M1 New Section of D3 (three lanes) at Swords

Wild Bill · 30-01-2012 2:01pm

celticbest wrote: »

Three lanes will be to/from the Lissenhall Junction.

Surprise, surprise, still not a tap done..........

What was the point of giving a start date of 25.01.2012??

To allow for the cones?

celticbest · 31-01-2012 11:52am

5 Days in now and still all we have to show of the works is cones along the central median.........

sgarvan · 31-01-2012 12:46pm

Are they doing any work in the field beside the North bound off ramp at Lissenhall?
I seen diggers moving around in there one day this week

celticbest · 31-01-2012 12:55pm

sgarvan wrote: »

Are they doing any work in the field beside the North bound off ramp at Lissenhall?
I seen diggers moving around in there one day this week

It just seems to be were the site offices are?

Squeaksoutloud · 01-02-2012 12:40am

Those works in the field at the interchange are the site compound in place. Seems there has been overnight and daytime surveys being carried out on the existing road drainage for the last few days hence works have started and is the reason why the cones are out. Looks like the proper traffic management will kick off for full now as those surveys look to be nearly completed.

celticbest · 01-02-2012 9:37am

Squeaksoutloud wrote: »

Those works in the field at the interchange are the site compound in place. Seems there has been overnight and daytime surveys being carried out on the existing road drainage for the last few days hence works have started and is the reason why the cones are out. Looks like the proper traffic management will kick off for full now as those surveys look to be nearly completed.

Surely as this section was only opened in 2003 all underground utilities would have been mapped out as part of the original build and hence there should be no requirement to redouble the work again now.

When the first phase of work began on the D3 upgrade from Junction 2 to Junction 3 works moved in overnight and began immediately.....

Day 6, guess what.............

Still nothing but CONES!!!!!

Also for the duration of the works would it not be possible to have the lane drop at Junction 3 NB in the interest of safety.

cargo · 01-02-2012 10:00am

celticbest wrote: »

Surely as this section was only opened in 2003 all underground utilities would have been mapped out as part of the original build and hence there should be no requirement to redouble the work again now.

When the first phase of work began on the D3 upgrade from Junction 2 to Junction 3 works moved in overnight and began immediately.....

Day 6, guess what.............

Still nothing but CONES!!!!!

Also for the duration of the works would it not be possible to have the lane drop at Junction 3 NB in the interest of safety.

I imagine H&S reasons alone would dictate that the ground to be dug would be manually scanned again no matter what map / drawings Eddie the Engineer could produce on-site. Otherwise we could see a crispy JCB driver chasing Eddie around the motorway some evening (and you know how bad the traffic is in this area already!!)

I'd say the steel barriers will have to go down along the route as well to allow workers stay in close proximity to live lanes. The workers are probably too scared to go out along the route to put them down given all the crashes at the join in the evenings

sgarvan · 01-02-2012 8:12pm

Today FM traffic announcements annouced at 6pm this evening that a change in speed limit will occur from midnight tonight. All signs will be in place by then.

Maybe we will see some progress

cargo · 01-02-2012 9:06pm

sgarvan wrote: »

Today FM traffic announcements annouced at 6pm this evening that a change in speed limit will occur from midnight tonight. All signs will be in place by then.

Maybe we will see some progress

Yeah here's the alert they read out (from aaroadwatch) and also a 2nd one about nightly lane closures (presumably to put traffic management and barriers in place)

http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/AA-Roadwatch/Story.aspx?id=125284

From midnight a new speed limit will come into place on the M1 in both directions between J3 Swords/Drynam and J4 Donabate
A new speed limit will also come into place on the Lissenhall Interchange (R132). Signage will be in place by midnight.

http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/AA-Roadwatch/Story.aspx?id=125090

Northbound lane closures will operate each night from J3 Swords to J4 Lissenhall from 10pm to 6am until Wed 8th Feb approx
Southbound closures will operate at J4 also. Some delays can be expected.

amacachi · 01-02-2012 9:11pm

There's one thing that really annoys me about the future of this work and it's the bridge. It's wide enough for 3 lanes each way but where the right-hand lane in each direction would be they concreted over the whole lot. Why the hell didn't they just tarmac it in the first place? Sure it'll "only" be a few extra days of work but when they're working on the bridge they'll likely have to put it down to one lane each way since there's no hard shoulder.

Irish and Proud · 01-02-2012 11:09pm

amacachi wrote: »

<snip>Sure it'll "only" be a few extra days of work but when they're working on the bridge they'll likely have to put it down to one lane each way since there's no hard shoulder.

No, they surely won't be allow do that - especially during peak times. The contractors might have to do the bridge works at night if they need possession of a lane each way during construction activity.

Regards!

Squeaksoutloud · 02-02-2012 12:12am

celticbest wrote: »

Surely as this section was only opened in 2003 all underground utilities would have been mapped out as part of the original build and hence there should be no requirement to redouble the work again now.

Its the drainage that probably needs to be cctv surveyed to check the condition of it...not the actual locations. You would generally see some degradation and it would need blasting out if the drainage is connecting into it.

sgarvan · 02-02-2012 9:26am

cargo wrote: »

http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/AA-Roadwatch/Story.aspx?id=125284

From midnight a new speed limit will come into place on the M1 in both directions between J3 Swords/Drynam and J4 Donabate
A new speed limit will also come into place on the Lissenhall Interchange (R132). Signage will be in place by midnight.

Road down to 100km.

celticbest · 02-02-2012 9:45am

sgarvan wrote: »

Road down to 100km.

Much better than the last set of upgrade works when it was only 60km/h.

Irish and Proud · 02-02-2012 2:05pm

I used the Lissenhall Interchange yesterday and noticed nothing in the line of road works there - let's hope thing start moving on the M1 now that a special speed limit is in force there since last night. I believe there's also a speed limit on the R132 through Lissenhall - is it 60kph? - can anyone confirm?

Many Thanks!

Carawaystick · 02-02-2012 9:14pm

went this way today,
going South the limit drops to 100 south of the estuary, and then down to 60 near the Malahide road overbridge. It then goes back up to 80:eek: immediately after the 3 lanes appear and the end of road works section

Going north, the limit was 100 from the airport junction and then went to 60. I decided to be a cnut and drive along at 60 and held up a fair few trucks and cars, it's very slow. The limit goes to 100 again near the Malahide road.

The limit is now 50 through the Lissenhall junction on the r132

The speed limit signs seem to be bare metal squares with the round symbols on them, the surrounding bit of sign is very shiny

sgarvan · 03-02-2012 9:11am

Carawaystick wrote: »

went this way today,
going South the limit drops to 100 south of the estuary, and then down to 60 near the Malahide road overbridge. It then goes back up to 80:eek: immediately after the 3 lanes appear and the end of road works section

Going north, the limit was 100 from the airport junction and then went to 60. I decided to be a cnut and drive along at 60 and held up a fair few trucks and cars, it's very slow. The limit goes to 100 again near the Malahide road.

The limit is now 50 through the Lissenhall junction on the r132

The speed limit signs seem to be bare metal squares with the round symbols on them, the surrounding bit of sign is very shiny

Was just about to post this after relaising the change in speed limit yesterday evening and this morning. 60kph is far to slow. Still no work started

celticbest · 03-02-2012 9:57am

sgarvan wrote: »

Still no work started

DAY 7 of 'Works'.........

Davy · 03-02-2012 7:51pm

Their was signs being put out on the hard shoulder of the M50 at junction 3, just before the slip to airport/m1. Im presuming it was for this, as the distance was 800m (i think)

Wild Bill · 03-02-2012 9:09pm

Waiting for Go......

Irish and Proud · 03-02-2012 9:56pm

Squeaksoutloud wrote: »

Its the drainage that probably needs to be cctv surveyed to check the condition of it...not the actual locations. You would generally see some degradation and it would need blasting out if the drainage is connecting into it.

I remember, during the M1 J2 to J3 widening works, the hard shoulders were closed for quite a while - even though all 6 lanes were open to traffic. It was probably for drainage work etc - maybe SIAC are front-loading such works this time so as to avoid prolonged hard shoulder closures in the latter stages of the contract.

Regards!

Irish and Proud · 03-02-2012 10:07pm

Davy wrote: »

Their was signs being put out on the hard shoulder of the M50 at junction 3, just before the slip to airport/m1. Im presuming it was for this, as the distance was 800m (i think)

...well I just checked my OS map and reckon that the Drynam Interchange (where the current M1 widening works start) is around 4km from that point - the signs you mentioned probably refer to something else.

Regards!

Davy · 03-02-2012 10:39pm

Irish and Proud wrote: »

...well I just checked my OS map and reckon that the Drynam Interchange (where the current M1 widening works start) is around 4km from that point - the signs you mentioned probably refer to something else.

Regards!

Thats what I was thinking, but the only other thing i could find was this (http://www.aaireland.ie/AA/AA-Roadwatch/Story.aspx?id=125334) but then the signs would after the road works

Irish and Proud · 07-02-2012 1:12am

(image self refreshing)

As of 07/02/2012 @ 00:11 - looks like some of the Solid Yellow Line has been burned off - also note what looks like some new armco barrier near the bottom left corner of the image.

Regards!

sgarvan · 07-02-2012 9:13am

both lanes south bound are moved to the left by about 1 metre. Traffic joins with the left and middle lane at Drynam now

sgarvan · 08-02-2012 9:12am

Metal road works barriers in place and a JCB placed just after before the 3 lanes at Drynam

Carawaystick · 09-02-2012 9:20pm

Last Monday, eircom contractors were rooting around in ducts near the Lissenhall junction.

Irish and Proud · 09-02-2012 10:39pm

sgarvan wrote: »

Metal road works barriers in place and a JCB placed just after before the 3 lanes at Drynam

Since last night, it seems that in the area of the Drynam Flyover, both carriageways have been pushed out (remarked) and armco barriers installed. I guess the contractors will work their way up towards Lissenhall with the same arrangement being put in place section by section.

Regards!

Wild Bill · 10-02-2012 2:13am

Carawaystick wrote: »

Last Monday, eircom contractors were rooting around in ducts near the Lissenhall junction.

That's always a good sign

sgarvan · 13-02-2012 9:36pm

Good to see some work started today. Some of the hedges are removed from the centre and some digging has started.

Wild Bill · 13-02-2012 10:06pm

sgarvan wrote: »

Good to see some work started today. Some of the hedges are removed from the centre and some digging has started.

Digging is good.

Irish and Proud · 20-02-2012 11:10pm

Wild Bill wrote: »

Digging is good.

Understatement!

Drove the M1 SB this morning and the traffic cams (which show little or nothing happening) totally belies the reality - a good stretch of the median is dug up and at least, the SB 3rd lane is well underway - things seem to be proceeding in the way that the previous widening works did - this does bode quite well IMO.

Nothing to report at Lissenhall yet - drove there NB this afternoon.

Regards!

Irish and Proud · 21-02-2012 9:51pm

I've seens bits of the R132 resurfacing jobs last Tuesday including the Pinnock Hill Roundabout which is now completely resurfaced. A stretch of the N1 between Drumcondra and Whitehall has been resurfaced too and it's very smooth and well marked - well done DCC! I must travel the R132 from Santry to Swords to have a good look at the recent work by FCC there - I also hope to see the beginnings of the R132 DC Upgrade at the Airport.

Regards!

Irish and Proud · 21-02-2012 9:58pm

The tender drawings (Revision B02) differ from the draft (Revision A01) in that the cycle lanes are now 'behind verge' affairs - this will narrow the overall road profile by 1.5m each way - all junction slips and movements have been retained as far as I can see.

Original Post:

Irish and Proud wrote: »

Work on the the R132 dual carriageway from Collinstown Cross to Airport Roundabout is due to get underway shortly according to Fingal County Council's website as this page shows!

The work consists of upgrading approximately 1.3km of existing 4 lane single carriageway (I've included the makeshift bit) to Dual 3 lane (1 bus lane and 2 general traffic lanes each way) - also included is a 1.5m on-road cycle lane each way bringing the carriageway pavements to 11.75m (1.5m + 3.25m + 3.5m + 3.5m) each.

Regards!

Revision:

The work consists of upgrading approximately 1.3km of existing 4 lane single carriageway (I've included the makeshift bit) to Dual 3 lane (1 bus lane and 2 general traffic lanes each way) - also included is a 1.5m off-road cycle lane along with a 2.0m footpath each way. Therefore, the carriageway pavements will be 10.25m (3.25m (bus lane) + 3.5m + 3.5m) each.

Regards!

Carawaystick · 21-02-2012 11:50pm

Yeah, from between the Malahide road overbridge and Kinsealy overbridge, the 3rd lane was down to subsoil( i.e. topsoil and some subsoil) has been removed.

northbound less progress.

Overall, there seems to be less disruption than the last works, the traffic is only moved about 1m left, and there's still a hard shoulder.

Eircom lads working again today near Lisenhall junction, must be a load of services going through it.

Still joke of speed limits though.
80 southbound after the roadworks end i.e. on the first 3-lane section from holywell junction.
100 northbound from the end of roadworks sign at the Malahide road.

spacetweek · 22-02-2012 9:38am

Irish and Proud wrote: »

Regards!

Wrong thread?

Irish and Proud · 22-02-2012 1:59pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Wrong thread?

Now that you say it, I think there is a R132 thread - I'll try and dig it up!

Regards!

dcr22B · 22-02-2012 2:49pm

Irish and Proud wrote: »

Now that you say it, I think there is a R132 thread - I'll try and dig it up!

Regards!

There was an R132 thread in "Dublin County North" IIRC

Irish and Proud · 27-02-2012 11:49pm

I've been on the M1 Southbound (Jct 4 to Jct 3) today and work is progressing well. The median is dug up between the Drynam Interchange and the Malahide Road bridge. It shouldn't be too long till the median work starts becoming visible in DCC Traffic Camera #112 (M1 / Malahide Estuary) - I'm pretty sure the bridge in the background is that of the Malahide Road.

What could also be clearly seen while driving was the presence of hardcore for the 3rd lane Southbound. For obvious reasons, I wasn't in any position to take photos - maybe the next time when I have a passenger or two with me. Didn't see anything at Lissenhall though.

Regards!

Wild Bill · 28-02-2012 9:41pm

Don't see any cones

Irish and Proud · 28-02-2012 9:43pm

It's me again!

This time, I've found a new PDF document on FCC site showing a revised layout (Sept 2011) for the Lissenhall Interchange - as far as I can see, the road layout remains very much the same, apart from the M1 SB on-ramp where priority on both lanes is given to traffic coming from the R132 - the left slip from Hearse Road goes into a yield instead. The main changes are in the addition of 4 underpasses for cyclists and pedestrians in at least one case. Special loops for cyclists are featured. There is no underpass across the M1 SB off-ramp - if I remember correctly, it was not possible due to services etc according to Council Minutes.

With the above said, here's the LINK! (PDF File - 2183KB)

Enjoy!

Wild Bill · 29-02-2012 10:45pm

A spaghetti junction for cyclists!

Kumsheen · 01-03-2012 11:43am

Are those traffic lights for cyclists to cross the various junctions or are they underpasses?

Irish and Proud · 01-03-2012 1:54pm

Kumsheen wrote: »

Are those traffic lights for cyclists to cross the various junctions or are they underpasses?

AFAIK, the cyclists will cross the M1 North on-ramp and off-ramp, M1 South on-ramp and Hearse Road via underpasses (4 in all). However, they will still have to cross the M1 South off-ramp at grade along with the pedestrians - I think there's a problem regarding underground services at that location. I guess the increase in cost would not be insignificant given the traffic diversions that would be required to insert the underpass structures - presuming that is, they are underpasses.

Regards!

Irish and Proud · 01-03-2012 2:06pm

Wild Bill wrote: »

A spaghetti junction for cyclists!

...well that's what came to my mind too - given that the cycle manual would be IMO unworkable in many cases, grade separation might be the only option for cyclists regarding most major traffic junctions. The DLRCC Cherrywood Draft Plan is out and a new line of thinking regarding cycle routes seems to be in diverting them away from major urban roads such as the N11 Bray Road DC. The desire is to route a cycle route from Cherrywood to Bray (2 loose options I think) while avoiding the N11 DC altogether.

Regards!

Wild Bill · 01-03-2012 9:18pm

Irish and Proud wrote: »

.The desire is to route a cycle route from Cherrywood to Bray (2 loose options I think) while avoiding the N11 DC altogether.

They'll need and underpass/overbridge at the M11 for that.

There are cycle bridges/tunnels through a few M50 junctions; J11 (Tallaght) and J6 (Navan) are two I can think of.

Nothing like the proposed Lissenhall cyclist's wonderland though!

Irish and Proud · 01-03-2012 11:33pm

Wild Bill wrote: »

They'll need and underpass/overbridge at the M11 for that.

There are cycle bridges/tunnels through a few M50 junctions; J11 (Tallaght) and J6 (Navan) are two I can think of.

Nothing like the proposed Lissenhall cyclist's wonderland though!

Looking at this map, I think one idea is to take a cycleway across the old rail viaduct above the Cherrywood Road and then on into the grounds of Loughlinstown Hospital (large building in the centre of map). From there, the route would go across a new bridge over the N11 and would then join up with the old Dublin Road through Shankill. I think it would be sensible to use the old viaduct given the now unlikely nature of the LUAS B2 Extension to Fassaroe ever going ahead. I must look into the Cherrywood Draft Planning Scheme in more detail.

Must get back to the M1 topic before the Mods are down here!

spacetweek · 02-03-2012 2:16pm

Not sure why you think B2 won't go ahead.

Irish and Proud · 02-03-2012 5:41pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Not sure why you think B2 won't go ahead.

To me, it depended on significant property development at Fassaroe and you know the story with property now - also look at the LUAS B1 Extension to Cherrywood - I rode it recently around late morning to noon and there was just myself and another guy left by the time we got to the final stop - like me, he just got back on, so apart from those on curiosity visits, there was not one passenger getting off at Cherrywood - will be some time before even the Cherrywood SDZ is developed let alone Fassaroe IMO.

However, if anybody wants to continue discussing the LUAS B2 Extension (I know I brought it up here), the subject will have to taken up on the Infrastructure Forum - I think there is a specific LUAS B2 thread there - I might dig it up.

Regards!

Wild Bill · 02-03-2012 10:35pm

Irish and Proud wrote: »

I think it would be sensible to use the old viaduct given the now unlikely nature of the LUAS B2 Extension to Fassaroe ever going ahead.

Never say never!

If the economy ever recovers from our self-inflicted debt mountain then Fassaroe and Cherrywood are obvious areas for the first green shoots of growth.

M1 New Section of D3 (three lanes) at Swords

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