Cross on Carauntoohill had been cut down

FrStone · 22-11-2014 3:43pm #1

I'm after hearing from climbers that the cross has been cut down. This is blatant vandalism, some one actually had to bring the correct equipment up to do this.

MonkeyTennis · 22-11-2014 3:45pm

Its a miracle

Allyall · 22-11-2014 3:48pm

FrStone wrote: »

I'm after hearing from climbers that the cross has been cut down. This is blatant vandalism, some one actually had to bring the correct equipment up to do this.

http://www.thejournal.ie/cross-carrauntoohil-cut-down-1794036-Nov2014/

Satriale · 22-11-2014 3:49pm

It was vandalism to stick it in the top of the mountain in the first place.

beveragelady · 22-11-2014 3:49pm

First of all, may I state clearly that it wasn't me.
Secondly, I'm delighted to hear that the cross on Carrauntoohil is gone. It has always annoyed me to find a religious symbol at the top of various mountains, as if they have been claimed in the name of some god or other.

Graces7 · 22-11-2014 3:52pm

beveragelady wrote: »

First of all, may I state clearly that it wasn't me.
Secondly, I'm delighted to hear that the cross on Carrauntoohil is gone. It has always annoyed me to find a religious symbol at the top of various mountains, as if they have been claimed in the name of some god or other.

Then you are intolerant. Period. Discriminatory too

Hoping it is replaced and soon.. that sign is of hope and beauty which we need so much

suicide_circus · 22-11-2014 3:53pm

beveragelady wrote: »

First of all, may I state clearly that it wasn't me.
Secondly, I'm delighted to hear that the cross on Carrauntoohil is gone. It has always annoyed me to find a religious symbol at the top of various mountains, as if they have been claimed in the name of some god or other.

i wonder when our post catholic hangover will dissipate

Satriale · 22-11-2014 3:54pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Then you are intolerant. Period. Discriminatory too

Hoping it is replaced and soon.. that sign is of hope and beauty which we need so much

They had better apply for planning permission this time. Rules are rules.

afatbollix · 22-11-2014 3:55pm

How the feck does a execution device give hope and beauty?

The Backwards Man · 22-11-2014 3:55pm

If there's one thing pisses me off more than any other it's people climbing mountains without a damn good reason. And 'because it's there' is not a good reason.

Allyall · 22-11-2014 3:55pm

beveragelady wrote: »

First of all, may I state clearly that it wasn't me.
Secondly, I'm delighted to hear that the cross on Carrauntoohil is gone. It has always annoyed me to find a religious symbol at the top of various mountains, as if they have been claimed in the name of some god or other.

Regardless, If they wanted it down, they could have started a petition.
At the time it was erected, Ireland was a very Catholic Country, as time went on, it stood as reminder of our past.
Are they going to go and cut down all the crosses in Glendalough because they don't agree with them?

I couldn't care either way if the cross was there or not, but there are better ways to go about it.

beveragelady · 22-11-2014 3:56pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Then you are intolerant. Period. Discriminatory too

Hoping it is replaced and soon.. that sign is of hope and beauty which we need so much

Against whom am I discriminating? People who don't want to climb a mountain unless there is a representation of an instrument of torture awaiting them at the summit?

You're right though, I find it difficult to tolerate eyesores.

Mint Sauce · 22-11-2014 3:56pm

FrStone wrote: »

I'm after hearing from climbers that the cross has been cut down. This is blatant vandalism, some one actually had to bring the correct equipment up to do this.

+100

And I am not even particularly religious.

bren2002 · 22-11-2014 3:58pm

I agree there's no place for religious iconography on top of this mountain.

fits · 22-11-2014 3:59pm

Goodness. I am speechless that is all.

MonkeyTennis · 22-11-2014 4:00pm

Perhaps you have as much right to take a cross down from a mountain as you have of putting one up there.

jank · 22-11-2014 4:00pm

beveragelady wrote: »

Against whom am I discriminating? People who don't want to climb a mountain unless there is a representation of an instrument of torture awaiting them at the summit?

You're right though, I find it difficult to tolerate eyesores.

Not all people are you... so ya, you are intollerant.

chrysagon · 22-11-2014 4:01pm

im surprised Lidl OR Aldi have not opened a unit up there!

beveragelady · 22-11-2014 4:02pm

jank wrote: »

Not all people are you... so ya, you are intollerant.

I'm not intollerant, I'm intolerant.
I'm intolerant of eyesores and stupidity and bigotry and laziness and lots of other things, but I'm not intolerant of people.

Satriale · 22-11-2014 4:07pm

chrysagon wrote: »

im surprised Lidl OR Aldi have not opened a unit up there!

If they move fast i hear there's a need for a Weekly Special welder.

Squeedily Spooch · 22-11-2014 4:07pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Then you are intolerant. Period. Discriminatory too

Hoping it is replaced and soon.. that sign is of hope and beauty which we need so much

The mountain itself is a sign of beauty, sticking a bronze age method of slowly killing people up there doesn't make it any more beautiful.

Molester Stallone II · 22-11-2014 4:07pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Then you are intolerant. Period. Discriminatory too

Hoping it is replaced and soon.. that sign is of hope and beauty which we need so much

Nothing beautiful about that cross at all.
It should be unlawful to erect any such eyesore upon one of our true national wonders

suicide_circus · 22-11-2014 4:08pm

Lads we better bulldoze Christchurch and St Patricks cathedral, religious iconography have no place on public roads. Better start melting down all the bronze statues in towns and cities around thr country, they dont represent my beliefs or culture and therefore offend me.

Molester Stallone II · 22-11-2014 4:09pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Lads we better bulldoze Christchurch and St Patricks cathedral, religious iconography have no place on public roads. Better start melting down all the bronze statues in towns and cities around thr country, they dont represent my beliefs or culture and therefore offend me.

I'll give ya a hand!

DeadHand · 22-11-2014 4:10pm

beveragelady wrote: »

but I'm not intolerant of people.

Not even vandals, apparently.

And, yes, if you gloat at the removal of a religious monument because you do not agree with that religion then you are a bigot.

This cultural/religious destruction is the kind of thing ISIS and the Taliban engage in.

CrazyRabbit · 22-11-2014 4:10pm

Put it back up. Along with a statue of Buddha, Zeus, Mohammed and the flying spaghetti monster etc.

chrysagon · 22-11-2014 4:13pm

id like a monument dedicated to that purple bast*rd Barney!!!

gctest50 · 22-11-2014 4:13pm

bit cold for FEMEN to be topless up there with a consaw ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO2Ae3Nw-Kg

go chainsaw woman

hmmm · 22-11-2014 4:14pm

I've climbed Carrauntoohill a few times and I've always hated seeing it there, but this sort of vandalism is inexcusable. If any new Christian (or other religious) symbols appeared this morning on top of a mountain I'd happily cut them down myself, but when something has been up there long enough it becomes part of what the mountain is, and part of our heritage.

jank · 22-11-2014 4:14pm

beveragelady wrote: »

I'm not intollerant, I'm intolerant.
I'm intolerant of eyesores and stupidity and bigotry and laziness and lots of other things, but I'm not intolerant of people.

Oh added to being 'intolerant' you are also a spelling Nazi.
Well done, try harder next time.

RED L4 0TH · 22-11-2014 4:15pm

beveragelady wrote: »

First of all, may I state clearly that it wasn't me.
Secondly, I'm delighted to hear that the cross on Carrauntoohil is gone. It has always annoyed me to find a religious symbol at the top of various mountains, as if they have been claimed in the name of some god or other.

So we'll see you on top of Croagh Patick with a wrecking ball fairly soon then.......

Cross on Carauntoohill had been cut down

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