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Protestors disrupting World War 1 commemoration at Glasnevin

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    #272
    tomwaterford
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    budsalt wrote: »
    During the battle of the Somme the 16th Irish Division suffered losses of 224 officers and 4,090 men; despite these very heavy losses the division gained a reputation as first-class shock troops.

    I think men like these deserve a minuet's silence and a little respect.

    I agree....they deserve there respect

    there is no defending some of what went on today (booing a mins silence FFS)

    but it deos stick in the troats of many the way the state can find time and money to commerate british soldiers (though many that returned went on to serve with the ira-so they cannot all be condemned...anyone that glorifies it should be condemned though)
    and the state cannot find the money to refurbish/upkeep old ira monuments around the country...but will glady seek out to disrupt/antagonise those that fundraise for upkeep and repair of those monuments


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    #273
    budsalt
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭budsalt


    wicklowstevo wrote: »
    its no longer amazing how some misguided people can defend the indefensible ........

    Not sure who you are referring to, could you be a little more precise please?


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    #274
    wicklowstevo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    budsalt wrote: »
    Not sure who you are referring to, could you be a little more precise please?


    people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
    deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

    clear enough for ya is it ?


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    #275
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Royals would probably turn up at it, if it meant their 'privilege subvention' was continued.

    They wouldn't need to, Lizzie would already be there on the stamp!














    (I'll get me coat)


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    #276
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    wicklowstevo wrote: »
    people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
    deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

    clear enough for ya is it ?


    hmm....while not agreeing with jeering/abusing anyone....you do have a broad definition of irish war dead


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    #277
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    wicklowstevo wrote: »
    people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
    deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

    clear enough for ya is it ?
    Yes, it's clear now. But it was a fair question to ask. Vague posts are pointless.


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    #278
    budsalt
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭budsalt


    wicklowstevo wrote: »
    people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
    deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

    clear enough for ya is it ?

    Yes,that's clear enough thank you, and in fact I support what you say.


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    #279
    wicklowstevo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    hmm....while not agreeing with jeering/abusing anyone....you do have a broad definition of irish war dead

    i guess i may , but then again Irish people have been wars all over the world for all sorts of reasons on all sorts of sides such as both sides of the american civil war Spanish civil war etc


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    #280
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    end of the road wrote: »
    i hardly think the orange order will be let down here again thankfully after what happened last time

    Great dodge and way to show yourself up as a hypocrite!

    Typical narrow-minded armchair Provey


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    #281
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    Sinn Fein would protest the opening of an envelope if they thought it would get them media attention. Bunch of shameless attention whores. The people who voted for them only have themselves to blame. They should have been left in the gutter, where they belong.


    It wasn't Sinn Fein.


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    #282
    MJ23
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    A few greasy stoners with nothing else to do.
    Idiots.


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    #283
    Fratton Fred
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    Nodin wrote: »
    It wasn't Sinn Fein.

    Try caps, you might get heard.


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    #284
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Great dodge and way to show yourself up as a hypocrite!

    Typical narrow-minded armchair Provey

    Yes. Anyone who doesn't want another orange match in Dublin = typical narrow minded armchair provey


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    #285
    Jesus.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    keeponhurling wrote: »
    Yes. Anyone who doesn't want another orange match in Dublin = typical narrow minded armchair provey

    Go back to the initial exchange on the last page instead of jumping in half-cocked and you'll see who actually agrees with the point you've just made.


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    #286
    any1butdublin3
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭any1butdublin3


    I am a republican and I have 4 ancestors who died in the war, they came from a nationalist family and some of the brothers were even in the IRA.
    In modern Ireland all the British Army WW1 celebrations comes hand in hand with being Anglo-Irish, many of the men who died weren't Anglo-Irish or unionist.

    I don't agree with the protestors but republicans have a right to be against it.


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    #287
    Young Blood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭Young Blood


    Can you believe Theresa Valliers was at this? The same woman who earlier this year denied an inquest into the Ballymurphy Massacre. Shocking.


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    #288
    Tony EH
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    Madam wrote: »
    For the life of me I don't understand why we need to commemorate a war that happened 100 years ago...

    Because it was one of two of the most devastating wars to happen on the planet and it affect the lives of millions of people maybe?

    There are less important things that are commemorated.


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    #289
    any1butdublin3
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭any1butdublin3


    P_1 wrote: »
    Irish republicans always seemed to have found grasping the precise definition of the word 'republic' a tricky one to master.

    Lads you don't represent me, you don't represent an awful lot of the people living here, kindly fcuk off.

    but to be fair it was young hoolies like that who were in the IRA in the 20's as well


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    #290
    Strazdas
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    any1butdublin3 wrote: »
    I am a republican and I have 4 ancestors who died in the war, they came from a nationalist family and some of the brothers were even in the IRA.
    In modern Ireland all the British Army WW1 celebrations comes hand in hand with being Anglo-Irish, many of the men who died weren't Anglo-Irish or unionist.

    I don't agree with the protestors but republicans have a right to be against it.

    There's no problem with them being opposed to the WW1 commemoration. If they had staged a silent protest outside Glasnevin today, it would have been absolutely fine, but shouting and heckling during a solemn memorial service was disgraceful.


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    #291
    Happyman42
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    Young Blood wrote: »
    Can you believe Theresa Valliers was at this? The same woman who earlier this year denied an inquest into the Ballymurphy Massacre. Shocking.

    And who tried to stop a republican commemoration of their dead recently too.


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    #292
    any1butdublin3
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭any1butdublin3


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    I tolerated the shinners before today, now I absolutely hate them

    everyone in my family and most in the townland vote for sinn fein and they weren't protesting today, quit with the bigotry


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    #293
    Young Blood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭Young Blood


    Can you believe Theresa Valliers was at this? The same woman who earlier this year denied an inquest into the Ballymurphy Massacre. Shocking.


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    #294
    P_1
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    keeponhurling wrote: »
    That's fine that you are now entirely comfortable with British army actions, both in Ireland and overseas.
    Bloody Sunday, Iraq , Afghanistan etc.
    Good for you.

    However some are still not entirely satisfied with their actions, and indeed many civilians are not around to have a view.

    "No excuse for that attitude now",
    Are you the thought police ?

    One of the most condescending posts I've seen for a while

    What is the point in defining your life based on the squabbles of past generations though?


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    #295
    Luke92
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Luke92


    My uncle is one of these rent a protesters! All the same. Protesting Gaza now. He protests everything! Gaza, water charges, EU/IMF, republican prisoners being strip searched. You name it he protests it. ****ing sickens me! Him and his wife and now they have brainwashed their daughter who is the same. So there's another generation of them coming!

    He shared an article on Facebook and in it a prisoner (POW) likened being strip searched to rape. That just came across as a huge insult to any victim of rape. Total idiots.


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    #296
    any1butdublin3
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭any1butdublin3


    P_1 wrote: »
    What is the point in defining your life based on the squabbles of past generations though?

    The Bloody Sunday generation are still alive and so are the soldiers who did it, providing he's talking about the 1972 bloody sunday


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    #297
    P_1
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    any1butdublin3 wrote: »
    The Bloody Sunday generation are still alive and so are the soldiers who did it, providing he's talking about the 1972 bloody sunday

    Yes but what's the point in bearing such a grudge? We speak the same language, shop in mostly the same shops, support and play mostly the same sports, listen to the same music and mostly follow the same illogical bronze age text that has one or two insignificant differences.

    I'm sorry but I'm not going to hate somebody who happens to live in England because of what happened in Derry years before I was born.


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    #298
    any1butdublin3
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭any1butdublin3


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Is it not a good thing that our British now want to actively commemorate our war dead?

    But just look how the army were treating N.Ireland catholics just a couple of decades ago, many of those catholics had grandfathers, etc who fought in WW1, it is a pity they couldn't show some respect and compassion when marching like thugs around the streets of N.Ireland


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    #299
    any1butdublin3
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭any1butdublin3


    P_1 wrote: »

    I'm sorry but I'm not going to hate somebody who happens to live in England because of what happened in Derry years before I was born.

    Yes neither am I but it doesn't mean I will ever respect that army, even in 20-30 years I still won't respect it, or the royal family.


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    #300
    wazky
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    Protesters were utterly in the wrong today.

    But I think alot of people are using this action by about 20 so called republicans as a stick to beat Sinn Fein/ nationalists with, the views of 20 people are not that of the majoirty of nationalists.


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    #301
    Kermit.de.frog
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    The vast majority of the Irish population are nationalist. If they weren't we wouldn't be living in a republic. These "protesters" most definitely do not represent the views of the vast majority of the Irish people.


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