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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

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    #362
    Jammy Donut
    Closed Accounts Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Jammy Donut


    Self Employed people HAVE to pay it, Otherwise no Tax Clearance cert......


    Bastards. :(


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    #363
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Your a tax evader and your on here preaching for others to pay their household charge here. You haven't a leg to stand on.

    If you say so. I'm happy that my argument is valid.


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    #364
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    They also mandated lowering social welfare, public sector wages and pensions. If they were in here they would have already tackled those.
    They are in here.


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    #365
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Jammy Donut wrote: »
    Self Employed people HAVE to pay it, Otherwise no Tax Clearance cert......
    Is that the case? - I thought it wasn't.


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    #366
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    If you say so. I'm happy that my argument is valid.

    Do you or do you not owe money to a local authority in another country? Your fines and penalties must be added up.


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    #367
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Jammy Donut wrote: »
    Self Employed people HAVE to pay it, Otherwise no Tax Clearance cert......


    Bastards. :(

    Rubbish. Has a failure to pay motor tax or TV licence ever popped up as an issue with your tax clearance cert? It's got nothing to do with your tax clearance cert.


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    #368
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Do you or do you not owe money to a local authority in another country? Your fines and penalties must be added up.

    I don't owe anything. I paid my rates.


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    #369
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    dvpower wrote: »
    They are in here.

    I know but they have given the government leeway in how it reduces its deficit. They still have commitments to meet on reducing our expenditure which as of now we have not met. I for one hope they stay here until the job of public sector reform is completed as we are not cabable of achieving it ourselves. Too many vested interests.


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    #370
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    I don't owe anything. I paid my rates.

    And your poll tax?


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    #371
    Bishop_Donal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Bishop_Donal


    Based on where we were three weeks ago, I guess Phil will actually be quite pleased with a 50% compliance rate (and it will now inevitably rise to 60-70% compliance, even before any enforcement commences).

    It's here to stay now for sure.

    For those who advocate the No position, I guess they can now refer to it as the Eur111 household charge, as that liability will sits on their dwelling within 30 minutes. Let the enforcement campaign commence, and everyone who is complying should play their own role in this respect.

    This charge should be increased to 1/8th of 1% of the property value for the 31 March 2013 deadline, and to 1/4 of 1% of property value by 31 March 2014. Relatively small money for each contributor, and will make some impact on our collective deficit.

    For the record, once we are in balance, we should default on the Bank debt.


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    #372
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    alastair wrote: »
    I never declared ignorance of the law in relation to the poll tax - quite the opposite. I was well aware of the law.

    Yes - the poll tax was unfair, unlike this tax.

    Accusing me of hypocrisy doesn't actually make me a hypocrite - it's just more name-calling.

    But you are hypocritical. Its not name calling. I base the hypocritical reference on your postings. You decided the poll tax was unfair, and didnt pay.

    Yet you think its fair to tax somone on the wealth of their negative equity home. As i said, your the most hypocritical poster i seen in my time on boards, by a very long way.

    And you tried to slither out of this now with more rubbish about how you decide the poll tax is unfair so you dont pay, but this tax is fair, and tell us all to pay.


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    #373
    apache6
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭apache6


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    But you are hypocritical. Its not name calling. I base the hypocritical reference on your postings. You decided the poll tax was unfair, and didnt pay.

    Yet you think its fair to tax somone on the wealth of their negative equity home. As i said, your the most hypocritical poster i seen in my time on boards, by a very long way.

    And you tried to slither out of this now with more rubbish about how you decide the poll tax is unfair so you dont pay, but this tax is fair, and tell us all to pay.

    robbie, don't waste your time mate, some people are just a waste of time.
    Lackeys !


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    #374
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    alastair wrote: »
    I don't owe anything. I paid my rates.

    Yea, of course you did. Except unfair ones.


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    #375
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    But you are hypocritical. Its not name calling. I base the hypocritical reference on your postings. You decided the poll tax was unfair, and didnt pay.

    That's right. Where does the hypocrisy arise?


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    #376
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Before his guaranteed pension I presume?

    If we vote properly next time we may not need worry about that happening.


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    #377
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Your a tax evader and your on here preaching for others to pay their household charge here. You haven't a leg to stand on.
    robbie7730 wrote: »
    But you are hypocritical. Its not name calling. I base the hypocritical reference on your postings. You decided the poll tax was unfair, and didnt pay.

    Yet you think its fair to tax somone on the wealth of their negative equity home. As i said, your the most hypocritical poster i seen in my time on boards, by a very long way.

    And you tried to slither out of this now with more rubbish about how you decide the poll tax is unfair so you dont pay, but this tax is fair, and tell us all to pay.



    *opens new beer/gets popcorn*


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    #378
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    alastair wrote: »
    That's right. Where does the hypocrisy arise?

    In every post you have written.


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    #379
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Ghandee wrote: »
    *opens new beer/gets popcorn*

    Well at least i wont expect a spell check as a way to point out my inferiority this time:D


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    #380
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    squod wrote: »
    If we vote properly next time we may not need worry about that happening.
    Its only 'proper' when you win? I think you may need to return to the practice of 'vote early, vote often'.


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    #381
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    dvpower wrote: »
    Its only 'proper' when you win? I think you may need to return to the practice of 'vote early, vote often'.

    .....and for you it's proper when everyone loses but FF/FGs mates!


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    #382
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Ghandee wrote: »
    *opens new beer/gets popcorn*

    *Turns up AC/DC even louder* I guess.

    I'm glad I'm not your neighbour.

    Some of us have kids that get up at 7am, so I'm off to bed.


    In summary a resounding victory for every right-thinking Irish man.

    Goodnight.


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    #383
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    squod wrote: »
    .....and for you it's proper when everyone loses but FF/FGs mates!
    I let the electorate decide, and then respect their decision. You?


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    #384
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    black francis wrote: »
    *Turns up AC/DC even louder* I guess.

    I'm glad I'm not your neighbour.

    Some of us have kids that get up at 7am, so I'm off to bed.


    In summary a resounding victory for every right-thinking Irish man.

    Goodnight.

    Goodnite francis


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    #385
    Bishop_Donal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Bishop_Donal


    squod wrote: »
    .....and for you it's proper when everyone loses but FF/FGs mates!

    It can be hard to adjust to democracy and the law of the land, but hang in there.


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    #386
    apache6
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭apache6


    democracy - the grand illusion.


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    #387
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Bishop_Donal wrote: »
    It can be hard to adjust to democracy and the law of the land.

    So alastair was saying.


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    #388
    xflyer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭xflyer


    Ha, ha, blackfrancis, dvpower. I'm reminded of the bunker in Berlin, 1945. Right up to the end, with the Russians hammering on the door the illusion continues, right up to the end.

    Well we Russians have spoken.


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    #389
    apache6
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭apache6


    xflyer wrote: »
    Ha, ha, blackfrancis, dvpower. I'm reminded of the bunker in Berlin, 1945. Right up to the end, with the Russians hammering on the door the illusion continues, right up to the end.

    Well we Russians have spoken.

    They would love Argentina, very similar to old ireland. Corrupt and incompetent.


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    #390
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Bishop_Donal wrote: »
    It can be hard to adjust to democracy and the law of the land, but hang in there.

    So you accept the majority of the population do not want to pay a household charge and their views should be enforced?


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    #391
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    So alastair was saying.

    Quite - for some anyway, who live in a fantasy where the government is 'undemocratic' because they don't want to stump up €100.


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