Your unpopular music opinions

rcaz · 24-10-2011 8:02pm

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Radiohead are s hit, and their fans seem to be annoying little twerps with an inflated sense of musical superiority.

But you don't come across like that at all

And how can you say Eminem is crap? His lyrics, rhythms, and rhymes are all incredible, all the time. I'd agree with you on 50, and Jay Z is pretty good, but Eminem is completely incredible.

http://youtu.be/0NjEkruY5TA

Edited for the uncensored version, the clean version has about 60% of the lyrics

rcaz · 24-10-2011 8:13pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO2wA0Te0wM

Incredible rhyming through the whole song :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miIxNCn-vjY

(skip to around 2:50 there)

karaokeman · 24-10-2011 10:31pm

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Michael Jackson is perhaps the most overrated musician ever, and a vile human being.

Try not to drag this thread off-topic, it happened a while back with the whole John Lennon a wanker thing. This thread is about musicians and our opinions on their music not their personality.

You made a few good points in my opinion, most notably;

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

David Bowie is massively overrated.

Bowie is the king of meh.

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Beyonce has some great songs, yet gets lumped in with all the other crap pop acts for some reason.

The same goes for Robbie Williams.

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

Eminem, 50 Cent, Jay Z; all the most famous rappers, yet all crap.

All rap is crap.

I wouldn't agree on any of your other arguments. Beady Eye you mentioned are a hugely underrated band. I hate Liam with a burning passion but I don't condemn his band now nor did I with Oasis.

Da Shins Kelly · 24-10-2011 10:38pm

karaokeman wrote: »

All rap is crap.

Ridiculous statement.

rcaz · 24-10-2011 10:41pm

karaokeman wrote: »

All rap is crap.

Have a listen to the two videos I posted above?

SilverScreen · 24-10-2011 11:47pm

karaokeman wrote: »

All rap is crap.

You haven't heard enough of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c2FltyVAAc

ItsAWindUp · 25-10-2011 9:09am

El Pr0n wrote: »

But you don't come across like that at all

And how can you say Eminem is crap? His lyrics, rhythms, and rhymes are all incredible, all the time. I'd agree with you on 50, and Jay Z is pretty good, but Eminem is completely incredible.

http://youtu.be/0NjEkruY5TA

Edited for the uncensored version, the clean version has about 60% of the lyrics

How do I come across that exactly? It;s called unpopular opinions, and my opinion on Eminem is certainly unpopular, but it's my opinion nevertheless and you can't tell me I'm wrong.

rcaz · 25-10-2011 9:16am

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

How do I come across that exactly? It;s called unpopular opinions, and my opinion on Eminem is certainly unpopular, but it's my opinion nevertheless and you can't tell me I'm wrong.

I was referring to you calling all Radiohead fans 'annoying twerps with an inflated sense of musical superiority'.

karaokeman · 25-10-2011 9:32am

In a nutshell;

Take That are an amazing band as singers, songwriters and musicians. They play the best live show ever and their music is constantly changing. And together with Robbie Williams its another story, just incredible. The fab five in my opinion.

U2 and Coldplay are two of the greatest rock bands who ever lived. Most people who hate either are just trying to be cool.

Green Day are better than Metallica, Nirvana, AC/DC and Led Zepellin.

Kelly Clarkson is better than Adele, Alicia Keys and Whitney Houston.

Shania Twain is a very good songwriter.

Red Hot Chili Peppers write good lyrics.

Thin Lizzy were the best metal/hard rock band EVER!!!!!!!!

Blink 182, My Chemical Romance and Fallout Boy all suck. Bands who think they are rock just because they can play hard, seriously what else can these guys do?

The Beatles early stuff is complete and utter diatribe. Yellow Submarine especially is s***.

Madonna and George Michael are both dire, the two most overrated pop stars in music history.

Girls Aloud have some good songs and they are better than they're given credit for. Nadine and Nicola are the two most talented members of the band, they both write their own songs and play instruments.

Beady Eye are actually a very good band but no where near as good as Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

Stop Crying Your Heart Out is the best Oasis song.

Radiohead aren't that good I agree with ItsAWindUP on that one. Oasis were right to bash them around all these years.

Everyone loves ABBA, The Carpenters and any power ballads especially Foreigner and REO Speedwagon.

Rap is a load of bull****. That much is obvious from my previous posts about rap.

Eminem is an ok songwriter, I don't really get his appeal. Would rather have Chris Martin, Noel Gallagher, Gary Barlow or Alex Turner as a great lyricist anyday.

The Prodigy are quite overrated but then again that opinion might change when I do get to see them live.

Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash. Neither of them could sing a note.

Will Young can't sing either.

X Factor is absolutely terrible. Especially this year and last, only person worthwhile who came from that show who is likely to have longevity is Leona Lewis.

Modern boybands have no spark whatsoever. McFly, Jonas Brothers, JLS, The Wanted, completely meh.

Android 666 · 25-10-2011 12:57pm

karaokeman wrote: »

The Beatles early stuff is complete and utter diatribe. Yellow Submarine especially is s***.

I didn't realise that I want to hold your hand was actually an abusive denunciation… Silly me.

Tell one thing though, is the lobotomy reversible?

Malice · 25-10-2011 1:07pm

karaokeman wrote: »

The Beatles early stuff is complete and utter diatribe. Yellow Submarine especially is s***.

I think you've got the wrong word at the end of the first sentence.

di·a·tribe: a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism.

What word did you mean to put in there?

Edit: Damn Android 666 got there first

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Sinfonia · 25-10-2011 1:24pm

karaokeman wrote: »

In a nutshell;

Take That are an amazing band as singers, songwriters and musicians. They play the best live show ever and their music is constantly changing. And together with Robbie Williams its another story, just incredible. The fab five in my opinion.

I have to say, I've been at a live show (for free, long story :P ) and it was actually really brilliant entertainment.

U2 and Coldplay are two of the greatest rock bands who ever lived. Most people who hate either are just trying to be cool.

If U2 had stopped in the 90s and Coldplay had stopped about halfway through the 2nd album, I'd more or less agree with you. I still love Parachutes.

Green Day are better than Metallica, Nirvana, AC/DC and Led Zepellin.

Another band who should have stopped earlier. After Insomniac would've been on the highest note, but I'll say after Nimrod because of Hitchin' A Ride. Either way, before Warning.
I still wouldn't put them above any of the other bands mentioned though, particularly Led Zeppelin.

Kelly Clarkson is better than Adele, Alicia Keys and Whitney Houston.

Don't know enough about these singers to comment fairly, but in terms of her vocal ability, she's not better than Whitney Houston anyway. Songs might be better, I don't know.

Shania Twain is a very good songwriter.

"Ok, so you got a car... That don't impress me much"
Please.

Red Hot Chili Peppers write good lyrics.

Present tense, no.
BSSM is still one of my favourite albums, but Californication should have been the stopping point.

Thin Lizzy were the best metal/hard rock band EVER!!!!!!!!

They really weren't. Good band, but not the best by a long way.

Blink 182, My Chemical Romance and Fallout Boy all suck. Bands who think they are rock just because they can play hard, seriously what else can these guys do?

At times, they can do/have done a lot more than Green Day. But overall, they're not great.

The Beatles early stuff is complete and utter diatribe. Yellow Submarine especially is s***.

Look up what diatribe means.

Madonna and George Michael are both dire, the two most overrated pop stars in music history.

Most overrated? Come on now.

Girls Aloud have some good songs and they are better than they're given credit for. Nadine and Nicola are the two most talented members of the band, they both write their own songs and play instruments.

They are far worse than they are given credit for, like most musicians.

Beady Eye are actually a very good band but no where near as good as Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

Don't know enough to comment, I've only heard two songs by Beady Eye and none by NGHFB (!) I wasn't impressed with Beady Eye at all though.

Stop Crying Your Heart Out is the best Oasis song.

Not a massive Oasis fan, but Supersonic, Morning Glory and Live Forever are far better songs off the top of my head.

Radiohead aren't that good I agree with ItsAWindUP on that one. Oasis were right to bash them around all these years.

Radiohead are excellent, the Gallagher brothers are annoying petty mudslingers.

Everyone loves ABBA, The Carpenters and any power ballads especially Foreigner and REO Speedwagon.

Beyond ridiculous. Foreigner though are actually a pretty good band, beyond the cheese factor of certain tracks.

Rap is a load of bull****. That much is obvious from my previous posts about rap.

I agree that rap tracks that tend to make the charts are awful club-bangers. There really is so much great music in the genre though. Even popular rappers will usually have terrible money-making singles, with pretty good album tracks behind them. Eminem would be a good example of that.

Eminem is an ok songwriter, I don't really get his appeal. Would rather have Chris Martin, Noel Gallagher, Gary Barlow or Alex Turner as a great lyricist anyday.

Basically I disagree.

The Prodigy are quite overrated but then again that opinion might change when I do get to see them live.

Music for the Jilted Generation is really excellent, as is most of the earlier material. I lost interest with the newer stuff, but of what I heard it seems ok.

Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash. Neither of them could sing a note.

Didn't really matter. By the standards of really excellent singers, most popular artists are shite. It's not always about technical accuracy in performance. The people you've cited as good singers? Maria Callas and Pavarotti they ain't.

Will Young can't sing either.

As above.

X Factor is absolutely terrible. Especially this year and last, only person worthwhile who came from that show who is likely to have longevity is Leona Lewis.

Agreed, except for the Leona Lewis comment.

Modern boybands have no spark whatsoever. McFly, Jonas Brothers, JLS, The Wanted, completely meh.

Yeah.

Da Shins Kelly · 25-10-2011 2:04pm

karaokeman wrote: »

In a nutshell;
Take That are an amazing band as singers, songwriters and musicians. They play the best live show ever and their music is constantly changing. And together with Robbie Williams its another story, just incredible. The fab five in my opinion.

Wouldn't disagree.

karaokeman wrote: »

U2 and Coldplay are two of the greatest rock bands who ever lived. Most people who hate either are just trying to be cool.

Neither have been good in years.

karaokeman wrote: »

Green Day are better than Metallica, Nirvana, AC/DC and Led Zepellin.

Maybe better than AC/DC, but that wouldn't be hard.

karaokeman wrote: »

Kelly Clarkson is better than Adele, Alicia Keys and Whitney Houston.

She's not technically a better singer than Whitney Houston.

karaokeman wrote: »

Shania Twain is a very good songwriter.

Very debatable.

karaokeman wrote: »

Red Hot Chili Peppers write good lyrics.

No.

karaokeman wrote: »

Thin Lizzy were the best metal/hard rock band EVER!!!!!!!!

Pff.

karaokeman wrote: »

Blink 182, My Chemical Romance and Fallout Boy all suck. Bands who think they are rock just because they can play hard, seriously what else can these guys do?

I didn't realise this was an unpopular opinion.

karaokeman wrote: »

The Beatles early stuff is complete and utter diatribe. Yellow Submarine especially is s***.

Oh, words and their meanings...

karaokeman wrote: »

Madonna and George Michael are both dire, the two most overrated pop stars in music history.

Well that's just not true.

karaokeman wrote: »

Girls Aloud have some good songs and they are better than they're given credit for. Nadine and Nicola are the two most talented members of the band, they both write their own songs and play instruments.

They have a couple of catchy songs.

karaokeman wrote: »

Beady Eye are actually a very good band but no where near as good as Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

Unimpressed by either band.

karaokeman wrote: »

Stop Crying Your Heart Out is the best Oasis song.

I don't really like any Oasis songs, but I can think of better ones than this.

karaokeman wrote: »

Radiohead aren't that good I agree with ItsAWindUP on that one. Oasis were right to bash them around all these years.

Radiohead are, were and always will be a million times better than Oasis ever were, even if Oasis were half the band they thought they were.

karaokeman wrote: »

Everyone loves ABBA, The Carpenters and any power ballads especially Foreigner and REO Speedwagon.

I don't think I've met anyone who denies themselves a bit of ABBA.

karaokeman wrote: »

Rap is a load of bull****. That much is obvious from my previous posts about rap.

Utter rubbish. I seriously doubt you've listened to "all rap" to be in a position to make such an absurd statement.

karaokeman wrote: »

Eminem is an ok songwriter, I don't really get his appeal. Would rather have Chris Martin, Noel Gallagher, Gary Barlow or Alex Turner as a great lyricist anyday.

Eminem is a better songwriter than any of the above, and also far more iconic than all of them.

karaokeman wrote: »

The Prodigy are quite overrated but then again that opinion might change when I do get to see them live.

No, they're not.

karaokeman wrote: »

Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash. Neither of them could sing a note.

Very debatable on the Johnny Cash issue, but it doesn't really matter anyway.

karaokeman wrote: »

Will Young can't sing either.

Who cares?

karaokeman wrote: »

X Factor is absolutely terrible. Especially this year and last, only person worthwhile who came from that show who is likely to have longevity is Leona Lewis.

Leona Lewis is sh*te too.

karaokeman wrote: »

Modern boybands have no spark whatsoever. McFly, Jonas Brothers, JLS, The Wanted, completely meh.

Yep.

fruvai · 25-10-2011 2:18pm

Take That are an amazing band as singers, songwriters and musicians. They play the best live show ever and their music is constantly changing. And together with Robbie Williams its another story, just incredible. The fab five in my opinion.

:pac:

U2 and Coldplay are two of the greatest rock bands who ever lived. Most people who hate either are just trying to be cool.

U2 are one of the greatest rock bands even if they never make a good record (and they haven't for decades). Coldplay have one good album, the rest varies from decent to atrocious - they are not a great rock band.
Some of the hate stems from the fact that the frontmen of both bands are utter gob****es though.

Green Day are better than Metallica, Nirvana, AC/DC and Led Zepellin.

No they're not and I have no great love for 3/4 of those bands you mentioned. Green Day were never even a good punk band. American Idiot is a testament to their pomposity and utter stupidity

Red Hot Chili Peppers write good lyrics.

Anthony Kiedis is bar a couple of exceptions, a horrible writer and a stain on an otherwise talented band (and I like RHCP)

My disenchanted diplomat,. asleep inside the laundromat

:D

The Beatles early stuff is complete and utter diatribe. Yellow Submarine especially is s***.

Define early stuff - I see this opinion trotted out on a regular basis yet there is no specificity- is it all the albums up until Revolver or is it after With the Beatles? They are some great songs on Help, Hard Days Night and Rubber Soul

Beady Eye are actually a very good band but no where near as good as Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

Both are ****e and have been creatively bereft of ideas for decades

Radiohead aren't that good I agree with ItsAWindUP on that one. Oasis were right to bash them around all these years.

I suppose it was easier to criticise their peers than to look critically at the ****e they produced themselves. The Gallaghers are great at getting press attention but not so great at actually writing songs.

Rap is a load of bull****. That much is obvious from my previous posts about rap.

:pac:

Eminem is an ok songwriter, I don't really get his appeal. Would rather have Chris Martin, Noel Gallagher, Gary Barlow or Alex Turner as a great lyricist anyday.

None of the above are great lyricists

X Factor is absolutely terrible. Especially this year and last, only person worthwhile who came from that show who is likely to have longevity is Leona Lewis.

Leona who? Oh yeah she's best known for a cover of a cover of a cover

Like much of the ephemera that defines the weird and wonderful world of the X-Factor, contestants and winners are now largely irrelevant. The X-Factor is principally a vehicle for the huge egos of the judges

Modern boybands have no spark whatsoever. McFly, Jonas Brothers, JLS, The Wanted, completely meh.

What do you expect from eunuchs?

Android 666 · 25-10-2011 3:06pm

karaokeman wrote: »

In a nutshell;

Take That are… completely meh.

I'm not going to quote the whole thing because it is too long but I'm going to address a couple of things. You seem to live in MOR land in which the safest option is the best and it seems extraordinarily dull. All the people you list as being good are people that are or have become devoid of any personality or tension in their music. Christ, it's beyond boring. Not something I'd normally recommend but you need to invest in some class As and some totally out there music. Listen to music that makes you feel alive whether it's through being a relentless punishment, a cradle of sadness or a melody that makes you take flight. Not music that sits in this bland soup like Shania fúcking Twain or the fúcking Script or U2 or whatever lumpen bollocks that constitutes AOR these days. Listen to Slint, Mogwai, Super Furry Animals, Fúcked Up, The Eels, Minor Threat, Fugazi, Carcass, Napalm Death, Underworld, B12, Joy Orbison, Roy Orbison, Hüsker Dü, Jesus Lizard, Ministry, Radiohead, Brendan Benson, Portishead, Massive Attack, Steven Jesse Bernstein, Death, Aphex Twin, George Fitzgerald, Autechre, The Shins, And You Will Know Us By the Trail of the Dead…, They Might be Giants, Big Star, Ben Folds, Martyn, The Mountain Goats, The Sabres of Paradise, Patsy Cline, The Monks, Bad Brains, anything…

There is so much good music out there, why waste your ears on what record companies deem is the safest bet for mass consumption? Listen to stuff that can inspire beyond foot tapping. It's fúcking great!!!

Oh and Anthony Keidis is probably the worst lyricist out there at the moment. Bob Dylan mightn't have been able to sing but listen to the emotion he could convey on songs like Just like Tom Thumb Blues and Like a Rolling Stone. Magnificent stuff altogether…

karaokeman · 25-10-2011 5:27pm

fruvai wrote: »

Define early stuff - I see this opinion trotted out on a regular basis yet there is no specificity- is it all the albums up until Revolver or is it after With the Beatles? They are some great songs on Help, Hard Days Night and Rubber Soul

Really I'm not that big into anything written by the Beatles from 1962-1966.

Yellow Submarine is possibly the most overrated song in history. Just the fact its lyrics could be used for a children's television show. It's just not my taste.

I'm also not mad about any of The Beatles solo material, Lennon, McCartney, Harrison or Starr.

In short yes I do find The Beatles to be pretty overrated. Agreeably they are the most influential band of all time but to me that doesn't qualify them as the best.

Madonna also is a huge influence on modern pop stars and yet she is totally overrated. I'm not trying to compare Madonna with The Beatles because The Beatles are much better musically and vocally than Madonna is or ever was back in the day, but my point is that the person who influenced another act is not always better.

Coldplay and U2 are another example. U2 influenced Coldplay but Coldplay are still better.

Back to The Beatles, their material I like is mainly the later stuff like Hey Jude and Let It Be, those are the songs that deserve recognition not nursery rhymes like Can't Buy Me Love, A Hard Day's Night, Ticket To Ride and Please, Please Me.

Kold · 25-10-2011 6:06pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA

JerryHandbag · 25-10-2011 6:18pm

karaokeman wrote: »

Red Hot Chili Peppers write good lyrics.

I like the Chilis, but

lyrics from Around the World
"I know, I know, for sure/ding ding dang ding ding ding don ding don dang"

No. Just no.

karaokeman · 25-10-2011 8:33pm

JerryHandbag wrote: »

I like the Chilis, but

lyrics from Around the World
"I know, I know, for sure/ That life is beautiful around the world / I know I know it's you / You say, "Hello" and then I say, "I do"

No. Just no.

Please tell me what's wrong with these lyrics you just referred to?

rcaz · 25-10-2011 9:06pm

This thread is fantastic!

SilverScreen · 25-10-2011 10:13pm

karaokeman wrote: »

Please tell me what's wrong with these lyrics you just referred to?

Let's just say W.B. Yeats can rest easy in his grave.

Malice · 25-10-2011 10:28pm

El Pr0n wrote: »

This thread is fantastic!

It really is. So many utterly wrong opinions in one giant 24 page thread

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Kold · 25-10-2011 10:37pm

El Pr0n wrote: »

This thread is fantastic!

It's starting to irk me.

JerryHandbag · 25-10-2011 11:00pm

karaokeman wrote: »

Please tell me what's wrong with these lyrics you just referred to?

Throwaway lyrics at best. I'm sure Anthony Keidis would even admit that himself.

onlyrocknroll · 26-10-2011 1:15am

Here are a few.

U2 are neither good enough nor bad enough to get excited over.

Pink Floyd are nothing special.

Amy Winehouse was great and Back to Black is a fantastic album.

Radiohead's electronic albums are every bit as good as their guitar based ones.

I don't care that Adele has a fantastic set of pipes on her, she's boring and her supposedly very emotional stuff seems contrived.

I completely love the Beatles, but I admire people who hate them. Only because the idea that you have to love them is really pompous and needs deflating. Usually when people defend bands by saying that you have to like them because they're 'classic', they're referring to boring middlebrow crap like the Eagles or Direstraits or something similar. By getting all precious and defensive about the Beatles, people are inadvertently lumping them in to that dreaded classic status- safe, middle-aged, stadium filling tosh. The Beatles are far too original and brilliant to be considered in this group.

Lady Gaga may be an interesting person but musically she's as dull as dishwater.

Not everybody who dislikes Abba is lying and trying to be superior. They honestly make my f**king skin crawl. I'm not pretending.

And finally AC/DC may keep releasing the same song over and over again, but it frigging rocks. Especially this version of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bomv-6CJSfM

onlyrocknroll · 26-10-2011 1:26am

El Pr0n wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO2wA0Te0wM

Incredible rhyming through the whole song :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miIxNCn-vjY

(skip to around 2:50 there)

I don't really like Eminem but that shows amazing talent TBF. Interestingly even Seamus Heaney considers him to be a wonderful lyricist.

Oasis_Dublin · 26-10-2011 2:05am

Android 666 wrote: »

I'm not going to quote the whole thing because it is too long but I'm going to address a couple of things. You seem to live in MOR land in which the safest option is the best and it seems extraordinarily dull. All the people you list as being good are people that are or have become devoid of any personality or tension in their music. Christ, it's beyond boring. Not something I'd normally recommend but you need to invest in some class As and some totally out there music. Listen to music that makes you feel alive whether it's through being a relentless punishment, a cradle of sadness or a melody that makes you take flight. Not music that sits in this bland soup like Shania fúcking Twain or the fúcking Script or U2 or whatever lumpen bollocks that constitutes AOR these days. Listen to Slint, Mogwai, Super Furry Animals, Fúcked Up, The Eels, Minor Threat, Fugazi, Carcass, Napalm Death, Underworld, B12, Joy Orbison, Roy Orbison, Hüsker Dü, Jesus Lizard, Ministry, Radiohead, Brendan Benson, Portishead, Massive Attack, Steven Jesse Bernstein, Death, Aphex Twin, George Fitzgerald, Autechre, The Shins, And You Will Know Us By the Trail of the Dead…, They Might be Giants, Big Star, Ben Folds, Martyn, The Mountain Goats, The Sabres of Paradise, Patsy Cline, The Monks, Bad Brains, anything…

There is so much good music out there, why waste your ears on what record companies deem is the safest bet for mass consumption? Listen to stuff that can inspire beyond foot tapping. It's fúcking great!!!

Oh and Anthony Keidis is probably the worst lyricist out there at the moment. Bob Dylan mightn't have been able to sing but listen to the emotion he could convey on songs like Just like Tom Thumb Blues and Like a Rolling Stone. Magnificent stuff altogether…

Hattie Jacques' pretentious cheese wog.

Da Shins Kelly · 26-10-2011 3:01am

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

I don't really like Eminem but that shows amazing talent TBF. Interestingly even Seamus Heaney considers him to be a wonderful lyricist.

It's because he is. If you study his writing style (which I have, by the way), he's quite old fashioned. He deals a lot with very traditional themes and poetic techniques, while mixing it with colloquialisms. When you actually properly read his stuff, the level of time and effort he must put into it is amazing. It's very intricate stuff. On top of that, the writing style very often compliments his style of delivery (the kind of angry, stop-start style of rapping, building tension, etc.) so even when you're reading it, you're reading it the way should be delivered. The feeling from the lyrics is not just in the meanings of the words, but also in the structures of the sentences, rhyming techniques and alliteration, and such. I do not see how anyone who properly listens to his stuff can argue that he's not a great lyricist.

Android 666 · 26-10-2011 9:34am

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

Hattie Jacques' pretentious cheese wog.

Nah, cake would be too strong. I was thinking along the lines of something that wouldn't make him puke up his pelvis bone…

karaokeman · 26-10-2011 9:36am

Malice wrote: »

It really is. So many utterly wrong opinions in one giant 24 page thread .

Thankfully not one closet Justin Bieber fan has posted here yet.

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