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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,193 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    I thought it was 24,000 for semis and 40,000 for finals….Could be wrong though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    When all adults who want a vaccination have on there is no other choice but to open up fully like the UK did


    If we dont well then when do we ? Never ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983



    Apparently according to Paul Reid this morning it is now nearly 76% who are FULLY vaccinated….What are we waiting for????!!! I am not suggesting full UK opening but surely a bit closer than we are…..

    Are they even getting the figures correct??! 75% done….Great if true…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    No you're right. Some reporting made it seem like both or I just misread it!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Tony believes we can get higher, also he was very concerned this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so



    76% of adults fully and 87% part vaccinated and 10K done in walk-ins yesterday. Also - 12-15s registration in the next two weeks say the HSE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,173 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Are we coming out of the right side and we know lockdowns simply won't work again ?

    Talk of Variants has slowed down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    That's 76% of adults. But only something like 60% of population. We have a huge population of under 16s and the Delta variant will most likely spread through them like wildfire when they get together again. There is a reason there are no indoor summer camps or indoor play areas open this summer, unlike last year. And it's not because NPHET hate kids or want to screw over small businesses. When schools reopen in September it's really very likely that Delta will spread so much that breakthrough cases in vaccinated adults increase. And we could see too many serious cases in the elderly and vulnerable, who were vaccinated 6-8 months before as their weaker immune systems mean lower vaccine efficacy against this strain. Nobody with good sense would think it was ok to reopen more places before we see what happens when schools open, as we head into winter. None of us enjoy having to wait and see, but we have to wait and see. Realistically the models show that we may need 90% uptake of vaccines across the entire population. That means kids as well as adults. So it's really very likely that we need to wait until the vaccine is approved for 5-12 year olds of even 2-12 year olds and then given to them before we can actually, safely reopen properly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    And the good news vibe lasted less than an hour! There is no shock to anyone except you, who it seems is surprised the data is about over 16s. 12-15 seems to be about 270K and there is no consensus on what will be done about the under 12s. They are also the group least affected by COVD by far and viruses ripping through that age group is perfectly normal.

    Serious cases are very low, so hard to see where your huge numbers are going to come from.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,648 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Certain people thrive on the doom and gloom, that’s why the good news vibe doesn’t last on these threads. The misinformation on these threads and making things as facts is hilarious .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,455 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Absolutely fantastic to see young people queueing at vaccinating centres . Well done to them and to all involved



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Such a pathetic number . Surely at the end of August let it be a full house after the last 18 months


    It would be great .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,173 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Is it 24000 per semi final or between ie 12000 a semi final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭dubdaymo


    "The Models"?, LOL. You mean the quack fortuneteller with his crystal ball going under the pompous title of "chairman of the Governments’ Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group".

    Extraordinary that anyone can believe they have the power to foretell the future but even more extraordinary that some people believe the nonsense they come up with.

    Micheál and Stephen are probably the last two holding out in awe. The rest have had enough. The "snake oil" statement (that belittled the other EU and equivalent CMO's) was the straw that broke the camel's back and finally proved that egomania was in play here...something that some of us here already knew.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭dubdaymo


    double post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983



    Fair enough on what you say….I agree and disagree on some points…If what you say is correct then time to stop saying 76% fully vaccinated as it is somewhat misleading/not really relevant….If what you say is correct then we are only 60% and government should say so…Can’t have it both ways shall we say…



  • Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Now you're getting it. Maybe the penny will drop... eventually.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    For those who care - 1098 new cases, 163 in hospital and 26 in ICU. All very stable looking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    I seem to remember the mythical herd immunity would be achieved around the 60% mark, now it’s 90+ never ending this shîte, protect the vulnerable surely they’re done now.

    I can see a VOC emerge over the coming weeks and months that surprise surprise is more dangerous to children , and round and round we go.

    holdfirm, in this together, the new normal, this is us.. makes me want to puke.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 sgsdfsdfsd


    Well done? Really? They went and got a vaccine which is pretty much their moral duty as much as anyone else. And plenty others not paying any attention to public health measures compared to older people. But boo hoo, they've "lost" a year and a half. They have plenty more years to look forward to compared to plenty of older folks who might never get to do some things they might have planned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I hope they never put you in charge of the under 9s! Moral duty mar dhea!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    No need for the aggressive tone and language.

    If you don't understand someone's post there are polite ways to ask but given your posting history I can see this apoears to be your style.

    Am happy to explain further if you ask nicely... Otherwise you can ..... ....

    Do you understand that?

    Post edited by Goldengirl on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Good for them.

    Their IT systems and data management are better funded and better staffed.

    Having worked there in the past and returned to a post here I remember noting the Irish system was at least 20 years behind

    Not in care or treatment just management, and data provision and gathering

    There is a lot that needs improvement for sure, but unfortunately playing catch up everywhere atm so it is down the list of priorities.

    AsI said those numbers will be available in more detail, probably at the end of all this though which is not good.

    Also they have been stressing for months now that the link between hospitalisation and deaths has been weakened, not broken as was thought initially, because of Delta.

    Also in house infections were 14 at last weeks HSE briefing.. Out of 160.

    So yes those figures at least have been and are being announced.. No misinformation or misleading there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    Jeez. I wouldn’t wish your mindset on anyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    I was in town for the first time in a long time and my first thought passing restaurants with outdoor dining was alot of chairs were back-to-back. So people seated very close to each other. Made me think is this a contributing factor to the increase of cases lately?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    They are taking time out of their day to get a vaccine they don’t need for a virus that does not effect them. Fair play to all of them. And as I have said before it seems the old and vulnerable are very ungrateful for the sacrifices these young people have taken over the past year and a half including taking a vaccine that they do not need



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    While I disagree with you on their " need " to get a vaccine , I agree on the sentiment . Fair play to them , they have had a sxxt year and a half , along with the rest of us , mind , but I think it is hard to be young and be so restricted .

    This is or will be a way out of that for most of them though .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,455 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I am old , over 65 . I still have time to say well done to the young people who queued . We all know that the vaccine numbers dropped in every country the younger the cohort . I am proud of the young people who are civic minded and doing this for us all

    Post edited by iamwhoiam on


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