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Israel bombs 160 sites in Gaza overnight. Mod Warnings in First Post.

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    #272
    QuantumP
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭QuantumP


    How much does Israel care what the world thinks about their war crimes?

    They just slaughtered 4 children (aged 10-11) who were playing on a beach in front of 10's of international journalists. They knew they were killing children and didn't care who saw.

    Eye Witness Account:
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/witness-gaza-shelling-first-hand-account?CMP=twt_gu

    "Gunner appears to have adjusted to hit survivors"

    Pics (with discretion etc.):
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRUOwCcAAtcxf.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRUN1CAAAf_gx.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRTyzCEAAr1Zz.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRUEICEAAGw8M.jpg:large

    The IDFs actions continue to leave me speechless.


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    #273
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


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    #274
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    So the Israeli murder machine trundles on killing all in it's wake.
    How cowardly a country is the U.S. who back these murderers and allow it continue unabated?


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    #275
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    tayto lover wrote: »
    So the Israeli murder machine trundles on killing all in it's wake.
    How cowardly a country is the U.S. who back these murderers and allow it continue unabated?
    Because it is anti semitic to criticise them of anything. I see rhianna tweeted free palestine the other day but took it down straight away. She values her career it would seem!


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    #276
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    old_aussie wrote: »
    The muslim terrorists know how to make the truce, the just don't know how to keep the truce.


    A fragile truce between Israel and Hamas to end an eight-day conflict is in danger of blowing up as the Palestinian group’s military wing, along with other Gaza militias, reopened fire on targets in Israel, and Israel has fired a warning shot into an open area in Gaza, signalling it is prepared to resume the war.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/renewed-rocket-fire-threatens-to-sink-israel-hamas-truce/article19609240/?cmpid=rss1

    Warning shots?

    I guess the 4 kids killed on an almost deserted beach by Israeli artillary were a grave danger to the state of Israel.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/witness-gaza-shelling-first-hand-account
    Only afterwards do we discover there are four others who are dead, all children, lying on the wall. I am shown a picture of one of the dead boys, his skin scorched and bruised. Their names are released later: Ahed Bakr, aged 10; Zakaria, 10; and two other boys from the Bakr family, both named Mohammad, aged 11 and nine.


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    #277
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    old_aussie wrote: »
    The muslim terrorists know how to make the truce, the just don't know how to keep the truce.


    A fragile truce between Israel and Hamas to end an eight-day conflict is in danger of blowing up as the Palestinian group’s military wing, along with other Gaza militias, reopened fire on targets in Israel, and Israel has fired a warning shot into an open area in Gaza, signalling it is prepared to resume the war.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/renewed-rocket-fire-threatens-to-sink-israel-hamas-truce/article19609240/?cmpid=rss1

    Only one set of terrorists winning this i.e. the Israeli murder machine.


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    #278
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    tayto lover wrote: »
    So the Israeli murder machine trundles on killing all in it's wake.
    How cowardly a country is the U.S. who back these murderers and allow it continue unabated?
    War is good for business and there has to be a war somewhere especially since things never kicked off in Ukraine much to the disappointment of the USA.
    Israel is the only country in the world with an operational anti-ballistic missile defense system on the national level – the Arrow system, jointly funded and produced by Israel and the United States. The Iron Dome system against short-range rockets is operational and proved to be successful. David's Sling, an anti-missile system designed to counter medium range rockets is under development. Israel has also worked with the US on development of a tactical high energy laser system against medium range rockets (called Nautilus or THEL).


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    #279
    seanaway
    Registered Users Posts: 646 ✭✭✭seanaway


    Anyone here commented on Hamas' refusal to have a ceasefire?


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    #280
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    QuantumP wrote: »
    How much does Israel care what the world thinks about their war crimes?

    They just slaughtered 4 children (aged 10-11) who were playing on a beach in front of 10's of international journalists. They knew they were killing children and didn't care who saw.

    Eye Witness Account:
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/witness-gaza-shelling-first-hand-account?CMP=twt_gu

    "Gunner appears to have adjusted to hit survivors"

    Pics (with discretion etc.):
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRUOwCcAAtcxf.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRUN1CAAAf_gx.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRTyzCEAAr1Zz.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsrRUEICEAAGw8M.jpg:large

    The IDFs actions continue to leave me speechless.

    Errah be quiet. It was a rocket site and Hamas put the kids on top of it to embarrass the Israelis. Or something.


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    #281
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The Jews had the sympathy of the World after the Holocaust and now they commit similar atrocities to the Palestinians.
    How a people who suffered so much could inflict similar pain on another people baffles me.


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    #282
    Conas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Conas


    tayto lover wrote: »
    The Jews had the sympathy of the World after the Holocaust and now they commit similar atrocities to the Palestinians.
    How a people who suffered so much could inflict similar pain on another people baffles me.

    The over 7 million Ukrainians that were starved to death, because of the actions of Jews like Lazar Kaganovich never got any sympathy though did they?


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    #283
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    That's not terrorism, that's deterrent. Same reason why Georgia is unlikely to make another grab at South Ossetia against Russia any time soon: the larger military force can and will bring its disproportionate weight to bear and spank them, just like they did last time.
    Deterrent? I'm sorry but don't get to set moral equivalence between a burglar alarm and butchering defenseless people for a crime they haven't committed. The idea alone is vulgar.

    Let's take an example. Do you think that the 10 year old who has had his entire family murdered this week will be "deterred" from resisting the Israeli brutal occupation and siege of his homeland?

    Has the abject failure of the American "war on terror" not taught anyone anything? Insurgent math and American misadventures has turned a rabble swinging on monkey bars in the desert into a cohesive army capable of holding cities and declaring their caliphate.
    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Looking through the various proposed legal definitions of terrorism over on Wiki, one of the noticeable exceptions is that of a State's legitimate armed forces, as their conduct is already governed under the Laws of War. Most of the definitions of terrorism require extra-jurisdictional acts by non-state bodies.
    Pedantry.

    Terrorism is terrorism whether they are sniping children with their IDF rifle and a star of david insignia on their arms or they are a bunch of Jews dressed up as arabs and blowing up hotels to kill civilians.


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    #284
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    seanaway wrote: »
    Anyone here commented on Hamas' refusal to have a ceasefire?
    No ceasfire without an easing of the blockade is their current position. Seem reasonable, or...´?


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    #285
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Check out occupation101 on youtube. Won best documentary at both cannes and sundance. What struck me most (approx 26 mins in) was'We used to babysit each others kids, my grandmother told me' I hope someday, they will again. Would post the link/video directly, but I cannot. Its at (http) ://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9CIGeePXU&sns=fb
    Here you go.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twvXHUNrXY


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    #286
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Disgraceful

    Isn't it about time Israel was reined in and punished for these indiscriminate murders of kids.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/world/middleeast/gaza-strip-beach-explosion-kills-children.html?_r=1&referrer=
    A running count kept by United Nations officials shows that of the more than 200 Palestinians who have been killed so far, about 75 percent have been civilians, including more than three dozen children. One Israeli has been killed.


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    #287
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    seanaway wrote: »
    Anyone here commented on Hamas' refusal to have a ceasefire?

    Well, seeing as the first time they heard of a ceasefire was via the media, the whole thing seems to have been set up to fail or that the Egyptians and Tony Blair (who was apparently involved) are incompetent.

    I would normally go for incompetence, but if the involvement of blood thirsty war criminal Blair turns out to be true, then it leads me to believe it was very possibly on purpose.

    Now normally when negotiating a ceasefire both sides are consulted, and that didn't happen in this case. Personally, I think Hamas should have accepted it, but fact that no one talked to them about, meant that it was always going to fail, and quite frankly the whole thing stinks a great deal, seeing as the mediators have a deep hatred for Hamas.


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    #288
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Shameful. This is genocide. For shame Israel. For shame America. How can anyone justify this? Targeting children? What kind of monster have you become when this is acceptable?


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    #289
    Meglamonia
    Registered Users Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Meglamonia


    If it wasn't for the iron dome Israel would have a lot more casualties Hamas are as big animals as them they don't care either.


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    #290
    BuilderPlumber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Shameful. This is genocide. For shame Israel. For shame America. How can anyone justify this? Targeting children? What kind of monster have you become when this is acceptable?

    Netanyahu and his predecessor Olmert are both war criminals and very similar to Slobodan Milosevic. All 3 of the world's worst neo-Nazis and all 3 very corrupt and self serving. But only one gets to be tried for war crimes because he is against the West.

    Israel has committed atrocious war crimes and because of their Western protectorate status can get away with anything. They are about the only state in the world that would get away with it.

    Now I know the Palestinian political and military representatives are no better but one is a kneejerk reaction to the other. Israel allowed Islamic Jihad (aka al Qaeda), Warriors of God and [the more hardline faction of] Hamas thugs to thrive in Palestine and who gets killed? Innocent people. Since Israel and Palestine are officially the one country, this is ethnic cleansing akin to Milosevic. The West are afraid of Israel too as are the Russians. One country in the world that would not hesitate to use nukes if necessary = Israel. The biggest threat nukewise in the Middle East is Israel, not some pipedream that Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia have going. Their nuclear plans are in infancy and even if they had them, they would never use them: they'd be a deterrent. But Israel would use them if necessary, if they had a major fallout with the West or Russia.


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    #291
    Meglamonia
    Registered Users Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Meglamonia


    BuilderPlumber wrote: »
    Netanyahu and his predecessor Olmert are both war criminals and very similar to Slobodan Milosevic. All 3 of the world's worst neo-Nazis and all 3 very corrupt and self serving. But only one gets to be tried for war crimes because he is against the West.

    Israel has committed atrocious war crimes and because of their Western protectorate status can get away with anything. They are about the only state in the world that would get away with it.

    Now I know the Palestinian political and military representatives are no better but one is a kneejerk reaction to the other. Israel allowed Islamic Jihad (aka al Qaeda), Warriors of God and [the more hardline faction of] Hamas thugs to thrive in Palestine and who gets killed? Innocent people. Since Israel and Palestine are officially the one country, this is ethnic cleansing akin to Milosevic. The West are afraid of Israel too as are the Russians. One country in the world that would not hesitate to use nukes if necessary = Israel. The biggest threat nukewise in the Middle East is Israel, not some pipedream that Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia have going. Their nuclear plans are in infancy and even if they had them, they would never use them: they'd be a deterrent. But Israel would use them if necessary, if they had a major fallout with the West or Russia.

    Israel would not nuke anyone cause they themselves would be wiped out not soon after.


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    #292
    BuilderPlumber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Meglamonia wrote: »
    If it wasn't for the iron dome Israel would have a lot more casualties Hamas are as big animals as them they don't care either.

    Neither side here are good. Israel's hardliners feed off each other and it also allows the hardliners in Hamas to suffocate the moderates in Hamas. It also allowed Islamic Jihad (al Qaeda) to thrive and cement their aim to overtake Hamas. Islamic Jihad (al Qaeda in Palestine) is the worst Palestinian entity out there and Netanyahu is the worst Israeli PM to have.


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    #293
    Meglamonia
    Registered Users Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Meglamonia


    Anyone follow the IDF twitter?Its ridiculous.


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    #294
    Conas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Conas


    Meglamonia wrote: »
    Anyone follow the IDF twitter?Its ridiculous.

    The Israeli's are masters of propaganda.


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    #295
    old_aussie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    FTA69 wrote: »
    This is such nonsense. The Palestinians are desperate for a state of their own and to reach some sort of compromise; .

    Is palestine not their state/country?

    Or

    Do they want some other place.


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    #296
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371556/israel-must-kill-all-palestinian-mothers/

    What a very lovely thing to be saying.


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    #297
    old_aussie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Meglamonia wrote: »
    Anyone follow the IDF twitter?Its ridiculous.

    Yeah, it's just as rediculous as terrorists posting on twitter.


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    #298
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,314 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Just reading the news reports of the 4 boys kille.



    French video clip of the 3 boys running up the beach to escape after the 1st strike, then hearing another bang and seeing their bodies getting carried away and blurred out to protect us from their injuries. Sometimes this world saddens me so much.

    How can we let such evil go unchallenged? Shame on Israel and Obama for standing by and letting this carnage continue.


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    #299
    old_aussie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Shameful. This is genocide. For shame Israel. For shame America. How can anyone justify this? Targeting children? What kind of monster have you become when this is acceptable?

    They are not targeting children, israel notified them to clear the area.

    hamas tell them to stay, so hamas can hide behind them.


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    #300
    Scofflaw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Conas wrote: »
    The over 7 million Ukrainians that were starved to death, because of the actions of Jews like Lazar Kaganovich never got any sympathy though did they?

    Conas, your posts have begin to fall into a pretty standard anti-Semitic pattern, and this one looks like the cherry on top. Don't post further, thanks.

    iMrApex, your posts increasingly look like a combination of stonewalling and soapboxing. Nor do you get to dictate the nature of reality, or claim that it is, and implicitly should be, dictated by force.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


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    #301
    Conas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Conas


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    Conas, your posts have begin to fall into a pretty standard anti-Semitic pattern, and this one looks like the cherry on top. Don't post further, thanks.

    iMrApex, your posts increasingly look like a combination of stonewalling and soapboxing. Nor do you get to dictate the nature of reality, or claim that it is, and implicitly should be, dictated by force.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw

    How? Lazar Kaganovich was a Jew that was found guilty a few years ago, of the Holodomor genocide in Ukraine during the 1930s. All documented, and are all proven facts.

    MOD: Banned 2-weeks. See details below.


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