M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

wreckless · 13-07-2013 3:45pm

be da hokey, some piece of road alright

, thanks for the link.

going to be some serious disruptions at certain times around jack whites, lil doyles and the beehive, but sure wont it all be worth it.

spacetweek · 15-07-2013 1:30pm

lottpaul wrote: »

http://www.wicklow.ie/apps/wicklowbeta/RoadsTransInfrast/N11%20Rathnew-Arklow.pdf

courtesy of nordydan in post #614

Mod, any chance of renaming the thread to draw attention to post 614? Could be useful.

claytonie · 17-07-2013 9:36am

Quick update (Sorry still haven't had a chance to take some pics)

Most of the work to date has been the clearing of vegetation, with the effort being focused on the section between Arklow Bypass and Barndarrig. This morning they are in the process of shredding (or whatever you call it) the vegetation that has been removed. Machinery that I have counted in operation includes:

6xExcavators
3x Moxy Trucks
1x Tractor
1xBulldozer
1x Shredder/Crusher (Not sure what its proper name is)

They seem to have completed putting up all the required Red/White safety boundaries as well as creating Work entrances at a good few of marked positions. Drainage channels have also been dug and and areas around the river at Scratenagh bridge have also been cleared.

I have zero construction knowledge so apologise in advance for any of the wrong terminology

slickmcvic · 17-07-2013 2:38pm

claytonie wrote: »

Quick update (Sorry still haven't had a chance to take some pics)

Most of the work to date has been the clearing of vegetation, with the effort being focused on the section between Arklow Bypass and Barndarrig. This morning they are in the process of shredding (or whatever you call it) the vegetation that has been removed. Machinery that I have counted in operation includes:

6xExcavators
3x Moxy Trucks
1x Tractor
1xBulldozer
1x Shredder/Crusher (Not sure what its proper name is)

They seem to have completed putting up all the required Red/White safety boundaries as well as creating Work entrances at a good few of marked positions. Drainage channels have also been dug and and areas around the river at Scratenagh bridge have also been cleared.

I have zero construction knowledge so apologise in advance for any of the wrong terminology

took a look around the site at the weekend and got pics of the plant and work in progress.....

Quickelles · 17-07-2013 4:50pm

I don't wish to be negative...but those pics are not appearing on my screen

antoobrien · 17-07-2013 4:53pm

Quickelles wrote: »

I don't wish to be negative...but those pics are not appearing on my screen

Lovely pics of excavators. Check your proxy settings, the host site (postimg.org) might be blocked.

slickmcvic · 17-07-2013 6:21pm

antoobrien wrote: »

Lovely pics of excavators. Check your proxy settings, the host site (postimg.org) might be blocked.

It's funny,they appear on my laptop in the post but I have to click on a square when using my iPhone,

A40D · 17-07-2013 8:47pm

Thanks for the pics,i had expected to see a bit more plant than that on the job,

claytonie · 17-07-2013 8:51pm

A40D wrote: »

Thanks for the pics,i had expected to see a bit more plant than that on the job,

They haven't started any major earthworks yet and it all just seems like preparations before they get going. One thing I noticed this evening was that a dirt access road is now in place about along the path. There is also now a second "Morbark Wood Hog" on site and they seem to have cleared a good bit of vegetation between Jack Whites and Barndarrig.

Quickelles · 17-07-2013 9:37pm

slickmcvic wrote: »

It's funny,they appear on my laptop in the post but I have to click on a square when using my iPhone,

The wheat crop looks magnificent - and it's certainly moving faster than the machines! :rolleyes:

Geogregor · 05-08-2013 11:01pm

Any movement on site? It's been a while since since the last post in this thread.

L1011 · 05-08-2013 11:42pm

Was the CIF summer holidays for the last two weeks, there hasn't been much movement on this or Newlands due to that. Should be back tomorrow.

jd · 05-08-2013 11:45pm

Trip from Wexford today

JupiterKid · 06-08-2013 4:24pm

It doesn't look like much is happening from those photos. Get a move on!!:D:pac:

ITDept · 07-08-2013 12:41pm

I think they said it would take about 20 months to complete, although I may be wrong. There's a fair amount of work going on and I'm sure if weather continues to be favourable they'll finish a bit early, but I wouldn't be expecting massive changes every few days.

serfboard · 07-08-2013 2:12pm

ITDept wrote: »

I'm sure if weather continues to be favourable they'll finish a bit early

Are you referring to the scheme in general? Because as other schemes have shown, the one thing they won't do is finish early. Why? Because there are no early-finish bonuses and they have no other work on!

ITDept · 07-08-2013 4:02pm

serfboard wrote: »

Are you referring to the scheme in general? Because as other schemes have shown, the one thing they won't do is finish early. Why? Because there are no early-finish bonuses and they have no other work on!

Actually that's not true. There have been a number of road projects scheduled to run for 2 or 3 months longer than they actually did. For example, the Gorey bypass, the M7 resurfacing / improvements near Naas, and the Fermoy bypass all came in slightly ahead as far as I know.

I don't know how the contracts work but my guess would be that they'd get a fixed fee for completing the project. If they can get it done a bit quicker then they don't have to pay out wages etc. for the bit they've shaved off. Only a guess though.

L1011 · 07-08-2013 4:13pm

All of those projects were during the era of early completion bonuses.

Chris_5339762 · 07-08-2013 7:33pm

The quickest was Kilworth and the Mitchelstown Bypass on the M8. 14 months or something ridiculously quick like that. Its holding up well too, much less subsidence and dipping than any of the other schemes.

tonc76 · 08-08-2013 1:36pm

Regardless of whether there is a finish-early bonus or not it will still be in BAM's interest to finish as soon as they can.

serfboard · 09-08-2013 12:39pm

tonc76 wrote: »

Regardless of whether there is a finish-early bonus or not it will still be in BAM's interest to finish as soon as they can.

Why?

tonc76 · 09-08-2013 12:59pm

serfboard wrote: »

Why?

Less cost i.e wages, fuel, maintenance etc.

L1011 · 09-08-2013 1:09pm

tonc76 wrote: »

Less cost i.e wages, fuel, maintenance etc.

Wages and fuel are related to the amount of work done. Not time

fred funk }{ · 09-08-2013 2:00pm

MYOB wrote: »

Wages and fuel are related to the amount of work done. Not time

If it over runs by six months, that's an extra six months wages to be paid. It's in their interest to finish early.

L1011 · 09-08-2013 3:24pm

fred funk }{ wrote: »

If it over runs by six months, that's an extra six months wages to be paid. It's in their interest to finish early.

If completing early requires more staff, it absolutely isn't.

Penalties or bonuses are the only things that will motivate the required increase in staff and equipment.

dmeehan · 09-08-2013 5:09pm

isnt it a bit premature to be talking about this scheme finishing early?

Carawaystick · 10-08-2013 11:32am

Isn't someone going to be paid for this when its completed, as its a ppp project? So it's in their interest to get it finished ahead of schedule to get the ppp income

serfboard · 12-08-2013 1:13pm

Carawaystick wrote: »

Isn't someone going to be paid for this when its completed, as its a ppp project? So it's in their interest to get it finished ahead of schedule to get the ppp income

You're right of course, so there's the motivation.

claytonie · 05-09-2013 12:26pm

Hi all for those looking for progress made to date I have put up a video taken from Jack Whites to the Wicklow Town Dual Carriageway Northbound. I sped it up to 2x the speed so as not to bore but the full 7mins is also up on Youtube if you want to watch it in realtime.

As you can see they its mostly preparatory works that have been done so far but this week the pace seems to be picking up seeing the guys at work already at 7am in the morning. If the videos are of interest to anyone let me know and I will try make a habit of doing one North and South every couple of Weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPtxfTZvXYw

iwo · 05-09-2013 12:53pm

claytonie wrote: »

Hi all for those looking for progress made to date I have put up a video taken from Jack Whites to the Wicklow Town Dual Carriageway Northbound. I sped it up to 2x the speed so as not to bore but the full 7mins is also up on Youtube if you want to watch it in realtime.

As you can see they its mostly preparatory works that have been done so far but this week the pace seems to be picking up seeing the guys at work already at 7am in the morning. If the videos are of interest to anyone let me know and I will try make a habit of doing one North and South every couple of Weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPtxfTZvXYw

Would be nice to have it...although I am sick of watching this road after 7 years of driving between bray and gorey

M11 - Arklow to Rathnew

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