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    #4022
    TheManFromTipp
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    Lidl are reopening tomorrow at 8am..


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    #4023
    Clonmel1000
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    TheManFromTipp wrote: »
    Lidl are reopening tomorrow at 8am..

    Fantastic looking store in fairness. Mr Price a large UK discount store also opening


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    #4024
    cml387
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    TheManFromTipp wrote: »
    Lidl are reopening tomorrow at 8am..

    Great news. Suffering Lidl withdrawal symptoms (well ok I have Mitchelstown and Cashel and Carrick and....)


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    #4025
    TheManFromTipp
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    Fantastic looking store in fairness. Mr Price a large UK discount store also opening

    When is the Mr Price store opening?


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    #4026
    tippspur
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Just wondering does anybody know when the Christmas lights are being switched on or are they switched on all ready?
    Thanks In advance!
    I was in around the Town last Saturday and noticed that the Xmas lights weren't even up yet.


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    #4027
    It wasnt me123
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    tippspur wrote: »
    I was in around the Town last Saturday and noticed that the Xmas lights weren't even up yet.

    They are on down Mitchel Street and look lovely. Very festive


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    #4028
    johnny_adidas
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    Lights in town are being completely replaced this year, including all the cabling between each strand. Narrow St was completed first I believe


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    #4029
    [Deleted User]
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    This is a bummer with Christmas around the corner. "It's been announced that SuperValu in the centre of the South Tipp town will shut down next month" http://tippfm.com/news/news_detail/jobs_blow_for_clonmel


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    #4030
    pooch90
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    TheManFromTipp wrote: »
    When is the Mr Price store opening?

    Passed it this evening and it looked open or ready to open with lights on and signage in place.


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    #4031
    pooch90
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    TheManFromTipp wrote: »
    When is the Mr Price store opening?

    Passed it this evening and it looked open or ready to open with lights on and signage in place.


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    #4032
    freshpopcorn
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    pooch90 wrote: »
    Passed it this evening and it looked open or ready to open with lights on and signage in place.

    Just saw on Facebook Mr Price is opening on the 10th December.


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    F34
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    This is a bummer with Christmas around the corner. "It's been announced that SuperValu in the centre of the South Tipp town will shut down next month" http://tippfm.com/news/news_detail/jobs_blow_for_clonmel

    Have no doubt this is mainly down to the rates in Market Place, there will be nothing left there soon which is a crying shame. Unfortunately the people we elected seem more concerned about wasting money by bringing back the Town Council than actually tackling the rates issue throughout the county indeed from what Ms.Ambrose said in the Vincent Brown peoples debate she doesn't see anything wrong with the high rates in Clonmel.


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    #4034
    GoldFour4
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    It's quite frankly appealing that that fine store will have to close because of the high rates being imposed on the area. That area used to be great to walk through, I think there's only one or two shops there now. Most of the business is being done outside town.


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    #4035
    Vizzy
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    malistheman wrote: »
    It's quite frankly appealing that that fine store will have to close because of the high rates being imposed on the area. That area used to be great to walk through, I think there's only one or two shops there now. Most of the business is being done outside town.

    I would be interested to find out what percentage of overall "operating cost" that rates represent.
    How high are rents in what is left of Market place ?


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    #4036
    Clonmel1000
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    Would think this is more of a commercial decision by SuperValu than anything to do with rates tbh. Currently in Clonmel there is a massive Tesco a massive new Lidl M&S Aldi SuperValu in Poppyfield 2 Dunnes Stores and a host of smaller discount grocery stores. I accept what others have said about high rates but regardless once SuperQuinn was taken over by SuperValu the writing was on the wall. Anybody got any suggestions for what could be done with the site now?


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    #4037
    notharrypotter
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    Post 3861 gives detail on the rates for market place and the Town in general.


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    #4038
    freshpopcorn
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    Supervalue seem to be cutting towns with two stores down to one store. Happened in Newcastle West, Tipp town, Athy and now Clonmel. Not really surprised that one of the stores closed and if I was Supervalue I'd definitely be keeping the out of town store with free parking open.


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    #4039
    Maymack
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    Great news to see Mr Price opening soon, creating new jobs & filling a building that was lying idle for years.
    On the other hand,very sad news for staff in SuperValu market place losing their jobs so close to Christmas. Hopefully some of the staff will get an opportunity to work in SuperValu poppyfields.
    Market place is gone down the drain.
    That area used to be buzzing. Its shame that its been left fall apart. Feel sorry for the business left there. The landlords don't seem to care about it or its tenants. A lick of paint on the outside isn't going to attract new tenants. I think the whole area needs to get redeveloped. Build an indoor shopping centre or roof the area that's open. Some of the units could be combined to attract larger shops. I hope the council & the landlord wake up & do something before its all gone.


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    #4040
    GoldFour4
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    Would think this is more of a commercial decision by SuperValu than anything to do with rates tbh. Currently in Clonmel there is a massive Tesco a massive new Lidl M&S Aldi SuperValu in Poppyfield 2 Dunnes Stores and a host of smaller discount grocery stores. I accept what others have said about high rates but regardless once SuperQuinn was taken over by SuperValu the writing was on the wall. Anybody got any suggestions for what could be done with the site now?

    Yeah I think there's an element to that but I think if the rates were lower you choose the town centre store. I wouldn't be surprised to see people who would have shopped in the Supervalu in market place head out to Lidl/Dunnes direction now rather than to the poppy fields.


    The two cafes in that area will really feel the pinch now without the weekly shoppers heading in for a bit of lunch.


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    #4041
    TrustedApple
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    Am i the only one who found that store to be completely useless ?. And is not shocked its closing down ?. I was there a few times over the summer and loads of the stuff was gone off on the sheffs and loads of things where black LoL.

    I fell sorry for the people who are losing the jobs but no shock it was going as was told by a manager who moved to the Kilkenny store during the summer that it was going to go really soon.


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    #4042
    Xenophile
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    Knock it down and make a car park out of it, a few good coffee shops in the area would benefit, I can think of 5 within a three minutes walk.

    More car parking space needed for, Post Office, swimming pool, library, and Council offices and band hall and of course a very good Museum.

    Bad idea first day to give planning permission for a supermarket at that location, with no facility for deliveries etc. So maybe widen that street which goes out to Kickham Street.

    I think a good case could be made for a compulsory purchase order as Super Value are now very close to being Ireland's number one retailer!

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    #4043
    road_high
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Supervalue seem to be cutting towns with two stores down to one store. Happened in Newcastle West, Tipp town, Athy and now Clonmel. Not really surprised that one of the stores closed and if I was Supervalue I'd definitely be keeping the out of town store with free parking open.

    One in Carlow gone too. I remember Superquinn expanded out of Dublin about 1994 and they opened three stores in Carlow, Kilkenny and Clonmel. The shopping centres were all developed by the sane developer and similar tenants. Carlow and Clonmel have had big out of town developments since, Kilkenny less so. The SV store here had a major revamp last year by comparison.


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    #4044
    road_high
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    Xenophile wrote: »
    Knock it down and make a car park out of it, a few good coffee shops in the area would benefit, I can think of 5 within a three minutes walk.

    More car parking space needed for, Post Office, swimming pool, library, and Council offices and band hall and of course a very good Museum.

    Bad idea first day to give planning permission for a supermarket at that location, with no facility for deliveries etc. So maybe widen that street which goes out to Kickham Street.

    I think a good case could be made for a compulsory purchase order as Super Value are now very close to being Ireland's number one retailer!

    Knocking a supermarket and development to make way for a soulless car park is a very bad idea and will do nothing to help the town. That's 1960's planning. I don't know Clonmel very well but the town centre was reasonably good if I remember. Could they get another retailer in? Perhaps TK Maxx or something? (Not sure if they're there already).


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    #4045
    zurbfoundation
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    agree with the road where the deliveries are made, can be a very tight spot when people are also double parking to post letters.

    wouldn't be knocking it down however, its not much more than 20 years old - why would you want a car park there (there is a ver large car park already there). Town centre car parking isn't as bad as people like to make out imho


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    #4046
    Jakey Rolling
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    A bit of radical thinking wouldn't go amiss, rather than trying to repurpose an unsuitable building.

    Knock it, replace with a multi storey car park with some retail/office frontage. Turn car park behind Mr Bumbles into green space and playpark.

    Cover the Market Place pedestrian area with canopy (similar to what's proposed for the Barracks Site). This would encourage eateries to open with outside seating, generally attract shoppers in bad weather. Landlord (single owner of most of these units?) should be glad to contribute.

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    #4047
    Mountainsandh
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    Green space and playpark where the carpark is would be a brilliant idea. A canopied area too! Although what is badly needed too and could bring business is a proper concert/theatre venue, if that could be combined with carpark, which it probably can, Clonmel is not Tokyo ffs. Plenty of scope for underground parking etc... and a higher building in that spot wouldn't be a massive visual shock, what with high enough Church and the Mill type tower.


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    #4048
    zurbfoundation
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    a concert/theatre venue had been mooted for the army barracks redevelopment but it seems to have been dropped - so it seems like a project like that is a long way away


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    #4049
    Mountainsandh
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    zurbfoundation wrote: »
    a concert/theatre venue had been mooted for the army barracks redevelopment but it seems to have been dropped - so it seems like a project like that is a long way away

    Do you know why or who dropped it zurbfoundation ?

    I don't remember seeing anything about a venue there, but I didn't read everything thoroughly.


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    #4050
    cml387
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    I agree that it's unlikely rates had anything to do with Supervalue closing. It was on a downward spiral since Superquinn sold out to that property company who were totally unsuitable to run a supermarket chain (do you remember the horrible black redecoration job that was done on the store after they took over).

    It's sad though.I remember the razzmatazz and excitement when Superquinn opened in Clonmel.


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    #4051
    secondrowgal
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    cml387 wrote: »
    I agree that it's unlikely rates had anything to do with Supervalue closing. It was on a downward spiral since Superquinn sold out to that property company who were totally unsuitable to run a supermarket chain (do you remember the horrible black redecoration job that was done on the store after they took over).

    It's sad though.I remember the razzmatazz and excitement when Superquinn opened in Clonmel.

    I was in there this morning, and the staff are all putting on a brave face, but it's devastating for them. Closing 22/01/2016. I would also say that it will have a terrible knock-on effect on O'Tuama's and the other cafe. And the little newsagents, although I recommend everyone buy their Yankee candles in there :) Good value!!


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