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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,878 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Maybe it is actually is doomsday - you and I are in agreement. That surely must herald the freezing over of hell. :D

    I'm going to disconnect myself from all of the fun of last night. There's always a chaotic period when these things come out and the outcome rarely matches the predictions that are made early on.

    Just gonna keep watching the numbers for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,878 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    You can't claim the Covid Enhanced Illness Benefit without proof of Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    The confusion is arising because 

    I'm not confused, the authors of the paper from the trial say in the paper that the sample size of those receiving the treatment is not enough to detect prevalence/risk of myocarditis. As you know, there are already signals in the population showing that myocarditis is a risk, especially for younger males. The reason for this is unknown. Before somebody trots out "the risk from COVID-19 is higher", this is also unknown for this 5-11 cohort.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    We'll probably be protected by proxy. From what I can tell there are no direct flights from ZA to Ireland, they all have to go through the UK, EU or Dubai. The first two are imposing restrictions, and I suspect the latter will follow.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Michael Martin can use last February's speech again about "were effectively dealing with a new virus" ect ect. He just needs to change the word vaccine with booster and it'll work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭CutieD


    Terrible advice and goes against the public health advice.


    The public health advice is to isolate and test. Why would someone not want to know whether they have it or not?



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Clarity:

    This is a varient of concern. Not a varient of all out panic. Relax. See what happens and remember that we have 93 per cent vaccination rate and a booster roll out well underway. We'll be ok.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,995 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    That fella Feidl-Ding is having a field day on Twitter. Big “BREAKING NEWS 🚨” posts about the Hong Kong case but failing to see the words “asymptomatic” wrote in the middle 🤦‍♂️ We know absolutely nothing about the impacts of this virus. While he suggests it’s the end of civilisation as we know it, other scientists seem to be questioning if the variant’s excessive mutations may in fact be it’s downfall. Something about excess mutations not binding to ACE2 receptors. I don’t know enough to even suggest if this is true, so all we can do is wait and see rather than sh*t the bed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,646 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Wonder if this variant with all its mutations, while being more transmissible than Delta is less severe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    He's the biggest bellend on Twitter. Complete arsehole. Some may defend him and say he is "just reporting the facts", but the dramatic language and hyperbole with which he does lends one to believe he has a clickbait agenda



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    I provided the trial data to the boards moderator of this thread submitted by Pfizer to the FDA with all the facts, including page 6 related to the fact they’ve no information re myocarditis gathered. I was told I’m not allowed to discuss such data as it’s not in this jurisdiction, we are under the EMA. I would assume you must follow these rules also?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Bot1


    I hope dragging us all back in to the office to have remote meetings for the last few weeks was worth it!

    Not to mind opening the bloody night clubs.

    Now the kids have to cancel their playdates and the Christmas panto.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    571 in hospital this AM. And today tends to be the big discharge today. With any luck we'll come out of the weekend still with less than 600 in hospital, but I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.

    What we do know right now is that NPHET's previous models are already destroyed. In terms of cases, we are absolutely at the extreme lower fringe of the confidence interval. In other words, not completely outside the model, but nearly. And we will be, because the model calls from case increases for the next few days.

    In terms of hospital, we are completely below the optimistic scenario. This has really a really tight CI (indicating a higher level of assuredness about the model), and predicted at least 750 in hospital today, but closer to 850.

    ICU as usual is less confidence-filling, but we're still at the lower CI bound. The model expected ICU to have 150 give or take 25 at this point.

    They're due to release new models today. I wonder will they soften their cough on it? They've very much lost the room, there's widespread derision over their request that we all implement kiddie coccooning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,995 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The kids have to cancel playdates because they’re not vaccinated and the virus spreads like wildfire in groups. Plus there’s no tracing in schools. But blame the offices and hospitality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    Teacher just informed me our child's Christmas play is cancelled WTF. There will be 50,000 adults at a match this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,532 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Was the Christmas play going to be on outdoors?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,100 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    What they often don't specify is what trial the size should be (and why based on good trial practice) or back track when those criteria are met.

    You do of course know that the risk of severe myocarditis is much higher when exposed to the virus vs. the vaccine. I'm guessing by your post that you got caught posting misinformation and got a warning for it and now being disingenuous as to why you aren't referring to that trial data.

    But of course your question was where I got those numbers, when it turned out you had them all the time, so, yea, more lying.

    And answering none of the other questions and calling the parents of the 2.6M vaccinated children in the State disgusting with nothing to back it up as usual.

    Quick, deflect to something else randomly!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    You should ring the British scientists and tell them they are over reacting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,295 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    And will these models be questioned by our media and "journalists"? Me thinks not. NPHET read from the pulpit and the mob listens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    its a religion now! NPHET has got a cult following and it’s spurred on by the majority of MSM



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd imagine with the hysteria in the media last night and this morning that once we have a confirmed case we will be looking at a hospitality closure again. Watch this space. Madness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    My word . How can they be so wrong so quick. Its like Groundhog Day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,213 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    In fairness much of the hysteria here has been coming from yourself. Mist are just getting on with life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    These 2 Israeli cases that flew to Malawi were fully vaxed which suggests they must of had the booster also or they could not travel.


    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Twitter should ban that fool Ding! Alarmist as always! Poor Fecker must be bricking it!



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably not but we have 93 percent of the population vaccinated and we know that children really aren't vulnerable. So this is just NPHET losing the plot completely. Can't target the adults anymore? Target the kids seems to be the next step. Nothing below them it would seem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Something does not seem right. South Africa announce a new variant and then magically Israel and Hong Kong just come out and say they have found cases of it. Bit of a coincidence like

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    No it was indoors. Its a small rural village, would have been 50 people max in the community hall. Masks and Certs.



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