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    #2162
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Grimebox wrote: »
    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Private schools are massive wastes of money both on parents and the state. I dont see the point of them but im open to suggestion maybe theres something I dont see

    Just look at the CAO statistics. A much higher percent of people who to go private schools end up going to college. There are obviously exceptions to this (Colaiste Eoin and Colaiste Iosagán in Dublin)

    How are they a waste of money on the state???

    I totally agree with that part. To elaborate I mean I have a good a degree as those who went to private school. I dont see how private school is required for an excellent degree.


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    #2163
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    LeighH wrote: »
    Correlation is not the same as causation though. Perhaps the kind of parents who send their kids to private school encourage / expect / force their kids to study and go to college? Perhaps those same kids would have done just as well at a public school?

    You also are heavily affected by your peers. I would argue a lot of those students who would be borderline would get discouraged in public schools. There is an opposite effect in private schools


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    #2164
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    LeighH wrote: »
    Correlation is not the same as causation though. Perhaps the kind of parents who send their kids to private school encourage / expect / force their kids to study and go to college? Perhaps those same kids would have done just as well at a public school?

    Indeed a lot of people from disadvantaged ares simply dont see themselves as college material. On the other side of the coin those from private schools are conditioned to think college is for them.


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    #2165
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Grimebox wrote: »
    LeighH wrote: »
    Correlation is not the same as causation though. Perhaps the kind of parents who send their kids to private school encourage / expect / force their kids to study and go to college? Perhaps those same kids would have done just as well at a public school?

    You also are heavily affected by your peers. I would argue a lot of those students who would be borderline would get discouraged in public schools. There is an opposite effect in private schools

    Thats my point ultimatly theres a lot from private schools who see college as an aim rather than the career behind the degree. Look at the amount of drop outs in first year science for example. The real test of a student is wheter they get a 1.1 or drop out. The disadvantaged students I know dont see dropping out as an option.


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    #2166
    spirit_77
    Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭spirit_77


    mrs.brown's boys is complete crap.


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    #2167
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    spirit_77 wrote: »
    mrs.brown's boys is complete crap.

    I don't think that's unpopular.


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    #2168
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Thats my point ultimatly theres a lot from private schools who see college as an aim rather than the career behind the degree. Look at the amount of drop outs in first year science for example. The real test of a student is wheter they get a 1.1 or drop out. The disadvantaged students I know dont see dropping out as an option.

    Whereas some public schools see people passing their junior cert as a goal.

    Secondary schools can't control what people do once they leave. I don't know how they could influence students to be more career orientated before going to college. Nobody would do a philosophy degree if everyone had this mindset. College is a learning experience in itself. I think schools seeing college as an aim for their students is a realistic goal.


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    #2169
    spirit_77
    Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭spirit_77


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    I don't think that's unpopular.

    be surprised by the amount of people i know who love it and consider it better than father ted :mad:


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    #2170
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    So in this thread, if your post gets thanked by a lot of people , you actually failed because its not that unpopular :pac:


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    #2171
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Unless a man is grotesquely ugly the reason he can't consistently pull hot women is down to his personality. It's not because you aren't good looking enough or too poor, it's because you are weak emotionally or mentally.


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    #2172
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    The shawshank redemption is overrated. Midnight express is a far superior prison movie.


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    #2173
    skregs
    Registered Users Posts: 746 ✭✭✭skregs


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I have a good a degree

    Maybe you should hold off from slating those schools just yet.


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    #2174
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,021 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    And if you can afford to send your child to private school, better chance you have of affording to send them to college.

    Technically just about every school in the state is a private school since they have patrons (usuallly a church) and collect fees "voluntary" contributions from parents. Granted the level of these fees is considerably higher in some schools than others but then again thats how the market works.


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    #2175
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    skregs wrote: »
    steddyeddy wrote: »
    I have a good a degree

    Maybe you should hold off from slating those schools just yet.

    Lets just say its not english. Hey I never said public schools were much better!


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    #2176
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    You quoted Coppedge (1973).

    Concerning Dr. Jack Szostak. 2009

    I'm sure Dr Meinheimer would have something to say about that.


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    #2177
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    The shawshank redemption is overrated.

    Too much of a Hollywood ending for me, good film though, not top 5 or anything like that, without the Hollywood ending coulda been a contender. The Player (the non x rated version) is way under rated.

    Anyway, no party has a fecking clue how to get out of the financial crisis. Left and Right wing is just about different ways of repeating the same mistakes again.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #2178
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Mickey Dazzler wrote: »
    An Irish man has a 1 in 3 million chance of catching HIV from a white women in Ireland today. Ergo.... no chance.
    He also has a 1 in 3 million chance of getting a woman pregnant. Ergo.... no chance. I'm confused now, as people get pregnant all the time :confused:


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    #2179
    focus_mad
    Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭focus_mad


    My opinion on some mortgages;

    It's the same as going into a bar and getting a round of drinks. Barman goes I have these shots only 20 quid more. You hmm and haw then buy them. It was your decision, no one else's.

    Now adapt it to property,

    You go to the bank for (say) a mortgage totaling 300k, bank manager goes you can have a bigger one if you want (say 450k). You hmm and haw then take it. No one forced you to but now it's everyone's fault but your own.

    Yes I have had multiple arguments about this but my opinion is my opinion.

    Another thing, did no one have the cop on to not spend 300k on a former council house and instead buy a big house with a bit of land in a commuter area????


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    #2180
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Women as good looking as the women in the 'nuts' type magazines that lads drool over are very common.


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    #2181
    Lanaier
    Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Lanaier


    Football is fun to play but a snooze-fest to watch.

    Irish weather is amazingly good.


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    #2182
    Lanaier
    Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Lanaier


    - China will not overtake the US as worlds No1 superpower.

    - If they did, it would not be "better".

    - Ketchup ruins chips, a tiny amount is ok sometimes.

    - Sausages drowning in ketchup: wtf? :confused:

    - Panda's should be extinct. A lot of money is being spent to preserve a species that wont even help themselves, there are plenty of humans out there who WILL try to survive and need the money.


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    #2183
    iwishiknew
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭iwishiknew


    SV wrote: »
    Women as good looking as the women in the 'nuts' type magazines that lads drool over are very common.

    Fixed :D


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    #2184
    iwishiknew
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭iwishiknew


    Ricky Gervais is about as funny as runny poo. An Idiot abroad is short two idiots.


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    #2185
    Seomra Mushie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Seomra Mushie


    SV wrote: »
    Women as good looking as the women in the 'nuts' type magazines that lads drool over are very common.

    Took a minute to get the ol' noggin around this. :o
    Lanaier wrote: »
    - Panda's should be extinct. A lot of money is being spent to preserve a species that wont even help themselves, there are plenty of humans out there who WILL try to survive and need the money.

    Agreed. Pandas should be long gone.


    Another unpopular opinion: portions in eating establishments, be it for breakfasts, lunch, or dinner, are WAY to big in this country and need to be reduced. Yes, you could just stop eating but many people hate waste and doggy bags are not the norm here so many (me included) eat more than they want to/should. People might complain about not getting value for money then, so maybe prices should come down too.


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    #2186
    wilkie2006
    Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭wilkie2006


    Originally Posted by Sgt Hartman viewpost.gif
    I can't stand Bod Dylan or Bruce Springsteen. Boring dreary ****ehawks, the two of em.

    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Well said. Boring music for boring people.

    Boring Grown-up music for boring grown-up people.


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    #2187
    KittyeeTrix
    Registered Users Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    focus_mad wrote: »
    Another thing, did no one have the cop on to not spend 300k on a former council house and instead buy a big house with a bit of land in a commuter area????

    I did:D


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    #2188
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Opening up Ireland to Polish workers and other countries drove up rent and drove down wages in areas like hotels and barman where I spent a few years working

    Neither of these suited me

    I know we followed the UK but I would have preferred higher restrictions like Germany and France did

    Many on boards will say immigration was great of course and I'm backwards

    But I'm neither a business owner or a landlord and from my point of view, I didn't see many benefits to it.

    Guess I'm a xenophobe now :(


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    #2189
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    From another thread capitalism and it has lifed more people out of poverty then any other system tried in history.

    If you want to solve Africa's problems what they need is more sweat shops, then they will start to develop.

    As for sweat shops, I worked in one, in my first job in the 80s, low pay, shift work, no union and poor conditions as did a lot of people, but then because of those labour intensive jobs coming from foreign investment Ireland was lifted out of the malaise of our economic stagnation to become one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

    But now we may be heading back there but I seriously doubt to those depts. We still have it relatively good.


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    #2190
    paddyandy
    Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    If i have one Opinion that is popular then i must re-evaluate it .If i have Two then i must re-evaluate myself .If i have three.........


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    #2191
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭RichieC


    paddyandy wrote: »
    If i have one Opinion that is popular then i must re-evaluate it .If i have Two then i must re-evaluate myself .If i have three.........

    The life of the malcontent is tough indeed..


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