Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Red Silurian · 31-12-2021 01:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394254#Comment_118394254

No curtains, just blinds, so jokes on you ha!

Plus the cops were there so it must have been very civilized

Red Silurian · 31-12-2021 01:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394222#Comment_118394222

Just on this, could we hold mass in a pub tomorrow night between 11 and 1 or am I clutching at straws?

cuttingtimber22 · 31-12-2021 02:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394351#Comment_118394351

You should perhaps see can we combine mass with a big match in Thomond Park. I think Wasps are coming to town soon.

Chivito550 · 31-12-2021 02:32AM

The last week really feels like a watershed moment. The game is almost up. The virus has found a way of defeating nonsensical restrictions, lockdowns, zero covid and other such tomfoolery. I'm sure it will be traumatic for those who have invested so much of their lives in defending these restrictions and cheerleading NPHET over the last two years. There's going to be a bit of a void.

Red Silurian · 31-12-2021 02:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394450#Comment_118394450

Now we're definitely clutching at straws, great idea though

cannonballTaffyOjones · 31-12-2021 02:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118393379#Comment_118393379

Disheartening ?

No, actually good news, it's mild and spreading fast amoung the population giving natural immunity - plus killing of Delta...

This is a way out of this...

Red Silurian · 31-12-2021 03:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118393379#Comment_118393379

20k cases today, just under 0.5% of our population per day, keep it up and we'll be at herd immunity in no time at all! Was our first vaccine rollout this fast?

Dempo1 · 31-12-2021 10:52AM

CMO out enforcing (his) message this morning, A few appearances on breakfast shows. Pushed on morning Ireland (a rare occurance indeed), to explain his and governments messages being somewhat at odds, he struggled, but I was more intrigued at his new found, epiphany about antigen testing and their importance. Of course I sensed him biting his lips as he spoke and I wondered is his new fondness for antigen testing something to do with the unavailability of PCR testing ???? 🤔🤔👀👀

Zebra3 · 31-12-2021 10:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394908#Comment_118394908

Wonder what his stock portfolio looks like.

Dempo1 · 31-12-2021 11:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394919#Comment_118394919

Whatever about stock portfolios, he's lost the dressing room I'm afraid. Messaging all over the place and predictably not a Government Minister out this morning.

Loafing Oaf · 31-12-2021 11:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394351#Comment_118394351

Floppybits · 31-12-2021 11:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394908#Comment_118394908

Was he asked why was he so opposed to them previously and why has he now changed?

the kelt · 31-12-2021 11:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394908#Comment_118394908

A little bit of Philip Nolans soul dies every time someone in the country does an antigen test!

Dempo1 · 31-12-2021 11:13AM

CMO claiming he's waiting on the full impact of Christmas celebrations 🙄 WTF is that all about, what Christmas celebrations exactly, he and other public health officials seem obsessed at the notion every second household in the nation had wild parties FFS, the most careful households I personally know had outbreaks, perhaps it was the Christmas crackers 👀🙄

Dempo1 · 31-12-2021 11:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394963#Comment_118394963

Curiously no, I suspect interviewer thought that might be a tetchy subject but in fairness the questioning was thouragh, a full 30 minutes, CMO must have been exhausted, hoping Stephen Donnelly might actually say something, anything, release a statement etc 😉

Funny how a month ago CMO gagged, and now he's left alone to comment whilst Government hide in their festive season bunkers

Dempo1 · 31-12-2021 11:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394531#Comment_118394531

I suspect 20k tip of the iceberg, even CMO reckoned it was more than 30k and other experts saying numbers far higher.

is_that_so · 31-12-2021 11:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394973#Comment_118394973

It's that 10-14 days to see the full impact of anything, the next two weeks we all love so well!

31-12-2021 11:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394531#Comment_118394531

More likely the case numbers are double that. With people going about their lives etc with symtoms we will be finished with covid very soon. Nphet lost the dressing room very early on.

Is it time to ditch masks yet?

31-12-2021 11:27AM

Tony Holohan released the following Tweet last night.

If this statistic happened to be true, and it may well be true, then Ireland is bucking a trend seen with Omicron everywhere else (at least in highly vaccinated countries + South Africa). How likely is that, that Omicron is harming Irish people - a highly vaccinated country - more than everywhere else?

Also, what does he mean by "asymptomatic, non-infectious"?

Patients who are found to be COVID-19 positive are moved to the required ward precisely because they are deemed infectious by definition. And furthermore, you could have many patients in hospital who develop extremely mild symptoms (headache, or just a runny nose) but who are nonetheless in the hospital for something else. It seems that he is defining "incidental" in very, very narrow terms.

Third, once the prevalence of infections in the community becomes so high, as in literally everywhere, it's inevitable that this prevalence will mirror itself in hospitals with a greater number of patients happening to carry the virus.

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1476631239616602119

Dempo1 · 31-12-2021 11:31AM

It will be some depressing sight in Pubs across the nation tonight ringing in the new year at 8pm as doors shut in people's faces 🙄

deholleboom · 31-12-2021 11:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395014#Comment_118395014

He is talking about less than 5% incidental in ICU AND Hospital. Strange that he would combine them and come up w that number. It does not seem right. Most currently in ICU have been there for quite a while and hospital patients have a high percentage of Omicron as it is spreading there as well as everywhere else. That less than 5% number should be examined. The UK have about 80% incidental. Every country is following the same trajectory and no reason to think Ireland is different..

Edit: i think i see it. He mentions 'incidental' as being non symptomatic and non infectious. So he doesnt count those inpatients who get Omicron in hospital and get symptoms even though they ARE incidental as those patients are there for other reasons than Covid. Typical Holohan move probably not picked up by the media..

Floppybits · 31-12-2021 11:50AM

After 2 days of having sinus infection like symptoms, I wake up this morning and no symptoms. If I hadn't of taken that antigen test yesterday I would be thinking it was just a sinus infection and now I'm grand. It seems to be complete madness to be making this much fuss over something that appears so mild. Before anyone goes on about underlying conditions I have asthma and problems with breathing and covid hasn't had any impact on that.

freshpopcorn · 31-12-2021 11:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395037#Comment_118395037

Might be a lot of happy house parties tough and lock ins.

Floppybits · 31-12-2021 11:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395130#Comment_118395130

What was it one of the MP's in England said about having covid parties? Looks like this is going to happen.

nullzero · 31-12-2021 11:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395014#Comment_118395014

Seems likely this type of statement from the CMO is leading to one particular outcome in the coming days, in my opinion.

nullzero · 31-12-2021 11:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394908#Comment_118394908

The unavailability of masks at the beginning of the pandemic had them saying that masks were unlikely to make a difference in stopping transmission. It seems the ability to cut your cloth to measure is a pre requisite when bluffing your way through this type of situation.

Stormyteacup · 31-12-2021 11:59AM

Is it time to revisit the Covid measures in hospitals? Is there a possibility of them being relaxed, even in some small ways, to allow for non-covid backlogs to begin to be caught up.

If healthcare staff are under a ‘derogation’ to minimise absenteeism and if the virus currently is showing stats similar to an influenza virus, maybe hospitals can begin to relax measures that result in limiting the treatment of non-covid illness?

If these trends continue, it should be a priority imo, the stranglehold on healthcare provision has gone on long enough and we are in the realm of diminishing returns.

Wolf359f · 31-12-2021 12:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395086#Comment_118395086

non symptomatic and non infectious

it's a weird phrase, but one group that comes to mind would be someone who tested positive say 2 weeks ago, didn't need treatment for covid, but 2 weeks later needed an overnight stay in hospital.

No symptoms but a PCR test on admission could show them being positive, which would be the previous infection.

They would have no symptoms and not be infectious.

cannonballTaffyOjones · 31-12-2021 12:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395006#Comment_118395006

I was browsing on reddit earlier on /r/Ireland ... my God it's depressing the sentiment over there, people want kids wearing masks outside all day, I do wonder if they are trolling ...

_Kaiser_ · 31-12-2021 12:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118395148#Comment_118395148

The problem with a(nother) lockdown this time is that the word is out on Omicron. With so many "infected" and with little to no real symptoms, the realisation is out there that it's little more than a cold for the vast majority. Remember those? Remember how we just stocked up on Lemsip and tissues for a few days and got on with it? It's back! :)

What Holohan is at is akin to that end scene in Team America where Alec Baldwin splutters meaningless buzzwords to a room that is already lost.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings