Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings

darconio · 17-01-2022 07:42PM

Some french restaurants changed their status into private club: you can obtain a free membership card on the spot and in this way they are not obliged to enforce the covid cert to their customer. Not sure what's the Irish regulation for what regards private clubs, could this be done over here?

PTH2009 · 17-01-2022 07:45PM

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1483123631328796680?s=20

I'm guessing Covid will still come out after 12

FFS going back into these phases and will no doubt be dragged out till maybe after Paddy's Day. No doubt 100% attendance's for indoor and outdoor are still not been considered and for what scientific reason might that be ??

growleaves · 17-01-2022 07:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491032#Comment_118491032

There are casinos which open til 4am in the middle of Dublin right now.

Many casinos in this country are private clubs, and were open even while 'casinos' officially had the same status as nightclubs (Level 1?)

I could see private cinema clubs becoming a thing here if certs aren't got rid of.

JRant · 17-01-2022 07:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491045#Comment_118491045

I hope the IRFU are exploring the possibility of playing games in England because another year with tiny crowds for the 6N is going to be crippling for them.

growleaves · 17-01-2022 07:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491064#Comment_118491064

Lets blow this fascist popsicle stand.

astrofool · 17-01-2022 07:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490757#Comment_118490757

They haven't started legislating for fourth doses yet have they? (It doesn't look like the EMA will approve a 4th shot without strict conditions from time of the third shot).

17-01-2022 07:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118454070#Comment_118454070

It’s actually a stick.

astrofool · 17-01-2022 08:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490896#Comment_118490896

I posted about it about a week ago, the economic cost of a low vaccinated populace is quite high in extra healthcare etc. there will be a non-medical push to get unvaccinated vaccinated because of this cost, they're looking at what might happen beyond Omicron and taking no chances.

I don't agree with it, but France and other countries ain't messing about with it and don't want further restrictions or lockdowns.

brickster69 · 17-01-2022 08:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491089#Comment_118491089

Who knows what they will do next. Sounds like Israel are starting to go cool on the idea now also going by early reports

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-study-shows-4th-vaccine-shot-not-good-enough-against-omicron/

growleaves · 17-01-2022 08:18PM

No one knows anything about human nature anymore. Macron saying he is going to 'torment' the unvaccinated is going to make it even harder to convince the recalcitrant because now they'll feel like they're giving in. Now its a personal defeat.

This is one task at which Martin, with his sad eyes and gentle pleading, is much better. He has enough humility and wisdom not to hit people over the head with threats though our cert system is even harsher than the French one.

JRant · 17-01-2022 08:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491084#Comment_118491084

The crowds would flock to the games if they did move them across.

brickster69 · 17-01-2022 09:04PM

These vaccination passes have been in the planning for years now, even the most ardent anti conspiracy theorist will be hard pushed to deny it. The travel pass was just an excuse to get it into full use.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/system/files/2019-09/2019-2022_roadmap_en_0.pdf

noraos · 17-01-2022 09:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491360#Comment_118491360

If I couldn't get a ticket to a game i'd still go for the buzz in the pubs imagine the craic..!. I'd probably have tears of happiness rolling down my face as I hug random strangers in Irish Jerseys..or any nationality really haha. I'd even be smiling while standing in a long queue for the ladies...cos it would feel 'normal' 🤣!!

Father Hernandez · 17-01-2022 09:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491045#Comment_118491045

What’s the science behind closing time of 12pm. Will any journalist/reporter even question this?

We’re supposed to be led by science as has supposedly been the case along. Is there any science behind 12pm closing or is it solely another attack on the hospitality sector from someone who is anti alcohol?

walus · 17-01-2022 09:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491169#Comment_118491169

One possibility could be that frequent vaccination in fact reduces the natural immunity that comes from T-cells, and consequently more and more people contract the virus as T-cells become less effective.

is there any science on what 4 shots of mRNA do to the immune system? That was a rhetorical question btw.

in my opinion whoever recommends these vaccines to healthy young people and kids is a charlatan.

DLink · 17-01-2022 09:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490896#Comment_118490896

Lots of other countries in the world to visit......

I'd like to say good luck to the French, and off with them, but our clowns won't want to be left behind because, you know, they won't want to go from being the hardest in Europe to the softest 🙄

bokale · 17-01-2022 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491483#Comment_118491483

What closing time would you suggest? And what's the science for it?

noraos · 17-01-2022 09:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491507#Comment_118491507

Alot of people Ferry to France but drive further on into Europe.., I do it my self every year and usually don't have accommodation booked as I just have my tent.. I wonder what would be the case be here if you're just effectively passing through...

UK truck drivers..there are lot of reasons people land in France, not just for tourism.. its the gateway to us here and UK too..Vaccine mandate in Canada-US caused major delays in deliveries etc..Will be interesting to see how it goes..

bucketybuck · 17-01-2022 09:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491517#Comment_118491517

Are we officially at the point where the general public has to argue their case not to be restricted?

Its not so long ago that Leo was saying this: "Freedom was hard won in our country, and it jars with us, to restrict and limit individual liberties, even temporarily."

Or is restriction now the default, there to stay unless we can justify otherwise?

bokale · 17-01-2022 09:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491549#Comment_118491549

Nah I'm trying to push my Give Us The Night narrative!

https://twitter.com/GiveUsTheNight/status/1483117972327645187?t=_ILoEavRSnkSeUC1GYPsLw&s=19

Chris_5339762 · 17-01-2022 09:45PM

I can see an Omicron (or whatever the next variant is) booster being available in September/October. And that will be the start of an annual Covid booster campaign for those at risk and healthcare workers etc.

BruteStock · 17-01-2022 09:46PM

Things haven't been open past 12 in over two years. Unless you count the time they threw us a pity bone for 3 weeks. The time for no restrictions is now, people need a break. God forbid another flavour mutates and we're back to square one. No more phased reopening cos we heard it all before.

Dickie10 · 17-01-2022 09:55PM

i think we could have a period each winter where we have 10pm shutting during xmas, to curb too much flu season.

Penfailed · 17-01-2022 09:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491661#Comment_118491661

I don't.

lawred2 · 17-01-2022 10:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491169#Comment_118491169

A 5th dose obviously.

bucketybuck · 17-01-2022 10:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491661#Comment_118491661

I got pilloried last year for daring to point out that the justifications for restrictions pre-vaccine availability would still apply post-vaccine, whenever the health service came under pressure for any reason. Yet here we are.

The same people who called me a doom monger then will probably do so again, but the same principle still applies today, you cannot clap on your balcony for the front line heroes and then ignore them for a normal trolley crisis.

We opened pandoras box and it is no surprise that we are struggling to close it again.

mcsean2163 · 17-01-2022 10:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118489376#Comment_118489376

Maybe see it from their point of view.

The system pre lockdown forces them to commute long distances and miss out on the most important years with their children. Their children's lives were being damaged by a risible system.

Why would they rush out to help others, others that realistically could change career if they really wanted, to do something that would damage their children? I suspect there will be little remorse except maybe to the 18 -- 22 years old brigade.

lawred2 · 17-01-2022 10:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491683#Comment_118491683

No no no my clapping only extended to covid related measures. Couldn't give a shoite otherwise.

bucketybuck · 17-01-2022 10:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491697#Comment_118491697

Its takes some neck to pretend that any of what happened was to protect the children. Or is throwing children under the bus actually just for their own good?

17-01-2022 10:07PM

Call me a cynic, but isn't it very, very convenient that as soon as PCR case positives begin to stabilise, NPHET promote adding antigen test results to bump up the figures to make the picture look uglier?

Of course, that means NPHET is likely to include this data as a reason for restrictions to continue beyond 31 January.

What a shambles.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings