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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    You've literally been breathing in other people's exhaust fumes since birth, both lung air and bum air, so when exactly did you develop this aversion to other people's used air..... was it before, during or after covid?

    That's how life works I'm afraid, yet here you are, calling others trolls in one breath while trying to spread fear with the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭kk1970


    So the message in general is.

    Stay warm this winter , but open all the windows 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Haven;t worn one for months here in Barcelona, it's all theatrical nonsense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    The main testing centres were due to be wound down end of Jan 2023, wife is a part time swabber on temporary contract.

    Word came through yesterday that the HSE was considering a further extension.

    After doctor referals were stopped they were only testing HCPs yet they were maintained on skeleton staff in the larger towns. The HSE seem reticent to pulling the plug completely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Why keep the testing centres open when only a few can get a PCR test? Makes no sense at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    The fear is if they need to be restarted for general testing, the staff & infastructure wont be in place. They are running with skeleton staff but still running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    They have no fear of starting up testing again. They are ignoring the whole thing and that won't change.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Do ye reckon people are even testing themselves any more if feeling sick? I rarely hear of people being covid positive any more.

    Both my father and sister have been a bit sick this week, tested themselves out of curiosity and were surprised to have it. Both are doing the 'right thing' and restricting movements for 7 days (on Christmas week 🙄), but it almost seems pointless when probably 5-10% of the population have it at any one time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Looks like the hospitals are having problems with spread within the hospitals



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    I had a dose of something recently, it wasn't covid because I tested myself twice.

    And why did I test myself twice? Because if it was covid, I got a week off work, no questions asked.

    Unfortunately (with regards to time off work), it wasn't covid so after two days I was back in the office because I wasn't going to pay a doctor for a cert for the third day off.

    And even though I was hacking up a lung, no one cared once I told them I tested negative for covid twice. I could have lied and said I had covid, but I don't need to be caught out on a lie and get fired just at the start of a recession.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I’m going to be honest during the original lockdowns I was staunch mask, staunch isolation and followed everything I was supposed to. When things stopped being mandatory like masks etc I stopped voluntary use except for a few times when the plane demanded I wear one etc.


    saying that I’m fully vaccinated and fully up to date with booster. Got I think my last booster a couple of weeks ago as I have epilepsy and that apparently falls under the expedited exemption. Anyway I agree with your point about testing, now in the last month I personally know about 10 people who have got COVID. Most recently 4 were not able to attend my god daughters christening as they had got covid the day of it. I was like why test yourself to stop doing something. Especially when there is no mandatory 7 day isolation etc,

    bur Also saying that I bought 2 tests weeks ago as somebody asked me to but then never picked them up and I had them in the house, my mother got really Ill very quickly with shivers cough etc so I tested her in case we had to go to hospital. Luckily it was negative,

    so I disagree with you saying no one is getting it. They are and knocks them out for a week but the testing is irrelevant. If you are not knocked out then then you should be able to go on your way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    Back in October of 2020 I stated that any rushed vaccines would at best be 30% effective at stopping or spreading infection.

    I would like to now apologize. I did not mean to get everyone’s hopes up like that. Time has shown that they are significantly more inadequate.

    Happy Christmas 🎄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,703 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No it hasn't. You are misrepresenting a study which showed 30% versus Omicron infection as somehow applying to vaccination for all variants, including original and delta variants.

    Your statement is false and without foundation.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    They always had that problem! The highest chance of getting Covid was in a hospital.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭jimmybobbyschweiz


    Wu Flu deja vous with fresh hysteria.

    Bizarre to target Chinese only, almost seems racist as that was what Trump tried to do a few years ago and was called out as such.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's not bizarre. They had a unique zero Covid policy. They've only just removed that (due to those protests), AND have only just removed travel restrictions, which means a whole lot of Chinese are rushing to go to other countries, and a lot of them have Covid (they haven't had so much exposure and thus herd immunity as we've had). Not a good combination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy


    How does that affect the US though? Covid is already rampant in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    So let me get this right… Italy and the USA want a negative covid test if your travelling from China to enter their countries… but if you’ve the flu RSV etc work away………….

    the mind boggles!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Ah that's just nonsense really. Theres zero countries that have herd immunity if you look at the numbers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    We aren't talking about a couple of cases here, on one flight into Italy, 52% of the Chinese passengers were Covid positive

    Japan, India and now the US have all announced measures for travellers from China. A key concern is the variants that could be coming over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Still seems a bit pointless when covid is rampant all over the world. If there is one thing we have learned it is not possible to stop covid variants quickly spreading throughout the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It simply means a significant portion of the pop. have had immunity (resistance to the virus) via normal exposure to Covid and/or being vaccinated

    China is different. It's had this bizarre closed ecosystem, which has suddenly opened up, it represents a fifth of the human population, hence the intl concern about the variants that this wave of Chinese travellers might bring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    They aren't arriving in cars, it's on planes, so asking for negative tests beforehand is not complex and can dramatically reduce the positives. The concern I've read is more about the variants, China is not exactly the most open country about it

    Again this is not about "stopping", that's not possible. It's about reducing.

    If you can sign a simply policy that gets you planes with 1% positives rather than 50% positives, you'll take the former.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I was not a fan of mass testing of travellers last time round.Didn't see the point.

    Now I think it would be worth it for people originating from, resident, or visiting from China.Everywhere else has this as under control as it can be, yet China went off down it's own path before realising that doesn't work.Now they have reopened suddenly, with zero preparation, and are foisting various forms of this blasted virus on the world AGAIN.Is once not enough?

    (Sorry.This is not politically correct.But how have they not realised yet that their actions can have a huge impact on everyone else in the world.Their Government are so obsessed with themselves, it's ridiculous.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It doesn’t work though. One person getting through with a variant is enough to infect a whole country. A policy that is simple but doesn’t work should not be used. Let’s be honest here, it’s a political move against China, nothing more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's not about stopping. It's about controlling and reducing.

    It's not about politics, it's about caution, which is why other countries are also implementing measures like Japan/India, I reckon more countries with high volumes of incoming Chinese will also follow suit.

    Again, this is a unique situation because what's happening in China is unique.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    We've already learned that this stuff doesn't work.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It’s a highly infectious virus. It’s not possible to control and reduce outside of a level five lockdown. As I said it only takes one infected person getting through. Reducing the numbers getting through has no impact. The last few years have proven that.



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