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    #2132
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Seomra Mushie wrote: »
    You do realise this is AH, where there have been a number of recent threads on the subject of obesity with MANY people sharing your view?

    No, I did not realise that. In day to day life, people get very aggravated if you express this view.


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    #2133
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    You should tell more people this, it'll end obesity overnight.

    I tell ya, if only people listened to everything I said, we'd be living in a Utopia overnight. ;)


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    #2134
    Orando Broom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    You should tell more people this, it'll end obesity overnight.

    End stupidity and you end obesity.


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    #2135
    Seachmall
    Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Seomra Mushie wrote: »
    Anyway we all know it's "simple" but it's not really, is it? Obviously there's other things going on with the morbidly obese.

    Eat more than you burn and you'll put on weight.
    Eat less than you burn and you'll lose weight.
    Eat as much as you burn and you'll maintain weight.

    It's that simple, it really is.


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    #2136
    Seomra Mushie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Seomra Mushie


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Eat more than you burn and you'll put on weight.
    Eat less than you burn and you'll lose weight.
    Eat as much as you burn and you'll maintain weight.

    People who whinge about metabolic rates just aren't factoring their metabolic rate into the above.

    It's that simple, it really is.

    Yup, that's what I meant by "simple". But yet, we still have morbidly obese people. Why is that, if it's so simple? The refusal of many people to acknowledge psychological causes is worrying. I hope none of these people ever suffer mental anguish in their lives.


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    #2137
    Seachmall
    Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Seomra Mushie wrote: »
    psychological causes

    I get where you're coming from, address the underlying issue, but most people (myself included) are fat due to eating too big portions or due to the ease of fast food.

    Of course some are indulging themselves to deal with depression or other similar reasons but I'd wager most of us are simply fat out of laziness.


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    #2138
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Don't get me wrong, I comfort eat, my weight goes up and down at times, but I'm aware its my own fault and I don't let it go too far before I reign it in. I don't think depression rates are anywhere close to obesity rates. Also, plenty of depressed people are slim, so I'm not buying that obesity is due to mental illness. As with everything, there will be exceptions.


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    #2139
    Seomra Mushie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Seomra Mushie


    LeighH wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I comfort eat, my weight goes up and down at times, but I'm aware its my own fault and I don't let it go too far before I reign it in. I don't think depression rates are anywhere close to obesity rates. Also, plenty of depressed people are slim, so I'm not buying that obesity is due to mental illness. As with everything, there will be exceptions.

    Depression causes many differential symptoms in different people. Some people lost their appetite, some people eat way more than normal. Some people can't sleep, some people sleep too much etc etc. Nowhere did I say every depressed person overeats, or indeed that depression is the only thing that might cause it. So depression rates aren't going to match obesity rates. Plus depression is just ONE kind of mental illness.


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    #2140
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I think men should do the chasing, not women.


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    #2141
    Zorbas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Zorbas


    stupidusername wrote: »
    I think men should do the chasing, not women.

    Irrespective of sex or drive, the one that has highest body mass should do the chasing.


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    #2142
    Fear Uladh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh


    stupidusername wrote: »
    I think men should do the chasing, not women.

    That only works if if the lad is good looking.

    Otherwise he is just a stalker.


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    #2143
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Zorbas wrote: »
    Irrespective of sex or drive, the one that has highest body mass should do the chasing.

    you mean if the woman is physically bigger, she should?
    Fear Uladh wrote: »
    That only works if if the lad is good looking.

    Otherwise he is just a stalker.

    That is true.


    Either way it should still be the man. A girl should always know when a guy is interested. If she doesn't, then he's doing it wrong.


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    #2144
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    stupidusername wrote: »
    Zorbas wrote: »
    Irrespective of sex or drive, the one that has highest body mass should do the chasing.

    you mean if the woman is physically bigger, she should?
    Fear Uladh wrote: »
    That only works if if the lad is good looking.

    Otherwise he is just a stalker.

    That is true.


    Either way it should still be the man. A girl should always know when a guy is interested. If she doesn't, then he's doing it wrong.

    Agree with that yea but some women just like the attention and nothing beyond that. Some men chase the same women forever and some women like that. There has to be a balance!


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    #2145
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    The atomic bombings of Hirishoma and (particularly) Nagasaki didnt appreciably hasten the end of the Second world war and the notion they did is simply propaganda to justify a war crime against a civilian population.


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    #2146
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    The atomic bombings of Hirishoma and (particularly) Nagasaki didnt appreciably hasten the end of the Second world war and the notion they did is simply propaganda to justify a war crime against a civilian population.

    They were basically live experiments.


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    #2147
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Agree with that yea but some women just like the attention and nothing beyond that. Some men chase the same women forever and some women like that. There has to be a balance!

    yeah, see this is where people get stupid - women like to be chased for the attention...and men are happy to do this chasing because they think they'll eventually get some. both stupid.


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    #2148
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    The atomic bombings of Hirishoma and (particularly) Nagasaki didnt appreciably hasten the end of the Second world war and the notion they did is simply propaganda to justify a war crime against a civilian population.

    On the other hand however.
    The casualties total in the immediate aftermath of the two bombings would not have amounted to much more than those amassed from a few further weeks of the B52 bombs that were setting Japanese cities alight at a huge rate. These cities were all seen as legitimate targets in some form or other because of their production of weapons. At least that is how it is legitimised. Or try and figure out a way of successfully defending against the kamikazi tactics which were in full use at the time. Picture a barely trained 18 year old pilot who is essentially guiding a missile to its target.

    At this stage the Americans enjoyed completely unmolested air superiority and treated all merchant ships carrying goods to Japan as enemy targets.
    If you want to look at war crimes against a civilian population look at the B52 bombings ordered for months and months before the Japanese subdued.

    However if you want to look at the other side look at the massacres perpetrated by the Japanese on US POW's or Filipino citizens or during their occupation of China where they had deployed a huge amount of their troops even as all the major cities of Japan burned.

    The endgame in the Pacific was bloody and brutal and consisted of many battles where precious little tactical gains were made for many many losses on both sides. However to suggest that the US committed war crimes any more than the Japanese is simply untrue.

    Would suggest Nemesis as a decent account detailing all aspects of the end game. It makes Stalingrad look like Ann and Barry though.


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    #2149
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    stupidusername wrote: »

    That is true.

    So, only if the guy is good looking should he chase the girl? Introducing subjectivity here is a dangerous thing.


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    #2150
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    The atomic bombings of Hirishoma and (particularly) Nagasaki didnt appreciably hasten the end of the Second world war and the notion they did is simply propaganda to justify a war crime against a civilian population.

    On the other hand however.
    The casualties total in the immediate aftermath of the two bombings would not have amounted to much more than those amassed from a few further weeks of the B52 bombs that were setting Japanese cities alight at a huge rate. These cities were all seen as legitimate targets in some form or other because of their production of weapons. At least that is how it is legitimised. Or try and figure out a way of successfully defending against the kamikazi tactics which were in full use at the time. Picture a barely trained 18 year old pilot who is essentially guiding a missile to its target.

    At this stage the Americans enjoyed completely unmolested air superiority and treated all merchant ships carrying goods to Japan as enemy targets.
    If you want to look at war crimes against a civilian population look at the B52 bombings ordered for months and months before the Japanese subdued.

    However if you want to look at the other side look at the massacres perpetrated by the Japanese on US POW's or Filipino citizens or during their occupation of China where they had deployed a huge amount of their troops even as all the major cities of Japan burned.

    The endgame in the Pacific was bloody and brutal and consisted of many battles where precious little tactical gains were made for many many losses on both sides. However to suggest that the US committed war crimes any more than the Japanese is simply untrue.

    Would suggest Nemesis as a decent account detailing all aspects of the end game. It makes Stalingrad look like Ann and Barry though.
    View involves too much thought and substance, and thus not in the spirit of the thread - banned.


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    #2151
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    Toby Take a Bow wrote: »
    So, only if the guy is good looking should he chase the girl? Introducing subjectivity here is a dangerous thing.

    oh dear.

    It was a joke. generally guys that are obsessive about a girl can be split into two groups - flatteringly interested (good looking) and stalker (ugly). I didn't come up with it ya know, it's one of them things.


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    #2152
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    stupidusername wrote: »
    oh dear.

    It was a joke. generally guys that are obsessive about a girl can be split into two groups - flatteringly interested (good looking) and stalker (ugly). I didn't come up with it ya know, it's one of them things.

    Ah yeah, I wasn't being serious either myself.


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    #2153
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    I hate being an ugly stalker :(


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    #2154
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I hate being flatteringly interested.


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    #2155
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I think thanking people's photos of themselves is a bit weird.


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    #2156
    Pretty_Pistol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Pretty_Pistol


    Ryan Goslings face annoys me.


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    #2157
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Minutes' silences make me cringe.


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    #2158
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Private schools are massive wastes of money both on parents and the state. I dont see the point of them but im open to suggestion maybe theres something I dont see


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    #2159
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Private schools are massive wastes of money both on parents and the state. I dont see the point of them but im open to suggestion maybe theres something I dont see

    Just look at the CAO statistics. A much higher percent of people who to go private schools end up going to college. There are obviously exceptions to this (Colaiste Eoin and Colaiste Iosagán in Dublin)

    How are they a waste of money on the state???


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    #2160
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Correlation is not the same as causation though. Perhaps the kind of parents who send their kids to private school encourage / expect / force their kids to study and go to college? Perhaps those same kids would have done just as well at a public school?


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    #2161
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    And if you can afford to send your child to private school, better chance you have of affording to send them to college.


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