Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Anybody who responds to a proposed 5pm closing time with "no it should be 7/8/9pm" is a moron who is probably too stupid to breathe.

Don't argue the details, argue the premise itself.

Like I said, they are whores, haggling the price rather than rejecting the very suggestion.

Thanks for the laugh in these dark times.

Can’t believe the negative reaction this is getting. The Omnicron variant is not necessarily milder than Delta according to the latest data from London (https://www.ft.com/content/020534b3-5a54-4517-9fd1-167a5db50786). It is also way more transmissible and spreading rapidly. This has the potential to be extremely serious and worse than the Delta wave.

All I see on here are people worried about getting an extra pint over Christmas and full of conspiracy theories. If we want to stop this thing we need to lockdown tight and do it quickly. Today ideally not Monday. We are nowhere need the 2km/5km restrictions that were imposed previously. Personally, I’d like a circuit breaker for several weeks with stricter lockdown, closing pubs at 5pm is not enough.

London say it's not milder, South Africa say it is milder. If situations were reversed would you be saying the Saffers are right?

What an impressive amount of dribble.

Prove you wrong? That if SF were in government since February 2020 that they would have increased ICU capacity to the level that it could withstand The Omicron wave which is putting countries with much greater capacity than ours, such as Germany, under pressure to the extent they are introducing restrictions.

The only proven benefit that Sinn Fein policies have made to healthcare is making the Royal hospital in Belfast the world leader in Knee reconstructive surgery.

Must have graduated from the Pip Nolan school of modelling.

1/15th of entire population infected in one day? Lol good luck

For all that people talk about Nazi Germany and all the lessons there are to be learned from it, many people fail to realise what that lesson actually is: YOU are the Nazi.

The chances that any individual who lived in that place at that time would have been hiding Anne Frank in their attic or making lists with Schindler is infinitesimally small. Even if they weren't turning the taps on at gas chambers, the vast majority would have been quiet and followed along with what was going on, turned a blind eye, failed to object or to act out of cowardice and/or fear.

But it's an incredibly difficult and psychologically painful thing to reckon with, and the conclusions are terrible in practice because they mean that you must be courageous in the face of difficult and sometimes deadly opposition. So people, generally, don't.

And then history repeats itself.

I don't think we're anywhere near any of the tragic and abominable historical events that could be pointed to as stark warning against authoritarian creep, for what it's worth. But I do think there has been a lot of authoritarian creep and a lot of people could do with evaluating how they've held to their 2019-and-prior principles these last couple of years.

What’s the alternative just let it loose and see what happens? At the very least we need to assess the situation and see just how bad this new variant is, if it’s mild that’s fine (possibly even a good thing) but we just don’t know.

The government has explicitly said there will be supports in place and the PUP is back along with wage support etc.

I don't know who needs to hear this but you can't stop an airborne virus with an R value of 3-5 by leaving the pub early.