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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #3542
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    No one mentioned a free for all , but some restrictions have to be lifted because there are many people now struggling to pay rent and mortages .People need hospital appointments , need to get shoes for the children and clothes for their children .I struggled yesterday to find wellies for my grandchild for example .

    Well we can agree on that alright. I’m out of work as well. But if we have high levels of covid the economy will suffer. The only way forwards is suppression.

    Although our medical appointments seem to be going along fine.


  • #3543
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    No one mentioned a free for all , but some restrictions have to be lifted because there are many people now struggling to pay rent and mortages .People need hospital appointments , need to get shoes for the children and clothes for their children .I struggled yesterday to find wellies for my grandchild for example .

    Isn't it strange to see someone so concerned about their perception of selfishness in others that they are blinded to their own. Restrictions till i' m vaccinated indeed.


  • #3544
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,541 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Rambling Man wrote: »
    Statistically it is improving alright, just seems to be going on forever.

    Swabs have been bumpy, people forget the low days but freak out with the high days! Certainly a rollercoaster!


  • #3545
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    The Government has set a target of 84,166 Covid vaccines to be administered next week.

    As part of a daily briefing to ministers on the vaccine roll-out from the Department of Health, Cabinet members were told this morning that this will include:
    - 11,500 for those in long term residential care, including 500 first doses
    - 25,666 frontline health workers
    - 37,000 people aged over 70 (with the 80-84 cohort next)
    - 10,000 with underlying health conditions.


  • #3546
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fits wrote: »
    Well we can agree on that alright. I’m out of work as well. But if we have high levels of covid the economy will suffer. The only way forwards is suppression.

    Although our medical appointments seem to be going along fine.

    As for all those procedures pushed back months?


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  • #3547
    pauldry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,515 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Surely 2021 cases are going to set a new pb next Monday or Tuesday


  • #3548
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Vaccinating 10,000 with underlying conditions next week. Does that mean they'll start that group at age 69 and work downward?


  • #3549
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    fits wrote: »
    Well we can agree on that alright. I’m out of work as well. But if we have high levels of covid the economy will suffer. The only way forwards is suppression.

    Although our medical appointments seem to be going along fine.

    If we have high levels of restrictions the economy will suffer. it is suffering already.

    Suppression is not the way forward, vaccination and relaxing restrictions is the way forward. Your own cowardice about catching covid should not dictate our policy. After all, its about "the greater good"


  • #3550
    SeaMermaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭SeaMermaid


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    No one mentioned a free for all , but some restrictions have to be lifted because there are many people now struggling to pay rent and mortages .People need hospital appointments , need to get shoes for the children and clothes for their children .I struggled yesterday to find wellies for my grandchild for example .

    Level 5 is 5hit and we can't stay here forever in level 5 but also opening up from an average daily case number of approx 500, will see cases rise again and more infections.

    Something that could work would be regional lockdowns. Ireland could perhaps open to a level 3 with retail and outdoor hospitality and some other easing too like golf or hairdressings. Lift the 5km but allow travel within ones county unless for work reasons. If county cases rise or large clusters or outbreaks occur in a county, lock it down to a level 5. Something like that would bring a balance and get people working together to keep the levels of virus down in communities.


  • #3551
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    fits wrote: »
    Well we can agree on that alright. I’m out of work as well. But if we have high levels of covid the economy will suffer. The only way forwards is suppression.

    Although our medical appointments seem to be going along fine.

    Our medical appointments are not going along fine .I have three family members who should attend a clinic 6 monthly who havent been for over a year.That includes a toddler who should have been followed up in January and is still waiting to hear from the clinic


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  • #3552
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    SeaMermaid wrote: »
    Level 5 is 5hit and we can't stay here forever in level 5 but also opening up from an average daily case number of approx 500, will see cases rise again and more infections.

    Something that could work would be regional lockdowns. Ireland could perhaps open to a level 3 with retail and outdoor hospitality and some other easing too like golf or hairdressings. Lift the 5km but allow travel within ones county unless for work reasons. If county cases rise or large clusters or outbreaks occur in a county, lock it down to a level 5. Something like that would bring a balance and get people working together to keep the levels of virus down in communities.

    I personally think it should be starting now . First click and collect opened so that when retail opens there is not a huge rush on shops .If they dont open click and collect soon the pent up need to rush to shops will happen again

    Shoe shops must open and easily done with one out one in . My daughter had to borrow shoes for her toddler which is absolutely ridiculous now

    Own county travel has to open and allow people the freedom to choose where they enjoy to walk or simply sit and enjoy

    Back garden visits with only one other family needs to be allowed and so many people are really struggling this time and need some interaction .


  • #3553
    Klonker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    marno21 wrote: »
    We are going down a dangerous road here is this level of “leadership” continues.

    https://twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1367852789422989319?s=21

    Is any other countries government dictated to by their public health officials as it is here? I highly doubt it.


  • #3554
    Probes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I personally think it should be starting now . First click and collect opened so that when retail opens there is not a huge rush on shops .If they dont open click and collect soon the pent up need to rush to shops will happen again

    Shoe shops must open and easily done with one out one in . My daughter had to borrow shoes for her toddler which is absolutely ridiculous now

    Own county travel has to open and allow people the freedom to choose where they enjoy to walk or simply sit and enjoy

    Back garden visits with only one other family needs to be allowed and so many people are really struggling this time and need some interaction .

    Why borrow shoes? Shoes are readily available, just order them online.


  • #3555
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,627 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    marno21 wrote: »
    We are going down a dangerous road here is this level of “leadership” continues.

    https://twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1367852789422989319?s=21

    Typical play. They'll turn around near the start of April and said "We fought for you against the evil NEPHT and we can open construction again"


  • #3556
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Probes wrote: »
    Why borrow shoes? Shoes are readily available, just order them online.

    First shoes for a baby with tiny feet .,It had to be Clarks and their delivery time is so slow .She borrowed them until they arrived as the child needed to walk ! Also had to figure out how to measure her feet to get the right size because no one is measuring kids feet


  • #3557
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Probes wrote: »
    Why borrow shoes? Shoes are readily available, just order them online.

    My wife works for a well known shoe retailer, apparently first shoes for a child are important. Feet needs to be measured. Strangely it's difficult to do this online, who knew.


  • #3558
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,295 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Probes wrote: »
    Why borrow shoes? Shoes are readily available, just order them online.

    Do we take it you don't have experience with children and their shoe requirements?


  • #3559
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Vaccinating 10,000 with underlying conditions next week. Does that mean they'll start that group at age 69 and work downward?


    Is that Group 4 or Group 7?

    Both are for those with underlying conditions

    I'm guessing it's 4


  • #3560
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    First shoes for a baby with tiny feet .,It had to be Clarks and their delivery time is so slow .She borrowed them until they arrived as the child needed to walk ! Also had to figure out how to measure her feet to get the right size because no one is measuring kids feet

    Try Kripps or tiptoptoes for advice. Don’t have to be Clark’s tbh. My children have never had Clark’s.


  • #3561
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Our medical appointments are not going along fine .I have three family members who should attend a clinic 6 monthly who havent been for over a year.That includes a toddler who should have been followed up in January and is still waiting to hear from the clinic

    I meant our own family ones not the whole country. Of course I know there are issues. But the route out of this is with low levels of covid not high.


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  • #3562
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    timmyntc wrote: »
    If we have high levels of restrictions the economy will suffer. it is suffering already.

    Suppression is not the way forward, vaccination and relaxing restrictions is the way forward. Your own cowardice about catching covid should not dictate our policy. After all, its about "the greater good"

    Not wanting to catch covid is cowardice? Rightyo.

    Does anybody remember what happened at Christmas at all!

    And just to point this out. It’s not the restrictions that are the cause of the economy suffering, it’s the virus.


  • #3563
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    fits wrote: »
    Not wanting to catch covid is cowardice? Rightyo.

    Does anybody remember what happened at Christmas at all!

    And just to point this out. It’s not the restrictions that are the cause of the economy suffering, it’s the virus.

    Wanting to shut down the whole country just because you are afraid of catching covid, yes that is cowardice.
    If you are in an at risk group you will be priority vaccinated, if you are not then the chance of serious illness is miniscule, and you have nothing to be afraid of.

    The virus has not closed down shops and businesses, the government have. They can choose not to do so, its not like their hands are tied.


  • #3564
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fits wrote: »
    Not wanting to catch covid is cowardice? Rightyo.

    Does anybody remember what happened at Christmas at all!

    Yeah six week lockdown , opening three weeks before the busiest period of the year for socialising and retail with a caveat we would be in lockdown in January. Almost like they told people to go mad for 3 weeks because we're locking ye down again. Guess some people went mad although many didn't.


  • #3565
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Does anyone remember what happened last summer at all?

    Logic would suggest that's a more relevant comparison for this summer than Christmas is. Especially considering we now have vaccines.

    Not really. It looks very much like a fourth wave is kicking off in Europe. I hope things will ease in summertime alright but that’s a couple of months away still


  • #3566
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    fits wrote: »
    Try Kripps or tiptoptoes for advice. Don’t have to be Clark’s tbh. My children have never had Clark’s.

    Kripps are closed and didnt have the tiny narrow baby size online , we tried them

    She got sorted as a friend had a measuring device and she could then order from Clarks as she knew the width she needed .
    Personally I think its vital to have a babys foot measured and it should be facilitated with shops open for this very reason


  • #3567
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Is that Group 4 or Group 7?

    Both are for those with underlying conditions

    I'm guessing it's 4

    Its 4 first . The list is quite specific .Type1
    Diabetics who look after themselves and keep their HB Ac1 now have to wait for group 7 while those with uncontrolled diabetes with high HB1AC will be in group 4


  • #3568
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Its 4 first . The list is quite specific .Type1
    Diabetics who look after themselves and keep their HB1ac low have to wait for group 7 while those with uncontrolled diabetes with high HB1AC will be in group 4


    I don't think I saw that level of specificity last week on the Gov.ie site

    Have you a link to where it says that specifically?

    Thanks


  • #3569
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    I don't think I saw that level of specificity last week on the Gov.ie site

    Have you a link to where it says that specifically?

    Thanks

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/39038-provisional-vaccine-allocation-groups/

    Group 4
    Diabetes
    Uncontrolled diabetes, for example: HbA1C ≥58mmol/mol.



    Group 7

    Diabetes
    All other diabetes (Type 1 and 2).


  • #3570
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,590 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Kripps are closed and didnt have the tiny narrow baby size online , we tried them

    She got sorted as a friend had a measuring device and she could then order from Clarks as she knew the width she needed .
    Personally I think its vital to have a babys foot measured and it should be facilitated with shops open for this very reason

    It's very important.
    Can GPs do this?


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  • #3571
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    It's very important.
    Can GPs do this?

    Why make GPs do it when you could just let shoe shops open?


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