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Love/Hate [** Spoilers **]

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    #332
    Wertz
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    Elmo wrote: »
    The Wire pre-dates the Shield????

    Both 2002 afaik.


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    Feeded
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    Was the character 'ELMO' in Love/Hate one of the musicians in The Commitments. . I think he was a guitarist????


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    #334
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    Feeded wrote: »
    Was the character 'ELMO' in Love/Hate one of the musicians in The Commitments. . I think he was a guitarist????

    sure he'd be too young to have been a musician in that
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0455663/


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    #335
    Elmo
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    Feeded wrote: »
    Was the character 'ELMO' in Love/Hate one of the musicians in The Commitments. . I think he was a guitarist????

    TV character's robbing my nickname on boards yet again. :rolleyes: You think they would have come up with something better. There is no way an Elmo is a Gangsta.

    Elmo_da_Gangsta_by_Mrd122.jpg


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    #336
    Lvbrs
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    I happened upon this utter ****e last night while flicking thru channels. Who the hell wrote this and got away with it??? The script is horrific, dialogue unbelievable, accents awful and then they throw in some musical moments???? It's a bad scanger version of GLEE. Why am I wasting my TV licence money on cretins who continually come up with dramas about gangland Ireland, junkies, scangers etc as though they were entertaining? They are far from entertaining in reality, so please do not put them on the telly in this amateur styled programme. Garbage!!!


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    Ash.J.Williams
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    Lvbrs wrote: »
    I happened upon this utter ****e last night while flicking thru channels. Who the hell wrote this and got away with it??? The script is horrific, dialogue unbelievable, accents awful and then they throw in some musical moments???? It's a bad scanger version of GLEE. Why am I wasting my TV licence money on cretins who continually come up with dramas about gangland Ireland, junkies, scangers etc as though they were entertaining? They are far from entertaining in reality, so please do not put them on the telly in this amateur styled programme. Garbage!!!
    Ah jaysus it wasn't that bad!


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    #338
    el diablo
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Ah jaysus it wasn't that bad!


    Yeah I reckon it was one of RTÉ's better productions although a bit short at four episodes.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



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    #339
    super_furry
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Ah jaysus it wasn't that bad!

    It was made and funded by RTÉ ergo it must be the worst possible crap imaginable - at least according to this forum - witness Hardy Bucks.

    Only caught a couple of episodes of Love/Hate and while it looked good and the script seemed tight, the lead character just wasn't believable as an underworld drug dealing murderer. He was too much of a pretty boy and his scanger accent was well off.


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    Ash.J.Williams
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    super_furry wrote: »
    It was made and funded by RTÉ ergo it must be the worst possible crap imaginable - at least according to this forum - witness Hardy Bucks.

    Only caught a couple of episodes of Love/Hate and while it looked good and the script seemed tight, the lead character just wasn't believable as an underworld drug dealing murdering. He was too much of a pretty boy and his scanger accent was well off.
    He seemed to "dublin" up a bit for the last episode?


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    #341
    Elmo
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    el diablo wrote: »
    Yeah I reckon it was one of RTÉ's better productions although a bit short at four episodes.

    Most of the posters who have said this, possibly said this about every other new drama RTÉ have produced. I am going to go through boards at some stage and prove this point.


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    Dont think it was meant to be entertaining as such, and the reality is that there is dangerous psychos in society, not too unlike the characters in love/hate, who are taking pops at each other in the streets and have the law in their pocket, lets be honest.

    I thought Brian Gleeson was excellent in it personally. if i had a criticism of him, he prob too similar in style to his old man to the point that if his old man played a character in something, they could use Brian for his flashback scenes if he had any.


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    91011
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    Rayne Quick Memento wrote: »
    This was diabolic, as bad as the script was it was very unrealistic too in many parts.
    Did you see when Brendan Gleesons son shot himself and the Luas strolled passed? Was that a foopaa, the ERU would have been there in second. It was at bluebell football club on the nass road, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Crumlin, Ronanstown and Lucan copshop all within a stones throw away!

    Why do so many naysayers come up with this location tripe. Show me one TV drama or film anywhere in the world that is location perfect so that the few local people watching can transport themselves into the locations? - there isn't one.

    Did we tear Father ted apart becasue the cinema was in Greystones and the parochial house was meant to be on a west clare island and was actually 30 miles inland in corofin.

    Do we tear CSI New York apart because one scene in Queens and the next down at Coney Island?

    Do we tear Criminal Minds apar because one scene in a totally different area of La than the porevious one - yet its meant to be around the corner?

    No we don't. Us Irish only tear our own apart because of phenonemal jealousy.


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    #344
    Elmo
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    91011 wrote: »
    Do we tear CSI New York apart because one scene in Queens and the next down at Coney Island?

    Do we tear Criminal Minds apar because one scene in a totally different area of La than the porevious one - yet its meant to be around the corner?

    May I say that Love/Hate is ten times better than either of these shows?


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    shinny
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Dont think it was meant to be entertaining as such, and the reality is that there is dangerous psychos in society, not too unlike the characters in love/hate, who are taking pops at each other in the streets and have the law in their pocket, lets be honest.

    I thought Brian Gleeson was excellent in it personally. if i had a criticism of him, he prob too similar in style to his old man to the point that if his old man played a character in something, they could use Brian for his flashback scenes if he had any.

    +1. I think he was the only one I genuinely believed to be a psycho!! Agree that he was so like his old man. Good idea about the flashbacks for Brendan!!

    All in all I quite enjoyed this and there are way too many people on here who didn't like it just because RTE made it. That's....well, just rather pathetic to be frank.


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    shinny wrote: »
    +1. I think he was the only one I genuinely believed to be a psycho!! Agree that he was so like his old man. Good idea about the flashbacks for Brendan!!

    All in all I quite enjoyed this and there are way too many people on here who didn't like it just because RTE made it. That's....well, just rather pathetic to be frank.

    So true and like to be honest this wouldn't be an easy thing to research unless Ross Kemp or Donal McIntyre was willing to do it for you


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    #347
    ianrush
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    Rayne Quick Memento wrote: »
    I would love to know what it cost them to produce start to finish.
    The budget for the four episodes was just over 2 million.


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    #348
    Redr
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    I thought Love/Hate was great! Okay, Darren was too Bambi-like with the big, green eyes as was his love interest but wasn't Nig great? Total gurrier, unattractive, a charmer, a sycophant regarding John Boy, mean, unemotional, me feiner? A very good actor.


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    #349
    kippy
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    Rayne Quick Memento wrote: »
    :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Dunno what you are surprised about..........
    These things cost money to make.
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/869035/how_much_do_television_shows_cost_to.html


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    #350
    Elmo
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    Rayne Quick Memento wrote: »
    They probably blew half it on the use of the rap tracks. I'm surprised that it was that much and still terrible.

    And your not surprised that Grey's Anatomy costs €2.5million per episode.


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    #351
    ThisRegard
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    Finished it today and thought it was good, I'll echo comments about Gleeson, he played his character very well and was the stand out character in it. Don't get the criticisms about it, particularly the accents, obviously those who made them have been fortunate not to have any dealings with some of Dublins finest.


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    #352
    Hifiseller
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    Rayne Quick Memento wrote: »
    This was diabolic, as bad as the script was it was very unrealistic too in many parts.
    Did you see when Brendan Gleesons son shot himself and the Luas strolled passed? Was that a foopaa, the ERU would have been there in second. It was at bluebell football club on the nass road, Clondalkin, Ballyfermot, Crumlin, Ronanstown and Lucan copshop all within a stones throw away!

    1) They drove around in flashy cars.
    2) They drove around with guns seemingly all the time, I would say the majority of these so called gangsters would only have guns on them when absolutely needed etc & get the dropped to the area they are needed by little nobodys in your average run of the mill cars but to carry them around themselves in 520d BMWs - Hello 7 years minimum please.
    3) They carried cash around a lot themselves and went into a house where elmos father was counting buckets of notes. They would be the most stupid criminals going to have a safe house for cash counting etc that they personally visit in an associates fathers home - PLEASE. Ever heard of the proceeds of crime act and detention of cash beyond 48 hours? Clearly the script writers didn't.

    In real life things would have been a lot more subtle, the drug handovers etc would have been by the two aul lads on the side line watching the local sunday football game where there were bags left right and centre and no one would have noticed or suspected a thing.

    Please don't anyone compare it to the wire, the wire was a work of art. This was tripe. I would love to know what it cost them to produce start to finish.

    What a load of ****e.....just one of those nobs whos going to be critical of everything cos thats their purpose on internet forums ...picking pedantic holes...oh is that how it would pan out in real life is it? you sound like a real gangster all right.....this series was effin very good...right from everything about Nig to the hard / cold facial expressions of John Boy (leaving aside his accent for a while)..to the way the whole thing was lit which captured a lot about Dublin around a certain time of the year..

    Some very nice touches from Nig doing his somersault into the wedding to Hughie shooting himself in the head a la recent Limerick criminal....good stuff

    Yes its not the WIre...... because its not meant to be the Wire


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    #353
    Hifiseller
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    Ah jaysus it wasn't that bad!

    Sounds like he just has a scanger phobia...midsomer murders might suit more...


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    #354
    thesandeman
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    *reminder to myself* Pull emergency cord everytime I see lads messin around from the window next time Im on the train going at 70mph (Could be a long and expensive journey from Galway to Dublin) but sure Im only doing my civic duty ;-)


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    #355
    Diceicle
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    Was a very good RTE drama. Really enjoyed it. I presume it was only commisioned for 4 initial episodes to keep costs down and for RTE to see what the reaction to it was. Hopefully RTE give it the proper breathing room to develop the characters and commision 12 or so episodes.


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    itsbillythehick
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    el diablo wrote: »
    Yeah I reckon it was one of RTÉ's better productions although a bit short at four episodes.

    Still didn't have enough plot to fill the four episodes they had. If they'd slotted in a subpolt about someone actually suffering from the amount of drugs they consume, rather than just how much power and money you get from dealing them, it would've been a stronger show.

    But seriously, the musical number at the wedding? Beyond ridiculous. What they were thinkng, I'll never know.


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    #357
    Elmo
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    itsbillythehick wrote: »
    Still didn't have enough plot to fill the four episodes they had. If they'd slotted in a subpolt about someone actually suffering from the amount of drugs they consume, rather than just how much power and money you get from dealing them, it would've been a stronger show.

    But seriously, the musical number at the wedding? Beyond ridiculous. What they were thinkng, I'll never know.

    Have to agree. They could have easily placed a sub-plot in with relation to the woman that was handing money over to Nidge, she owes him 1000 euro.

    Here is a good drama about drug trafficing from Channel 4 (its an old one but a good one).

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/traffik/4od#2922449

    Even Proof did a better job of dealing with Gansters etc.


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    #358
    Namabillion
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    RTÉ show Love/Hate wins major award

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/2010/1115/rte.html

    RTÉ's gangland drama 'Love/Hate' has won the Cinéma Tous Ecrans (CTE) Best Series Award.
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    Love/Hate - Won the Cinéma Tous Ecrans Best Series Award
    The international film festival, held every year since 1995 in Geneva, Switzerland, brings together television, film and multimedia.

    'Love/Hate' was commissioned by RTÉ as a four-part series and produced by Octagon Films.

    Written by Stuart Carolan, it starred Aidan Gillen, Robert Sheehan, Brian Gleeson, Ruth Bradley and Ruth Negga.

    Jane Gogan, Commissioning Editor of Drama in RTÉ, said: "The high viewing figures the series commanded demonstrate that the series was of strong appeal, and is representative of RTÉ Drama's ambition to be relevant and innovative in terms of what we deliver to our audience."

    "This award is testimony to the overall calibre of the series and we have high hopes that as 'Love/Hate' is picked up by international broadcasters that its reputation and fan base will continue to grow."

    The series also secured a nomination for Best Drama at the prestigious Prix Europa Awards in October.


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    #359
    willowthewisp
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    Heard they're shooting the second series, wonder if Darren will still be alive, or has Stumpy done for him!


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    #360
    Colmo52
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    willowthewisp wrote: »
    Heard they're shooting the second series, wonder if Darren will still be alive, or has Stumpy done for him!

    According to the Sunday World a few weeks ago
    He survived


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    Effects
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    I thought
    Darren
    had died until today. They're shooting some of it in a friends apartment, scenes with
    Darren and Rosie
    .


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