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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    What are the anti-vaxxers against in regards to the vaccine? Honest question, as I'd also like to know if the vaccine is in any way bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭corkie


    The @hpscireland has today been notified of 23,281* confirmed cases of #COVID19.

    As of 8am today, 656 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 85 are in ICU.


    https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1477257679932473349?t=6YbF2qasUWMAWDwNp-fmWQ&s=19

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    This really is over , I'd say 3 in 5 I speak to have had it over Xmas. It will be over by Feb and misery news will need to move on

    I suspect it will need a country to take the lead and stop being cautious- prob UK, before others follow suit.

    Booster campaign is relatively damp squib and while rNA vaccines have helped greatly for vulnerable their long time efficacy against coronavirus leaves lot to be desired.

    Surprising to see people in their 30s and 40s saying thank god for vaccine and It could have been so much worse with omicron infection

    People seem to forget it was a mild illness to begin with before vax even with alpha a lot of people being completely asymptomatic. Remember when my wife got the original strain and 18 other nurses , worse effect anyone had was losing smell for a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    23,281 cases today, 656 in hospital which is down 26 from yesterday, 85 in ICU which is 1 down on yesterday...steady as she goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Great article, thanks for sharing here or I wouldn't have seen it. In fairness to Daniel he's one of a very few journalists here who's not afraid to question the government/NPHET narrative. He always seems a reasonable voice when on radio shows here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    A New Years Eve party will give some people a kick in the hole to get off their 3 square meals a day bed in 25 degrees heat hospital.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Looks like they’re clearing the decks in hospitals just in case.

    and of course the inevitable staff shortage.



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Rashad Miniature Roadblock



    I'm doing the same. She's been positive on antigens since Christmas eve and officially since 27th.

    I was funking to get it at the same time to attend a christening on the 9th Jan. It just looks like I've completely dodged it at this point for whatever reason. There has been no distance between us in our apartment.

    Piles of Guinness is the best vaccine :-)



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    It could be that hospital stay lengths are lower with Omicron?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Parties? most was at home and had to endure that awful effort from RTÉ to celebrate New Years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Just on your last point. There does seem to be a rewriting of history going on. It's made out like all unvaccinated are at risk of severe disease. Let's not forget before vaccines of you were under 30 and no under lying issues your chances of ending up in hospital was something like 1 in 10,000, that has not changed. Younger people were being pushed the vaccine under the premise that you'll be less likely to pass it to vulnerable people which doesn't seem to help now anyway.

    My parents are boosted (60s) and I'm delighted they are and I'm double vaccinated but I'm in absolutely no rush to get a third, I just don't see what advantage it'll make. Apart from telling us to get a booster vaccine, have the government told us why under 40s should get it? Have they said what difference it'll make to our chances of ending up in hospital or ICU? Have they said how less likely a boosted person is to get and pass on Omnicrom as a double vaccinated person?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    You can catch it and transmit it being fully vaccinated too so what good is the vaccine passport at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    As far as I know in SA and the UK they were significantly lower



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    From what I can see there is increasing evidence of that. There was a HCW on Twitter saying that quite a few are admitted more in precaution, CT scans are done and then discharged.

    And no doubt they are also dealing with many who get it, are vaccinated, yet believe they are on deaths door. For these, we need the GP network properly up and running without demanding the impossible PCR test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,098 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The latest is a conspiracy between the Pfizer salesmen and the Central Statistics Office, very little else going on, they seem to be moving onto the restrictions being a conspiracy instead (without saying who's behind it, a lot have the FDA and CDC behind it which obviously neglects the worldwide part of a pandemic).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    Another one who stayed in although I watched Jools Holland. Was grand except Ed Sheeran murdered Raglan Road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,241 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You can lose taste and smell with omicron, it’s just not as prolonged and not always a symptom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I was at home too last night, but didn’t have to endure anything.



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tony said the other day that 5% in hospitals are not infectious.

    How can you be not infectious? I assume that could only mean testing negative?

    If someone is in hospital with COVID and starts testing negative, do we keep them in the figures until discharged?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Hey boy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    Yip exactly. I remember listening to UK Radio when euros were on and hearing NHS adds that 1 in 3 won't know they have it.

    For under 50s Covid was always mild illness , Omicron variant now even more so, yet people who have got omicron proclaim it's the vaccine that has saved them. I would wager they may have been same without it.

    I got the booster and regretted it. Don't see the benefit to me under 40. Omicron is spreading like mad anyway and everyone I speak to describes a cold.

    Anyone that questions the vaccine is "Anti-Vax" but this is nonsense. It's really getting to stage there is no clear policy from government largely as they are playing wait and see I guess. The vaccine efficacy itself is very short lived if top ups are needed after 10-12 weeks.

    I'd wind up this whole booster camping now and get ready to reopen everything. Doomsdaying about long Covid is just keeping it in news cycles.

    The vaccines have helped us greatly, but nature has taken over now and created a variant akin to a flu.

    My children are under 5 , if they weren't I wouldn't be vaccinating them as I can't see the benefit - adults get boosters , RNA vaccine wanes and omicron infection is like cold to kids. Unless something like Novavax shows long term efficacy I don't see point of continually jabbing younger age groups.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭orecir


    Lock this motherfucka down.


    Get jabs into kids arms and boosters for adults. Ventilate classrooms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,990 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Rarely a symptom with Omicron. I know quite a few isolating now and none had taste or smell issues. Only 1 had a cough - a slight dry cough.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All of which will do nothing to stop cases. Accept that COVID is going nowhere. Wind down testing and start acting like grown ups again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,241 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    That was the most “extreme” symptom I had, it was very minimal and taste etc all returned in a day or 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah there are definitely suggestions or that.

    Anecdotally from one case I know

    - Picked it up Xmas Day (nobody else there was positive but everyone has since tested +)

    - Symptoms started evening of 26th.

    - Positive antigen morning of 28th

    - Symptoms gone by evening of 30th

    - First negative antigen this morning.

    Obviously is going to continue to isolate, but feels 100% now. That's a week from catching it to being antigen negative, and very mild symptoms, all given.

    Fully boosted now to be fair, but also elderly and not in peak condition.

    A far cry from the early days where there was talk of 7 days flattened in bed and a month reeling from the recovery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,990 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I agree with a lot of that. I am due a booster now and expecting an appointment soon but I think I would rather catch omicron and develop a natural immunity. I do think we are in the end game now in terms of restrictions and the Covid vaccine will be given out regularly to whoever wants one - the over 50s will be strongly encouraged to get a booster before the winter months. We will all be encouraged to stay fit and healthy and get loads of sunshine (VitD).

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    If this was the right answer it would be the policy world wide.


    the fact the rest of Europe have taken the same steps as us shows that the expert advice is all leaning in the same way.

    not lockdown, but letting it rip isn’t a viable option.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    What’s the point in catching it to be immune to it?



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