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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭PicardWithHair


    The first country to have fans back are also the first to ban them..

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59522276



  • Posts: 821 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Why don't we apply the same logic to other preventable diseases - smokers, obesity etc. which I would guess take up more resources than CV-19 patients. This argument that unvaccinated people are taking up beds in ICU is a red herring. It ignores the fact that there are also people in ICU who are vaccinated. ICU is always at capacity, if there was no such things CV-19 ICU would still be busy as they have always been. What we are seeing now is nothing new.

    Also, why is it that we are told that the vaccinated in ICU have underlying conditions but no info as to whether the unvaxed have underlying conditions? The reality is that irrespective of variants or vaccines, the profile of seriously ill CV-19 patients are the elderly and those with comorbidities and or obesity. This suggests that those in ICU with/from CV-19 are probably too old, infirm, comorbid or obese to receive a vaccine because the alternative would suggest that we have unvaxed 80 year olds in ICU with CV-19 because they refused to take a vaccine from reading "disinformation" online.



  • Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is obesity/COPD infectious? Also, if you were too old/infirm to receive covid vaccine, you certainly wouldn't be admitted to an ICU ward RE: ceiling of care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    How are you going to do a study on how a booster will work against future variants Timmy, which ones exactly ?

    How on earth is a study conducted from the 1st of June to 30th of June in a country that is 99.9% Delta going to evaluate a report on anything else ? You can only do a large scale study on what you can actually study.

    The whole world is gripped by Delta at the moment and boosters are being given against that, what is the point in doing a study for Alpha and Beta exactly ?

    Can you imagine how much work and people were involved in doing something like that and sharing it also. Honestly if it was me doing it i would keep it to myself and say **** em, let them do it themselves.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,081 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    It also says booster wasn't need as the previous baseline is protecting against severe illness and death.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,081 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    When you look at Americans, maybe obesity is infectious :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,985 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Poor Leo, what was that he said on Thursday, I'm very Sceptical more restrictions will be needed 🙄 must be feeling quite the Gobshyte tonight, every time he opens his mouth, things go from bad to worse almost immediately

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    I don’t like Leo, but I’ll admit he’s a very savvy operator, he doesn’t say things by accident! He knows what he’s doing and is thinking of himself and himself only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Savvy🤔, surely you mean arrogant , he clearly didn't know what he was doing only 48 hours ago . But I get your over all point 😒

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,231 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    At this stage I can't stand Holohan for 2 years he has been preaching never-ending doomsday scenarios that have not materialised, yet doing little to improve the actual infrastructure (ICU capacity) - every week its doomsday, holdfirm , 2 years of this .

    90% of us are fully vaccinated, no one I believe has died from this mutant variant, and ther is indications that virus is actually weakening, hospital cases are down, numbers are plateauing , yet we are at another doomsday crisis , more media leaks, to an already over anxious depressed Irish public - What about our mental health ?

    What about living and socialising a little .

    Superman leaks more holdfirm holdfirm doomsday numbers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,040 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I'm amazed that people think this will go on for as long as that. It'll burn out way before this forecast ^^^

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Sprints, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar, The Scratch

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,194 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    NPHETS recommendations accepted

    F**K this government




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 seaniewicklow


    Is the recommendations just pubs close 30 mins earlier and the house hold restrictions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Amazing! First we have a virus that can tell the time and count how many people are sitting at a table, now it can tell what day of the week it is. That’s the “science” for ya!



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Absolutely sickeningly disgusting.

    Michael Martin loves these "Addresses to the Nation". Loves the limelight and the national focus all on him, in what is a very finite premiership for him anyway.

    It's a disgrace!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,985 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Micheal up on RTE now.

    Already coming across in a very condescending way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Ahh, here comes Ireland’s biggest gobshite on our equivalent of China State News.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Sickening. I can barely look at him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Night clubs gone

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Gyms , covid certs , its OK if your getting a cut and blow dry 🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 11,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    "CMO and Public Health experts" havent a **** clue. I thought the kids were at fault - its now gyms, leisure centres, hotels etc.


    Covid pass to have a piss in a few weeks!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,985 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Now he's condescending the kids as well.

    He really has some neck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭Quags




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 11,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,194 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Very light positive is that Pubs remain open but overall a farce

    No way will these be lifted in January



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,199 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    If he says we're in this together, I'll vomit profusely

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,985 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Put on the green jersey and do what you're told essentially



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Very impressive speech. Time for us all to knuckle down again as a nation.



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