Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

CiniO · 10-04-2014 12:55am

bladebrew wrote: »

Edit short version: sogood is correct, it's sensible to leave room at this busy merge, common sense wins and the left lane ends in about 500metres anyway

How is 40 seconds of driving in middle lane before the merge justified?

bladebrew · 10-04-2014 1:04am

CiniO wrote: »

How is 40 seconds of driving in middle lane before the merge justified?

Come down to Cork and I will show you:) i do agree he was in the middle maybe a bit early, but that particular area is a nightmare, I am always in the middle lane there, and that lane ends anyway just around the corner, it saves a lot of trouble just staying in the middle and letting the lunatics merge,

Woodpecker1 · 10-04-2014 8:33am

Is there not a middle lane thread already??????????????????????????????????????

Where are the vids!! All I see here is BS ..

Red Nissan · 10-04-2014 8:33am

I find this whole thread in general far too confusing. Can we possibly NAME the video and people replying quote the Name.

Like Jack Russel Survives so I can simply go back and find the OP for that. I know some of the places being mentioned, but so many of the videos look similar.

Just a thought.

People arguing about the middle lane in Cork [ie not using it] are not correct, one must travel in the middle lane in the area in question. Our new[ish] road system has provision for slow and bulky traffic, like Tractors, and especially the flyovers, where installed they are in essence a slow lane and should not be used by normal traffic in normal motoring.

lway · 10-04-2014 8:47am

CiniO wrote: »

How is 40 seconds of driving in middle lane before the merge justified?

For those of you who don't venture much outside the Pale, think of it like the N7 coming up to exit 9 Sallins/Naas North. There's three lanes and the leftmost lane turns into an exit lane, it's the same thing here the left lane turns into the off ramp for Douglas just ahead of where the video stops. In all my years driving the N7 people always drive the middle lane instead of the leftmost lane probably because they consider it the lane for exiting or perhaps they are afraid of getting boxed in on it. And believe me the Dublin drivers hog the middle lane for miles, not just for 40 seconds.

IMO OP is dead right, do the same myself on that junction as it's dangerous, if you take the leftmost lane you still have two lanes of traffic trying to merge from your left and two lanes to your right and you need to move right one lane to avoid being funneled down the off ramp to Douglas..

sogood · 10-04-2014 4:08pm

bladebrew wrote: »

The high horse brigade need a trip to Cork, the comments about the video here are getting ridiculous, I know this road well I worked on one side and lived on the other, so I drove it everyday, the lights at the roundabout below this flyover releases 2 lanes of traffic which have a fairly short journey to merge at 100km/h, needless to say this leads to people trying to merge at anywhere between 60-120km/h, nobody drives down the left here,
A few hundred metres beyond where the video ends the left lane turns off to Douglas and then it turns back into 2 lanes until after the Jack lynch tunnel,
One incident when I was in the left lane here resulted in a learner panicking when I slowed to let her merge she swerved at me then hit the brakes, I sped up a bit she then swerved across all the hatching back towards the hard shoulder,
A little bit of local knowledge will go a longer way to prevent an accident than looking at rules trying to cover every road in the country,
And this is from a person who spends his time on the N7 in the left lane with only Stobart trucks around me while every one cruises down the middle lane,
And I have just been in Australia where at every junction everyone moves to the outside lane, let's everyone merge then everyone moves back to the left, so if the high horse brigade head over and drive only in the left lane they will cause mayhem!

Edit short version: sogood is correct, it's sensible to leave room at this busy merge, common sense wins and the left lane ends in about 500metres anyway

Thank you. I use this road regularly and so, I let experience and common sense prevail. I'm not condoning "lane hogging" per se and I understand the attitude and opinions of some of the posters. If I was seen to be "lane hogging" so be it. Anyway, the original vid is posted a few pages back for those interested in the content.

cormie · 12-04-2014 8:24am

Here's a little compilation from the vans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVEDGjZuAE

Giblet · 14-04-2014 2:18pm

josip · 14-04-2014 3:54pm

Amazing how little damage was done to the car

John_Rambo · 14-04-2014 7:42pm

cormie wrote: »

Here's a little compilation from the vans

Where were you when the cars didn't like you parallel parking? I had someone tailgate me to stop me parking like that before in Roscommon town, he did it three time, beeped and blocked me when the white lights came on. Found it very odd. Never happened to me before.

dickwod1 · 14-04-2014 9:06pm

John_Rambo wrote: »

Where were you when the cars didn't like you parallel parking? I had someone tailgate me to stop me parking like that before in Roscommon town, he did it three time, beeped and blocked me when the white lights came on. Found it very odd. Never happened to me before.

Use your indicators next time :pac:

John_Rambo · 14-04-2014 10:37pm

dickwod1 wrote: »

Use your indicators next time :pac:

Ha!! It's ok, I had my fog lights on.

cormie · 15-04-2014 2:10am

That was in Bray, it was just an oldish man, it was my passenger saying "it's ok it's ok" waving at him from the passenger seat :P I think he probably just thought I didn't see him.

I had similar happen before, trying to park in one space, indicated, slowed, stopped, into reverse with reverse lights on and the car behind just comes right up behind me and blocks the turn. I saw another space just a bit further up so slowed down, before the space, put the hazards on creeping forward, turned them off and indicated in and the same thing, just pulls up right behind me blocking the space :rolleyes: I think it was more ignorance than anything.

The Dagda · 17-04-2014 10:46am

bladebrew wrote: »

The high horse brigade need a trip to Cork, the comments about the video here are getting ridiculous, I know this road well I worked on one side and lived on the other, so I drove it everyday, the lights at the roundabout below this flyover releases 2 lanes of traffic which have a fairly short journey to merge at 100km/h, needless to say this leads to people trying to merge at anywhere between 60-120km/h, nobody drives down the left here,
A few hundred metres beyond where the video ends the left lane turns off to Douglas and then it turns back into 2 lanes until after the Jack lynch tunnel,
One incident when I was in the left lane here resulted in a learner panicking when I slowed to let her merge she swerved at me then hit the brakes, I sped up a bit she then swerved across all the hatching back towards the hard shoulder,
A little bit of local knowledge will go a longer way to prevent an accident than looking at rules trying to cover every road in the country,
And this is from a person who spends his time on the N7 in the left lane with only Stobart trucks around me while every one cruises down the middle lane,
And I have just been in Australia where at every junction everyone moves to the outside lane, let's everyone merge then everyone moves back to the left, so if the high horse brigade head over and drive only in the left lane they will cause mayhem!

Edit short version: sogood is correct, it's sensible to leave room at this busy merge, common sense wins and the left lane ends in about 500metres anyway

I travelled that road daily when I lived in Cork and your description is very good, but using the excuse that "I know this road so I'm only doing this (hogging the middle lane) because of idiots further down the road", is one that everybody who doesn't use lanes correctly can use, to some extent.

It takes 5 seconds to move lane, and if you have to move lane because of someone else, then do. Don't hog the lane "in case" someone does something. Drive correctly, and if something happens THEN take corrective action.

Leaving room at that merge does not solely mean hogging the outside lanes. You can slow down, drive in the correct lane and move if neccessary.

Laziness/carelessness is the main reason people hog lanes, and it's a lazy, and arrogant argument to use the "I know the road so I can do this" excuse.

BMJD · 17-04-2014 11:04am

I forgot to save the clip before it was overwritten, but yesterday morning at around 08:15 on the M1 southbound just before the airport exit, there was a guy stopped half-way in the overtaking lane (there's a narrow heard shoulder type space on the right of the lane) who appeared to be changing a wheel :eek:

CiniO · 17-04-2014 11:50am

BMJD wrote: »

I forgot to save the clip before it was overwritten, but yesterday morning at around 08:15 on the M1 southbound just before the airport exit, there was a guy stopped half-way in the overtaking lane (there's a narrow heard shoulder type space on the right of the lane) who appeared to be changing a wheel :eek:

Maybe he couldn't make it to left hard shoulder, as other drivers were undertaking him after he got puncture.

dashcamdanny · 17-04-2014 11:58am

cormie wrote: »

Here's a little compilation from the vans

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Fair sure that was a loading area he was parked in.

Tell him to get the F out of there unless he is loading.

Hate that in Dublin city center. People using the loading bays to nip into a shop.

CiniO · 17-04-2014 12:00pm

I wonder whose fault was that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iRkGymTS9g

dashcamdanny · 17-04-2014 12:32pm

Hard to know. Is that area 30kph? That jeep driver was not slowing for people walking, yet those ambulance drivers take terrible risks with other peoples safety in general .

Great vid.

CiniO · 17-04-2014 12:35pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Hard to know. Is that area 30kph? That jeep driver was not slowing for people walking, yet those ambulance drivers take terrible risks with other peoples safety in general .

Great vid.

I wonder which street is the main road, and which have yield or stop signs...
Or maybe it's traffic lights.

jackofalltrades · 17-04-2014 12:53pm

The street the ambulance is on(Aungier Street) is the main road.
The street the Jeep is on is Longford street.
It's a traffic light controlled junction.

So it looks like one of the drivers was breaking a red light.

Mick55 · 17-04-2014 12:58pm

jackofalltrades wrote: »

The street the ambulance is on(Aungier Street) is the main road.
The street the Jeep is on is Longford street.
It's a traffic light controlled junction.

So it looks like one of the drivers was breaking a red light.

Just beat me to it! It looks like the geep was going through a green light ( Just a guess as he seems to be driving confidently/ aggressively), also looks like he was going too fast. Granted the ambulance may have ran a red light but some cautious driving on the geeps part could have easily averted it. Lucky no one was seriously injured. Imagine being in a bad way in the back of the ambulance and that happening, could have been nasty!

http://www.thejournal.ie/crash-dublin-ambulance-1411259-Apr2014/

Nonoperational · 17-04-2014 1:13pm

The Dagda wrote: »

I travelled that road daily when I lived in Cork and your description is very good, but using the excuse that "I know this road so I'm only doing this (hogging the middle lane) because of idiots further down the road", is one that everybody who doesn't use lanes correctly can use, to some extent.

It takes 5 seconds to move lane, and if you have to move lane because of someone else, then do. Don't hog the lane "in case" someone does something. Drive correctly, and if something happens THEN take corrective action.

Leaving room at that merge does not solely mean hogging the outside lanes. You can slow down, drive in the correct lane and move if neccessary.

Laziness/carelessness is the main reason people hog lanes, and it's a lazy, and arrogant argument to use the "I know the road so I can do this" excuse.

I would usually agree, but it is actually dangerous to go any further than the middle of the fly-over in the inside lane. There is a constant stream of 2 lanes of traffic trying to merge at high speed. Positioning yourself in the middle lane is much safer and perfectly reasonable as you approach the flyover.

The Dagda · 17-04-2014 1:18pm

Nonoperational wrote: »

I would usually agree, but it is actually dangerous to go any further than the middle of the fly-over in the inside lane. There is a constant stream of 2 lanes of traffic trying to merge at high speed. Positioning yourself in the middle lane is much safer and perfectly reasonable as you approach the flyover.

There is not "a constant stream of 2 lanes of traffic trying to merge at high speed". It's not Beijing. It's busy at certain parts of the day.

It takes 5 seconds to move lanes. Potential traffic is no excuse for hogging the middle lane.

JohnBoy26 · 17-04-2014 1:22pm

Wow that ambulance threw that jeep out of it's way like it was a piece of p1ss :eek:

oak5548 · 17-04-2014 2:08pm

I heard all ambulances have dashcams on the front and back so I'm sure they'll figure out who was in the wrong fairly quickly. Doubt we'll ever get to see the footage though

Lucky nobody was killed on the sidewalk tbh. Also look at the people crossing the road infront of the jeep, and he doesnt even slow down rather drives faster towards them.

one thing to note too is I dont think ambulances are legally covered at all if they break a red light. Its up to the drivers discretion to ensure its done safely, but I think most ambulances crews slow right down when breaking red lights any way to double check before continuing on.

Anyway, theres another ambulance that probably wont be replaced. It was already 8 years old as far as I'm aware.

bear1 · 17-04-2014 2:28pm

How much would a fully kitted ambulance cost?

cormie · 17-04-2014 2:32pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Fair sure that was a loading area he was parked in.

Tell him to get the F out of there unless he is loading.

Hate that in Dublin city center. People using the loading bays to nip into a shop.

Oh no, he was actually in the car behind me on the road

mitosis · 17-04-2014 2:36pm

CiniO wrote: »

I wonder whose fault was that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iRkGymTS9g

The circumstancial evidence is the car was running the light. There were many pedestrians crossing both sides of the junction across his path, none crossing the other way. It suggests the green man was showing.

dr.fuzzenstein · 17-04-2014 3:23pm

mitosis wrote: »

The circumstancial evidence is the car was running the light. There were many pedestrians crossing both sides of the junction across his path, none crossing the other way. It suggests the green man was showing.

Also, the ambulance just blew through that junction.
If the light for the ambulance was red, it would have crept very cautiously through the junction instead.
So, my guess, light for Jeep was red. 5 bucks and my left nut.

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