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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    “Comply”. Such sinister language being used regarding children.



  • Posts: 243 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I assume a high court challenge to such a scenario would bring this to a head legally



  • Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good lad Pat 😂 🤣

    They really do think they are the elite and this country should be run according to their whims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,803 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    And government. They are the ones ultimately responsible for increasing restrictions.



  • Posts: 389 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not one challenge from any politician about this nonsense.

    I really hope parents do some sort of push back on this, if schools are that unsafe then they shouldn't be there in the first place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,803 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    We have a dysfunctional political system in Ireland. The opposition are in lock-step with government and NPHET on this and in fact have often called for more restrictions over and above what we have had to deal with for the last 21 months.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If Covid disappeared we could all start feeling better.


    Or even if NPHET disappeared, I think my mood would improve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Children are tougher than you think and trying to make them soft and weak isn't a help either.


    I suspect that the children of this period will be far more resilient and strong for this.


    Perspective and experience in life are important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,954 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Every single schools code of conduct will say comply or compliance at least a dozen times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭celt262


    People need to switch off from the scare mongering media and get on with things.

    There is an unhealthy obsession on these threads of people listening to the media just so they can jump on here and give out about what has been said.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The Helen Lovejoy effect is more contagious here than Omicron.



  • Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You're right but unfortunately in Ireland our politicians seem to govern by what is deemed popular, usually from the media and to a smaller extent certain social media figures. (Note: Boards.ie has zero influence on this 🙂 )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so



    True but some in the media have their own obsessions and it is also how very large numbers of people get their information and some positions on COVID. They have been pretty poor at times, everywhere, not just here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭aziz


    I’m only waiting for some schools not to miss a trick and like what they do with uniforms, the child can only wear a mask with the school crest on it ,which they probably sell for a fiver a pop



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    If NPHET disappeared, we would all feel far better I suspect.

    I think many people have resigend themselves to the fact that covid isn't going away.The fear of what mad ideas might come into NPHET's head is becoming greater than the fear of covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    some brilliant new restrictions from the government yesterday with apparently more restrictions to be sought from NPHET on Thursday

    "Christmas travel plans have been thrown into doubt after the Government introduced strict new rules for international travel.

    Tens of thousands of people planning to travel to Ireland over the coming weeks will have to ensure they have a negative Covid-19 test before they leave their country of origin, even if they are vaccinated.

    The new rules could leave fully vaccinated passengers stranded in countries to which they travelled if they cannot produce a negative Covid-19 test before returning home.

    The Cabinet agreed to review the restrictions after two weeks, but a senior government source said they expected the rules to be place all the way up to Christmas.

    “I can’t see us learning enough about Omicron that would reassure us in two or three weeks,” they said.

    The Cabinet was briefed on positive indicators on the spread of the virus but was warned that Nphet is likely to recommend more restrictions when it meets tomorrow.

    The travel restrictions announced yesterday are among the strictest in Europe, with only Portugal introducing a similar regime. Nphet wanted incoming passengers to be required to produce a negative PCR test taken within the 72 hours before they arrived in Ireland.

    However, the Government instead decided to also permit passengers to produce a negative antigen test taken within the 48 hours before their arrival.

    Antigen tests must be administered professionally and cannot be home test kits.

    Passengers coming into the country who refuse to produce a negative test may face fines, a Government spokesperson said. Some may even face imprisonment as a last resort if they refuse to comply with the new international travel rules.

    The Government is also examining possible fines for carriers that do not conduct proper pre-flight checks of passengers to ensure they have their test results.

    On arrival in Ireland, there will be “spot checks” by border management units and immigration gardaí. Passengers without a test result or without the correct test will have to quarantine at home and immediately get a PCR test.

    Officials were last night drafting new legislation to underpin the travel restrictions for passengers.


    This in a country where the new variant is probably here already, the government or any scientists don't know enough about it, the desease is ahead of NPHET predictions yet we have more new restrictions coming in all the time

    government also look to reintroduce emergency powers up to March but can be extended until June next year

    No doubt they will end up further extending for the whole of next year as well



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perhaps some will.

    But others may grow up fearing removing their mask. Fearing groups of people. Not able to interact well. Terrified of germs etc.

    PTSD may become a huge issue after this pandemic for all people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭The Nu man in town


    Trouble is you can't "get on with things" if you are involved in health services, education, hospitality or aviation, to name the obvious ones.

    Anybody involved in the above, and others, needs to be dealing with this in many different ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    They'll probably recommend the extension of the vaccine cert again which has been knocked back twice in the last 10 days by government.

    Apart from that, there doesn't seem to be any political will to change anything else for the next 2 weeks until more is known regarding Omicron.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    People need to turn off the news if they can't deal with the reality of a pandemic. Coming on here it's almost unreadable with every second post about Pat Kenny, Claire Byrne or the latest media headline etc... Turn the TV/Radio/social media off and go for a walk for goodness sake.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    we're one of the few countries in Europe where masks aren't work in schools

    There's little to no logical reason why it cant be done or at least trialed to see, our children aren't all that different to those in other countries really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Well it seems to be gyms and hairdressers on the list so no surprise they will push back. Anything that even looks remotely like a lockdown proposal is not going to to be a runner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,333 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Ypu mean those other EU countries that are seeing a risk in infection as well?

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Just a reminder as we enter the dreaded month of December that the projected 200K in new cases is an average of about 6.5K a day and 400K is close to 13K a day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    I've written to my TD to object to these new rules. I know nothing will come of it, but it's all I can do really. I'm not going to march in protests as those events are usually hijacked by right wing nut jobs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭shamco


    Yes but the public are ahead of us😀🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,117 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I suspect that the children of this period will be far more resilient and strong for this

    I'd suspect the very opposite, certainly so when they are afraid of something that is not dangerous to them.

    Resilliance is built, when people face crisis without fear.

    What's actually happening could not be further from resilience



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    What were they predicting in respect to hospitalisations and ICU. Surely these are far more important metrics with vaccination coverage and the booster programme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    I dont know whats right wing and whats liberal anymore. Making children wear masks would be right wing to me. It's all very muddled now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    You might be right but there is a definite creep in more restrictions being added all the time



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