Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

Hersheys · 19-08-2013 12:38am

I can't verbalise what I am thinking or feeling right now, meaning therapy will be a waste and no chance of telling doc what's in my head.

tosspot15 · 19-08-2013 12:47am

Hersheys wrote: »

I can't verbalise what I am thinking or feeling right now, meaning therapy will be a waste and no chance of telling doc what's in my head.

I think if you tell him exactly this, he might try help you to express what you are feeling.

murria · 19-08-2013 12:54am

tosspot15 wrote: »

Just for the record, I'm 21.

I realise that. Certainly didnt mean to offend you. But Im sure you were assessed by an Ed. Psychologist when you were still in school. I was just pointing out how its easy to get neglected by medical world when you are out of the system and its only you up against things.

Esel · 19-08-2013 12:58am

tosspot15 wrote: »

I'm really up and down too. Seems like for 2 weeks straight I feel so miserable and raging with anger/frustration, then I'm fine for a week and happy, rinse and repeat.

Tell your GP about this.

tosspot15 wrote: »

I was diagnosed with "depressive disorder" in 2010, after my educational psychologist referred me to a psychiatrist. But that was kind of the end of the line, they didnt put me on meds for depression/anxiety, instead meds to help my concentration. But those still helped a great deal.

I've never had any follow up visits or calls back to them. My GP has never been involved with it, alls I know is that its on my medical notes in their office.

Tell the GP all this too.

Anahita · 19-08-2013 2:50pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Well done, think you've managed the toughest hurdle..

It's tough. Painful. Sucks but there are very good strong men and women here supporting me, and to them, I have to say, thanks for saving my life.

On a loop of David Gray Forgetting still.

Crawling then walking
Then running and sweating
Forgetting

Lying and cheating
Aiding and abetting
Forgetting

Itching and scratching
And punching and hitting
Forgetting, forgetting
Forgetting, forgetting

Reminding, rewinding
Removing, regretting
Forgetting

Your smiles at the wake
And your tears at the wedding

Forgetting, forgetting
Forgetting, forgetting
Forgetting, forgetting
Forgetting

Spellbound and hell-bound
And caught in the netting
Forgetting

A wiping it clean
A minute Armageddon
Forgetting, forgetting
Forgetting, forgetting

Forgetting, forgetting
Forgetting
Forgetting, forgetting
Forgetting

Read more: David Gray - Forgetting Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Hersheys · 19-08-2013 3:55pm

tosspot15 wrote: »

I think if you tell him exactly this, he might try help you to express what you are feeling.

Ok so spoke with therapist to try verbalise and make sense of my head. And bizarrely it worked. So gonna talk to the doc and take it from there.

delthedriver · 19-08-2013 4:03pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Ok so spoke with therapist to try verbalise and make sense of my head. And bizarrely it worked. So gonna talk to the doc and take it from there.

Well done!:)

Gremlinertia · 21-08-2013 7:45am

Nothing like physical pain to put you back down in the pits..

Hersheys · 21-08-2013 8:36am

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Nothing like physical pain to put you back down in the pits..

Sending you virtual pain meds

Gremlinertia · 21-08-2013 8:48am

Dosed to the gills - thank feck not working. Telly and self pity day.

Hersheys · 21-08-2013 2:12pm

Just a general query - does anybody get physical symptoms such as pain / vomiting / IBS symptoms - after triggers related to past trauma?

Gremlinertia · 21-08-2013 2:21pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Just a general query - does anybody get physical symptoms such as pain / vomiting / IBS symptoms - after triggers related to past trauma?

Yup, stress has odd effects on digestive systems for me, other people do different things, for instance hyperventilating - while worrying it's symptomatic so trauma still remains the top issue. (Probably very obvious but it took me years to figure out

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Hersheys · 21-08-2013 9:07pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Yup, stress has odd effects on digestive systems for me, other people do different things, for instance hyperventilating - while worrying it's symptomatic so trauma still remains the top issue. (Probably very obvious but it took me years to figure out )

Yeah I get pretty severe GI symptoms... Been hospitalised on numerous occasions for the pain & puking etc. Trying to figure out if it could be related to the stress or if its purely coincidental.

Pro crastinator · 21-08-2013 9:21pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Yeah I get pretty severe GI symptoms... Been hospitalised on numerous occasions for the pain & puking etc. Trying to figure out if it could be related to the stress or if its purely coincidental.

Definitely stress. Chronic elevated cortisol >> dysregulation of the HPA axis >> mood disorders, IBS, chronic fatigue and other chronic conditions. I've awful GI pain & cramping recently, was checked for gallstones etc but nothing showed up. It's probably IBS-like symptoms from years of anxiety combined with drugs that make me constipated.

Been researching lately what's scientifically proven to reduce cortisol in an effort to help myself get well. Magnesium and omega-3 supplements are good. As is music/movement therapy (think listening to music you love, tai-chi, yoga, dance, even just an oul stroll). Laughter is scientifically proven to reduce cortisol, so get watching some comedy. Also black tea!

Other general stress-relief activities couldn't hurt like meditation, reading a good book, relaxation techniques etc. I'm building up my stress-relief arsenal, do post any other suggestions you have

RubyXI · 23-08-2013 7:54am

Hi guys, do you think making an offer on a house by email is acceptable if you're too scared to do it over the phone?

Gremlinertia · 23-08-2013 10:46am

phi3 wrote: »

Hi guys, do you think making an offer on a house is acceptable if you're too scared to do it over the phone?

What way are you intending on making the offer?

RubyXI · 23-08-2013 10:57am

Gremlinertia wrote: »

What way are you intending on making the offer?

Sorry! By email.

Gremlinertia · 23-08-2013 11:05am

phi3 wrote: »

Sorry! By email.

No worries, yeah mail away, a sale is a sale they should be fine with it.. Suppose they might want to check you are genuine, but sure you'll have paperwork for that.. Best of luck too!

delthedriver · 23-08-2013 12:56pm

phi3 wrote: »

Hi guys, do you think making an offer on a house by email is acceptable if you're too scared to do it over the phone?

Are you really ready to make an offer on the house? Whether making an offer by phone or email, are you certain this is the house for you.
Purchasing an house is one of the most stressful times in one's life. Take a deep breath and make sure it is the one for you:)

RubyXI · 23-08-2013 2:09pm

delthedriver wrote: »

Are you really ready to make an offer on the house? Whether making an offer by phone or email, are you certain this is the house for you.
Purchasing an house is one of the most stressful times in one's life. Take a deep breath and make sure it is the one for you:)

I know. I've been thinking about it for three weeks. Been drawing plans and making pros and cons lists and working out my finances. I know it's really stressful. But I don't think it's going to get any less stressful if i leave it another few years.
Is it the perfect house? I don't know. I do worry that as soon as I buy it, a better one will come along the next day. But again this is something that's always going to be a problem. I am really stressed about it though. Keep thinking of problems like how does one fit a sofa through doorways and upstairs!

delthedriver · 23-08-2013 4:36pm

phi3 wrote: »

I know. I've been thinking about it for three weeks. Been drawing plans and making pros and cons lists and working out my finances. I know it's really stressful. But I don't think it's going to get any less stressful if i leave it another few years.
Is it the perfect house? I don't know. I do worry that as soon as I buy it, a better one will come along the next day. But again this is something that's always going to be a problem. I am really stressed about it though. Keep thinking of problems like how does one fit a sofa through doorways and upstairs!

Buying a house should not be the most important thing in your life. Your health is far more important.
There are lots of house buyers in Ireland who for various reasons now regret ever buying a property.
My best advice is don't stress yourself, even if it means deferring the purchase of your home for another 6 or 12 months.
If you are getting very stressed now , will proceeding with the purchase now, make you feel more or less stressed?
The Irish Property Market remains in turmoil, there is never a good time to buy or sell.
Remember it is your decision, don't get carried away with so called experts talking about property price rises on the way. It is complete bull****, people who have personal interests in trying to stir the market. Like the value of shares may rise as well as fall.
If you feel you have found the right house and can afford it,make your own informed decision. Consider it a bit like a marriage, it is a long term commitment which you will take on board , in sickness and in health.
I am not suggesting not to buy an house nor getting married either, simply don't put the house first ,ahead of your health .
There will be plenty more houses to choose from. If you like the area the house is in but are having cold feet about buying, perhaps rent a similar property in the same development for 12 months and at least satisfy yourself that it is the right area for you.
Whatever you decide, be happy and healthy!
Feel free to post again , perhaps there are other aspects to consider or satisfy.:)

RubyXI · 23-08-2013 5:09pm

I think buying a house is always going to be stressful. I know that if I decided not to do it just because I'm too big a coward would upset me a lot more in the long term. I don't want all that stuff to put my life on hold anymore. If I see a house I want to buy surely I should be allowed buy it just like anyone else.
Yes I am nervous about making phone calls. I'm afraid that me offering below the asking will make him laugh at me. I know it's ridiculous so I'm trying to find ways to make it a bit easier for me.

delthedriver · 23-08-2013 5:15pm

phi3 wrote: »

I think buying a house is always going to be stressful. I know that if I decided not to do it just because I'm too big a coward would upset me a lot more in the long term. I don't want all that stuff to put my life on hold anymore. If I see a house I want to buy surely I should be allowed buy it just like anyone else.
Yes I am nervous about making phone calls. I'm afraid that me offering below the asking will make him laugh at me. I know it's ridiculous so I'm trying to find ways to make it a bit easier for me.

Absolutely you should buy an house , just like anyone else.

I would not care about offering below the asking price and someone laughing at me.

Go for it!

delthedriver · 23-08-2013 10:15pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Yeah I get pretty severe GI symptoms... Been hospitalised on numerous occasions for the pain & puking etc. Trying to figure out if it could be related to the stress or if its purely coincidental.

Been hospitalised a number of times.

Stress caused symptoms of a heart attack, Chest pain,vomiting, high blood pressure.

Also had arthroscopy and colonoscopy on several occasions, pain in chest , stomach, coughing blood, passing blood, all of these issues were stress related, confirmed by my Consultant Gastroenterologist

NegativeCreep · 24-08-2013 12:49am

I CANNOT DEAL WITH BEING UP AND DOWN CONSTANTLY ANYMORE!!! Jesus I wish it would just stop.

Hersheys · 24-08-2013 2:05pm

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I CANNOT DEAL WITH BEING UP AND DOWN CONSTANTLY ANYMORE!!! Jesus I wish it would just stop.

Hang in there. On pm if you want. I don't want to make assumptions so I won't but could you see yourself talking to a doctor about it? And if you are on meds getting them adjusted? Meds help the ups and downs.

NegativeCreep · 24-08-2013 4:17pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Hang in there. On pm if you want. I don't want to make assumptions so I won't but could you see yourself talking to a doctor about it? And if you are on meds getting them adjusted? Meds help the ups and downs.

I will at some stage. I just don't have the money for it now.

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 5:52pm

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I will at some stage. I just don't have the money for it now.

Would a medical card be an option NC?

NegativeCreep · 24-08-2013 6:08pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

Would a medical card be an option NC?

I don't qualify unfortunately.

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 6:25pm

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I don't qualify unfortunately.

That's rough. I know how expensive meds can be without one.

NegativeCreep · 24-08-2013 6:32pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

That's rough. I know how expensive meds can be without one.

That's the thing. It's only meds that would cost anything because I have a GP visit card. Not sure I actually want meds anyway

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 6:43pm

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Not sure I actually want meds anyway

How are you handling it without them NC?

Hersheys · 24-08-2013 6:48pm

I came off meds 2 months ago. Its tough, but something I feel I'm able to do. The door always remains open to go back on them if I need.

I'm losing my medical card in December it would seem. Dreading it - I need regular doctor check ups for other long term illnesses and my meds for those (asthma, tummy stuff) cost a fortune! I don't mind paying for the doctor - that'd e50 every month or two, but I can't face the e140 a month!

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 7:07pm

Jesus I don't know if I could ever come off mine. I would love to though.

Hersheys · 24-08-2013 7:34pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »

Jesus I don't know if I could ever come off mine. I would love to though.

Do you see a therapist? And what is your diagnosis (if you don't mind me asking?)

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 7:39pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Do you see a therapist? And what is your diagnosis (if you don't mind me asking?)

I have clinical depression and am told my anxiety is part of that.

I've see therapists on and off over the last few years.

Hersheys · 24-08-2013 7:44pm

I don't have depression. Depression is a symptom of my BPD. For the time being I have that symptom under control but I'm aware I may need meds again in the future. For the time being I'm okay off them.

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 7:59pm

Glad to hear you're doing alright there Hersheys

I often wonder do I have anything else other than clinical depression.

Hersheys · 24-08-2013 8:23pm

Have you ever had a referral to a pyschiatrist? Or are you controleld by your GP?

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 8:26pm

Hersheys wrote: »

Have you ever had a referral to a pyschiatrist? Or are you controleld by your GP?

Yeah have been under a psychiatrist's care for a few years now.

Hersheys · 24-08-2013 8:32pm

When I can afford it I am going to see a psych privately. I was not happy with the guy I saw in the mater place.

delthedriver · 24-08-2013 9:55pm

Hersheys wrote: »

When I can afford it I am going to see a psych privately. I was not happy with the guy I saw in the mater place.

What was wrong with the guy you saw?

Hersheys · 24-08-2013 10:27pm

He didn't listen. He spoke in a very condescending tone and when I told him I was actively suicidal (I had a plan, everything was in place, I was just waiting for the right time to execute it) he told me to ring the samaratins. When I told him that I'd taken an overdose (intentionally) with a feed of drink he told me that it was nothing to be concerned about. He completely disregarded some of my symptoms. He also said that there was no way that I could be suffering from clinical depression (I never said I was!!) because I made it through college, and nobody who is clinically depressed ever amounts to anything in their lives. He gave me a diagnosis of BPD (grand, the symptoms fit) but never explained what it was, prescribed me meds and sent me on my merry way.

The only good thing to come out of my appointments with him was the referral for psychotherapy.

cloud493 · 24-08-2013 10:49pm

Pieta house never called me back, and I called them and they said they were backed up. My clothes are sticking to me cos of the cuts and the blood. I have a college interview on Wednesday and I know know know im gonna **** it up god.

Hugo Stiglitz · 24-08-2013 10:50pm

Best of luck with it Cloud

Gremlinertia · 25-08-2013 5:53pm

Cloud, i hope things work out for you. Hospital for emergency psych maybe.

Hectic weekend here, physically in bits, wasn't exactly healthy going into it.. Hope to get a decent sleep tomorrow after tonight's shift.

eh i dunno · 25-08-2013 8:09pm

Anyone use the Bateson Clinic for anxiety??

NegativeCreep · 25-08-2013 11:12pm

Anyone ever had a breakdown? Feel like I could be on the verge right now. Can't stop shaking, feel the urge to scream, not able to listen to anyone, muscle spasms, mind racing and just so many things making me feel like I'm going insane.

delthedriver · 25-08-2013 11:28pm

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Anyone ever had a breakdown? Feel like I could be on the verge right now. Can't stop shaking, feel the urge to scream, not able to listen to anyone, muscle spasms, mind racing and just so many things making me feel like I'm going insane.

Please contact your GP tomorrow and have a good heart to heart with him.

If you cannot wait until tomorrow, why not contact the local on call doctor service , or present yourself at your nearest hospital ER.

Your mind is overloading and you need time and assistance to help you relax.

Please be kind to yourself, try and get some rest.

NegativeCreep · 25-08-2013 11:31pm

Can't rest, have an exam which in fecked for and I won't be able to go into second year if I don't pass it and have other stuff to do. Ill just ride it out till next week.

Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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