Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Wait so is it true

1 person in ICU who is fully vaccinated and does not have an underlying condition ?

I wonder what age is this person

This exchange with your colleague says more about you than about him, I feel

98%... I don't doubt you, but where did you see that. That's nearly double the amount that Israel and UAE experienced. Which means it's not vaccine waining that's causing ICU to fill up here, it's people that haven't received their 3rd jab (not a booster) and obviously the unvaccinated people.

The 3rd jab has been rolled out well over a month ago, so hopefully we start seeing an impact. Technically we should see a higher % unvaccinated in ICU going forward.

Unlike if the UNJABBED have had COVID and have some natural immunity (and also possibly younger), particularly as we are at 93% of those over 18, which will possible reach 95% by mid-December. Unless you decided that those who are 6 months passed their initial jabs are now unjabbed.

What a shambles. Goverment have buried their heads in the sand since september and now we are paying dearly for their failures.

Nphet are all over the place. Their constant lies about schools, farcical models and poorly thought out virus control measures have seriously damaged their credibility.

Why on earth did they open nightclubs with no mitigation measures? Stevie wonder could have seen it was going to be a shitshow.

The sheer incompetence and lack of leadership of it all does little to inspire confidence.

Since they failed to put in any real mitigation measures in place in society -ventilation, ffp2 masks, antigen - Our only hope at this stage is the boosters. They seem to be **** that up as well though - no surprise there.

So ultimately it's looking like another lockdown. While some of the ones in the past were warranted and necessary, this one coming definitely could have been avoided.

As Albert said; 'Were doing the same things over and over again expecting different results'

Insanity.

There was, but I'm sure due to the refreshed requirement for people to not attend the office, it may of changed

Head of one of the hospitals on Claire Byrne this morning. May have been referring to their own hospital, but it matches with the HPSC data on ICU admissions between April and November

In other words, just 4 healthy, fully vaccinated people were admitted to ICU between April and November out of some 2.7m or so*. So to go back to the question of, "Why don't people seem to be as concerned about Covid anymore"; this is is the answer.

One of the other fun things I learned today is that "immunocompromised" and "underlying medical conditions" are often used interchangeably in reports. Often they don't actually test to see if someone is immunocompromised, but rather they will assume they are based on their existing medical conditions and medication. Which seems obvious now that I think about it.

*IIRC the # of vulnerable/underlying conditions people was estimated way back at ~1m.

We won’t be given a breakdown of that data because we are not allowed to acknowledge that some people have had bad reactions to the vaccines.

Just shows the vaccines are still highly effective vs serious illness.

You have to remember immunocompromised people are left out of trials for obvious reasons. We all know the South African AZ conclusion being skewed massively by seeing a high number of breakthrough infections in HIV people.

Tony still against antigen tests. His advice is not to use them.

200,000 figure is a fraction of the population.

I doubt this will scare people.

Tonys motto is a negative test isnt a negative test....so what is it?

I think if they are not going to proceed with winding NPHET down as they promised, then they need to refresh the faces. We are all sick of Tony and his grim mug every day & that spoofer Nolan should have been ejected out on his arse after his "snake oil" comments, and double after his fisher price crystal ball projections delayed the reopening earlier in the year for nothing.