most recent being a set of their ECWCS gear (gortex-type kit) which I have to say I love.

+1

Just got my first order from them delivered, will definately be back for more.

dunnaman93 · 06-03-2010 3:19am

Ordered a Magpul reciever with a vltor upper and a MS2 sling for about 60 yoyos shipped off Pro&T today, pretty good really!

Hopefully it wont get stuck in customs!:pac:

spicymchaggis · 06-03-2010 3:35am

dunnaman93 wrote: »

Ordered a Magpul reciever with a vltor upper and a MS2 sling for about 60 yoyos shipped off Pro&T today, pretty good really!

Hopefully it wont get stuck in customs!:pac:

any idea if all the bits and bobs come with the receiver like dust cover, mag release etc? i noticed the pictured them in the magpul receiver but not in the one with the vltor upper.

dunnaman93 · 06-03-2010 3:51am

spicymchaggis wrote: »

any idea if all the bits and bobs come with the receiver like dust cover, mag release etc? i noticed the pictured them in the magpul receiver but not in the one with the vltor upper.

Not sure either? hopefully they do but im not too bothered as I have an old reciever lying around

I could give yer man a shout as hes prtty good at getting back to you and i'll confirm it.:pac:

Private Snafu · 07-03-2010 9:37am

Got a few bits from pro&t myself this week, absolutely top notch and delivery took less than a week, I can't recommend them enough

PX Airsoft on the other hand has been absolute rubbish, ordered a couple of laser sights and both arrived with failing switch connections, really not what I was expecting. Emailed them on thursday about it and still no response. Won't be ordering from them again!

dunnaman93 · 08-03-2010 7:59pm

spicymchaggis wrote: »

any idea if all the bits and bobs come with the receiver like dust cover, mag release etc? i noticed the pictured them in the magpul receiver but not in the one with the vltor upper.

Yer man got back to me today and this is what he said(reminds me of a KRS-1 song):pac:

Hi, the body come with the body pins, charging handle and dust cover etc, but the parts is not good, bad quality, only the body is ok, thank you.

Best Regards,
Jerry

Still you cant really beat that price!:rolleyes:

KonFusion · 11-03-2010 11:20am

Anyone ever heard of these http://www.airsoftforall.com/ ??

Any info appreciated.

Gatling · 12-03-2010 2:26am

looks very similar to hobbyairsoft

fayer · 12-03-2010 9:07am

Gatling wrote: »

looks very similar to hobbyairsoft

Totally different company. This is some place called Panik Multimedia.

Hobby only trade as Hobby Airsoft, you should know this as they are one of your affiliates

Gatling · 12-03-2010 1:33pm

as i said it looks similar as in set up

gerrowadat · 12-03-2010 1:55pm

fayer wrote: »

Totally different company. This is some place called Panik Multimedia.

Hobby only trade as Hobby Airsoft, you should know this as they are one of your affiliates

Aye, based in mulhuddart. Looks to be mostly muck they're selling in the aeg category.

Sarsoft · 12-03-2010 3:19pm

Gatling wrote: »

looks very similar to hobbyairsoft

Tut Tut Gatling!:p

Airsoft for All aren't related to us be we do supply them with cybergun stock,nice guys they are too!

KonFusion · 13-03-2010 7:53pm

gerrowadat wrote: »

Aye, based in mulhuddart. Looks to be mostly muck they're selling in the aeg category.

Yup

Sarsoft wrote: »

Airsoft for All aren't related to us be we do supply them with cybergun stock,nice guys they are too!

Thanks for that. Someone passed them on to me, felt a bit dodge as I'd never heard of them so thought I'd ask here. Wanted to make sure they were legit, tho I still doubt I'll be buying any of their AEG's....

Do they have a walk in store?

deepimpact · 16-03-2010 12:32am

Are there suppliers of the military version of the Camelbak hydration packs that are local or within the UK that also have the full range of accessories?

Any of the sites I've been looking at have some accessories, but not the full range.

AirsoftForAll · 16-03-2010 8:27am

Hi,

How come that our last message post on this thread was deleted

???

gerrowadat · 16-03-2010 9:40am

AirsoftForAll wrote: »

Hi,

How come that our last message post on this thread was deleted ???

You need to contact the mods to advertise on here.

You also need to please not spam teams inboxes looking for publicity. Provide a good service and support and people will do that.

AirsoftForAll · 16-03-2010 10:56am

Hi Gerrowadat,

I definitely understand your point, it won't happen again please receive my apologies for the little mistake.

To answer other members, we are only selling online and have chosen to not have a walk in store.

Masada · 16-03-2010 11:11am

Yore fecked with the new laws coming in so, you have to have a shop that meets specific requirements of the bill,.

gerrowadat · 16-03-2010 1:28pm

Masada wrote: »

Yore fecked with the new laws coming in so, you have to have a shop that meets specific requirements of the bill,.

Not necessarily, thre just has to be a certain class of premessis, doesn't have to be walkin though.

OzCam · 16-03-2010 2:26pm

scanlant wrote: »

Are there suppliers of the military version of the Camelbak hydration packs that are local or within the UK that also have the full range of accessories?

Any of the sites I've been looking at have some accessories, but not the full range.

www.survivalaids.com seem to have a pretty large range. Click on the Search By Brand menu and select Camelbak. I've bought from these guys many times, they're top-notch.

And Camelbak do gloves as well. Who knew?

deepimpact · 16-03-2010 2:33pm

OzCam wrote: »

www.survivalaids.com seem to have a pretty large range. Click on the Search By Brand menu and select Camelbak. I've bought from these guys many times, they're top-notch.

And Camelbak do gloves as well. Who knew?

Thanks B, every site I've looked at have some of the range, but not everything that I need.

moggser · 16-03-2010 8:58pm

anyone ever see these guys or order from them?

http://www.tokyohobby.net/airsoft-guns/accessories/bb-pellets

Puding · 16-03-2010 9:04pm

would stay clear http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/reviews/retailers/tokyohobby_review.htm run by a known scammer same person runs a string of airsoft fronts

moggser · 16-03-2010 9:14pm

scams on him i paid him in butter vouchers from my nigerian account lol

Thanks puddin i near went for something on there

Shiva · 16-03-2010 9:57pm

Eight years on, and that guy is still in business. Amazing.

OzCam · 16-03-2010 10:17pm

The list of the names he "trades" under is
http://www.wwiiguns.com
http://www.specialforcesweapons.com
http://www.vietnamwar-guns.com
http://www.japanairsoftguns.com
http://www.tokyohobby.net
http://www.tokyotoydistribution.com
Tokyo Central Hobbies

He's been warned about loads of times on this forum before.

It took me 3 months to get a refund out of him, I had to threaten a chargeback to get it.

Stay well clear.

kinkstr · 18-03-2010 9:27pm

Put in an order with pro-t on monday, got no confirmation email after ordering.
Went to log on the site next day and and login was apparently incorrect, despite trying to have the password reset and emailed to me (havent got the email yet after several attempts). Sent him 2 emails, one tuesday morning and one today and still nothing.

gerrowadat · 20-03-2010 10:49pm

Anyone know anyone apart from uktactical that does warrior stuff? There's a holster on there and I reckon I got the last one in OD, and need one in tan as well.

Decoy · 21-03-2010 1:08am

kinkstr wrote: »

Put in an order with pro-t on monday, got no confirmation email after ordering.
Went to log on the site next day and and login was apparently incorrect, despite trying to have the password reset and emailed to me (havent got the email yet after several attempts). Sent him 2 emails, one tuesday morning and one today and still nothing.

Now you have me worried. I ordered on Thursday and, like you, didn't receive a confirmation email. However, my site login is still active and the sire itself does appear to be live as they added another 'new product' since I last checked. The only upside is that I paid with PayPal so if there is an issue I should be covered. I will email them and update here if I get a reply.

hoplite · 21-03-2010 1:14am

I ordered some gear off them last weekend and got it on Friday Mark would not panic just yet. Considering the reasonable price for shipping I was very pleasantly surprised.

Decoy · 21-03-2010 1:46am

Thanks Rob, will cut down on the diazepam for the moment (or should that be increase the dosage?). Did you get any sort of confirmation email with tracking number or did it just arrive?

Sent u a PM, if u get the chance 2 reply

kinkstr · 22-03-2010 2:53pm

Just to update, my gear arrived today from pro-t, sent by good oul EMS, there a bit iffy about answering emails, i opened a paypal dispute to put a fire under him and within 2 hours of it being opened he had emailed me telling me it had been sent but never answered me about not being able to log on his site so maybe his "contact us" form on his website is a bit iffy, either way im happy.
Pretty fast shipping and delivery.

tonyj_mc · 23-03-2010 12:16am

just on pro&t order a few small bits on sunday morning, checked today at six and the stuff had shipped and is on the way already tracking number on site, great turn around time, reckon should have the stuff in about a week

Decoy · 24-03-2010 11:15am

My order arrived today, 4 business days after I placed the order, so kudos to Pro&T for their delivery times especially as their shipping charges are reasonable.

There are a couple of comments I would make though:

It doesn't look like they send out a confirmation email when an order is placed, this gave me a bit of a fright! Having said that, when I emailed them querying this I got a pretty quick reply with my tracking code.
The website isn't the most intuitive. To access your account information you login by using the 'Log In' tab (obviously!) at the top. However, once you have logged in the page doesn't change and your account info is not readily visible. To access this you need to go to the 'Log In' tab to see your information, not the 'Purchase' tab [maybe I'm just weird but it made no sense to me]
They ship with EMS Macau/Macao and the only site I could find to track the delivery was only available in Chinese (?) and Protuguese, not much help. When the package makes its way to Ireland the tracking code works fine on the An Post tracking app.
As I said earlier delivery times are quick given the reasonable price they charge. Another plus is that because An Post deliver it to your door you don't get hit with the ridiculous admin charge some couriers charge. I wasn't charged any customs duties but I don't know if I should have, with couriers I believe you often have to pay duties.
Given how cheap the products are relative to other Far East suppliers the quality is good, but the differences are obvious when you compare the Pro&T products to the genuine article. As examples I got a couple of MBUS, XTM rails covers and an MS2 sling. The plastic on the MBUS & XTM is very obviously lower quality than the genuine Magpul item, and the moulding is nowhere near as good, they weren't even an exact copy of the Magpul design with very obvious differences. The sling was even further from the genuine Magpul kit with the webbing material used nothing like the original and so 'shiny' that it may slip in use. The metal sling fittings were also poor. Don't get me wrong, they all work as required, but are nowhere near as well made as the originals.

To summarise. On early evidence Pro&T appear to be a reliable supplier of very cheap airsoft kit. Don't panic when you don't get a confirmation email. Don't expect premium quality kit at bargain basement prices but it is good enough to get the job done, only the most discerning gucci-ites among us will have an issue with the quality of the accessories.

evilrobotshane · 24-03-2010 11:52am

I'm surprised to see you say that actually. I got a Multi-Mission Sling and MBUS from them too, and while the sling is indeed normal 1-inch tubular webbing, that seems like a fine thing to make a sling from - I've trusted my life to the stuff plenty of times, I'd certainly trust my AEG. The metal fixings on mine seem sturdy and well-cast, the locks are positive, the spring decent - it actually impressed me that maybe a bit of Magpul's revolting fanboyism is earned. Haven't had a chance to play with the MBUS much as the rail on my main AEG sits directly over a wider strip that makes pressing the button impossible, but they certainly seemed grand to me - haven't encountered anything to compare them to so I don't know. What did yours come packaged in? My MBUS were in a green box with nothing else, I think, and the sling in a plastic sleeve with the correct cardboard front and instruction card (not difficult to replicate, of course).

I also got a replica ACOG with Docter sight, with which I'm very pleased indeed. The optics are great, it's solid and the adjustments are quality. It had a G&P sticker on the box but seemed to be half the price. The only problem I've had with it was an attachment hole drilled slightly off-centre, which I sorted by sticking in a plastic shim, but apart from that it's excellent.

Come to think of it, I got a Tokyo Marui speed-loader too, and it's top-notch as well, I'm in no doubt that it's the real deal because I have seen what speed-loaders are like when they're el cheapo, and this sure ain't it.

I'd like to think I know quality kit when I see it (wouldn't we all?), but maybe I'm being led up the garden path. I'm just really surprised to have two so very different experiences from the same place.

Decoy · 24-03-2010 12:49pm

I'm not saying they're compete [EMAIL="cr@p"]cr@p[/EMAIL], all the bits will work as intended, I was merely pointing out that compared to the genuine article (or in my case 1st-gen/tier-1 clones) the materials used and the quality of the mouldings/fittings was poor. Not rubbish. Not inadequate. Just poor. Of course they all work pretty much the same as the real thing but apart from those who can justify/afford the genuine gucci originals (MS2 is $50, set of MBUS is ~$90) who needs the real thing in airsoft, without close examination who could tell the difference?

The boxes looked like they might have been genuine Magpul, even down to the little sticker on the tab. So did the card in the MS2 bag, but as you said printing is the easiest thing to copy.

Would I recommend Pro&T? Yes, I would. But IMO they sell low-cost copies (as opposed to licensed/unlicensed clones) and our fellow airsofters should be aware of this before they buy. To most people it won't make a difference, but wouldn't they rather know in advance?

I will buy from them again but there is a caveat: if and when I manage to find another job I will seriously consider replacing my cheap copies with the genuine article, purely because I would derive more enjoyment from having/using the original kit, and enjoyment is what this game is all about.

kinkstr · 24-03-2010 11:06pm

The 2 ctr stocks i got off pro-t were decent quality for the money, i reckon once he gets established the delivery and shipping times will slip to something similar to ebaybanned, its nice getting packages from ems though, just like the good old days when ya order on a monday and its at your door within a few days.

gerrowadat · 28-03-2010 9:29pm

Anyone know who these guys are - http://shop.fivefivesix.net/

they've got ads appearing on boards. The domain's registered to a UCD student.

Puding · 28-03-2010 9:33pm

the co2 looks good value but the camera has about a 500% mark up

tonyj_mc · 28-03-2010 10:00pm

tonyj_mc wrote: »

just on pro&t order a few small bits on sunday morning, checked today at six and the stuff had shipped and is on the way already tracking number on site, great turn around time, reckon should have the stuff in about a week

should say ordered sunday morning arrived at work thursday afternoon, great service.

ED E · 29-03-2010 8:16pm

Puding wrote: »

the co2 looks good value but the camera has about a 500% mark up

With a decent 8GB, its twice the price of ebay+mymemory.

Troyad21 · 05-04-2010 12:49pm

Hey lads,
Anyone ever have problems with Ehobbyasia?!?!
I've heard great things about them but from my experience, not good.
I ordered a Prometheus barrel on the 21st March, said it shipped March 23rd and still havent got it after paying extra for 3-5 day shipping.
I've emailed them 3 times but they only replied to my first one and the reply I could barely understand.
I know it might not be there fault its late but surely they could have better customer service?!
Any tips would be great.
Cheers.

gian · 05-04-2010 1:40pm

i have ordered from them and they are seriously slow, but if you paid extra from the 3-5days shipping then you should be able to get a partial refund from not recieving it on the said day, anyway dont order from them unless you have the time to wait, here are some shops i recommend...

http://airsoftglobal.com/
http://cobraairsoft.com/
http://www.wgcshop.com/

Troyad21 · 05-04-2010 1:55pm

Cheers Gian i'll have to check them out in future.
I've asked them for a refund on the extra cash I paid...Just have to wait for them to get back to me.

Inari · 06-04-2010 10:29pm

Never had a problem with Ehobby, always been quite speedy delivery and that's on the cheaper option.

Experiences/advice with Airsoft retailers.

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