Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Graham · 28-01-2021 08:16PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Some lives more disrupted than others.

A lot more.

Naturally, across the entire spectrum of the population.

Lundstram · 28-01-2021 08:20PM

You cannot compare a middle aged person WFH with a person 16-25. That demographic has taken the brunt of this.

You keep on deluding yourself thinking this is just a minor inconvenience to everyone.

28-01-2021 08:20PM

Lundstram wrote: »

8 month waiting list for driving tests. Have a look at the Garda twitter page bragging about taking cars off young people trying to get to work in the middle of a pandemic. Just goes to show how young people have been treated through all this.

No ones work life should be put on hold because they have to wait the guts of a year for a driving test because of a so called deadly virus.

Then in the comments underneath you have all the middle aged WFH warriors congratulating the Gardai on their heroic work.

First sign of rain and checkpoints are ceased and their sitting in their cars.

Brave frontline indeed.

Is WFH warriors the new curtain twitchers. There is always an “other” to demonise and blame

landofthetree · 28-01-2021 08:21PM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1354867235450482689

Never going to end.

Mr. Karate · 28-01-2021 08:22PM

Arghus wrote: »

You don't wait until your hospitals are overwhelmed before you lockdown - even if we left it mighty close this time.

You take preventative action before the situation you are trying to avoid occurs.

We can't keep locking down and destroying the economy and people's lives for hypotheticals. The A&E MIGHT get overcrowded is not a good enough excuse at this stage to keep this sham of endless locksdowns going.

uli84 · 28-01-2021 08:22PM

FFS what a show, gardai at the airport yesterday literally reducing my friend to tears trying to prevent her from flying to a funeral, muppets

ceadaoin. · 28-01-2021 08:22PM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

You said if it was ebola people would willingly go into lockdown. Ebola never got anywhere near the levels of infection covid has so there is no comparison.
It was a pointless comparison actually.

We should all be ok re ebola though as a vaccine has essentially stopped that.

I said if it was something like ebola. So a virus with high lethality to the point that people actually were dropping dead on the streets, everyone knew someone affected etc etc. Everyone would stay home then and surely wouldn't be rioting against restrictions, or having illegal family get togethers.

Arghus · 28-01-2021 08:23PM

Lundstram wrote: »

You cannot compare a middle aged person WFH with a person 16-25. That demographic has taken the brunt of this.

You keep on deluding yourself thinking this is just a minor inconvenience to everyone.

I'd argue that the demographic most at risk of death or serious illness have taken the brunt of this.

beauf · 28-01-2021 08:23PM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

That is what is causing all the frustration and outrage on here. Those that believe we should end lockdown are in the minority.

Most of this thread has no basis in reality. It should probably be in humor or after hours.

Arghus · 28-01-2021 08:24PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

We can't keep locking down and destroying the economy and people's lives for hypotheticals. The A&E MIGHT get overcrowded is not a good enough excuse at this stage to keep this sham of endless locksdowns going.

Nothing hypothetical about it. If we didn't lock down at crucial times our ICU's would have become overwhelmed.

Lundstram · 28-01-2021 08:26PM

Arghus wrote: »

I'd argue that the demographic most at risk of death or serious illness have taken the brunt of this.

We’ll have to agree to disagree then. Why haven’t they been cocooning themselves or more importantly what have the HSE done to prevent catching the virus in hospital or ripping through nursing homes?

They’ve done nothing. They admitted so a few weeks ago.

It’s selfish to expect 5M people to put their lives on hold for what will probably be close to 18 months.

Protect the vulnerable, life goes on for the rest.

beauf · 28-01-2021 08:26PM

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1354867235450482689

Never going to end.

Yes never. To eternity.

landofthetree · 28-01-2021 08:31PM

beauf wrote: »

Yes never. To eternity.

It will take till at least mid 2024.

beauf · 28-01-2021 08:31PM

Lundstram wrote: »

We’ll have to agree to disagree then. Why haven’t they been cocooning themselves or more importantly what have the HSE done to prevent catching the virus in hospital or ripping through nursing homes?

They’ve done nothing. They admitted so a few weeks ago.

It’s selfish to expect 5M people to put their lives on hold for what will probably be close to 18 months.

Protect the vulnerable, life goes on for the rest.

Well if you can just ignore everything that happened in nursing homes and hospitals.
I guess we can ignore than 5M and say they haven't put their lives on hold either.
Seems fair.

beauf · 28-01-2021 08:32PM

landofthetree wrote: »

It will take till at least mid 2024.

You've redefined "never ending" as 4 yrs.

Multipass · 28-01-2021 08:33PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

My brother had his theory test booked for Monday in Cork, booked since October.
This morning he got email notification that his test was cancelled due the lockdown and they’d be in touch to reschedule.
He received another email several hours later confirming his new appointment, for August 31st.

He rang straight away to ask for something a bit sooner as he’s hoping to change careers (currently on PUP) and will need to be driving for it.
They said testing centres are running at 20% capacity due to social distancing and August is the best they can do, but that’s conditional to the lockdown being lifted on March 5th. They may need to postpone further if that’s the case.

That’ll be 10 months from when he first booked it.
Should theory tests and driving tests not be considered essential services?
A 10 month wait is completely unreasonable and impractical, and the backlog is only going to get bigger as time goes on.

Driving is essential. Nothing about this makes any sense.

Tell me about it. My teenager has failed the test twice since this all started, in large part because there’s been so much time between driving tests, and very very few lessons available. I can’t insure her on my car as I can’t afford the outrageous amount, She needs to pass the test in order to get to work and pay for her own insurance. But she has had basically no practice for an entire year, this could go on for years.

Arghus · 28-01-2021 08:36PM

Lundstram wrote: »

We’ll have to agree to disagree then. Why haven’t they been cocooning themselves or more importantly what have the HSE done to prevent catching the virus in hospital or ripping through nursing homes?

They’ve done nothing. They admitted so a few weeks ago.

It’s selfish to expect 5M people to put their lives on hold for what will probably be close to 18 months.

Protect the vulnerable, life goes on for the rest.

You're right mate.

Those people at most risk of serious illness or worse are who we should be really blaming for all this.

Kunta Kinte · 28-01-2021 08:36PM

Graham wrote: »

There's a pandemic. Everyone's lives have been disrupted.

Lashing out at the Gardai, the middle-aged, the elderly, NPHET, the government, the Doctors, the anyone at all that disagrees with you does not further whatever point it is you're trying to make.

Indeed. You could have included the teachers as well. This particular poster seems to have issues with everyone and anyone in authority. He obviously has an anti authority agenda and uses the guise of the pandemic to try to conceal it. Telling to read how some here are taken in by his act and lap it up.

Mr. Karate · 28-01-2021 08:37PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Why would lockdowns be here to stay?

Why would Tony Holohan want lockdowns to be here to stay?

Because he's a ****ing idiot who has no business being in the position he's in.

Boggles · 28-01-2021 08:39PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I said if it was something like ebola. So a virus with high lethality to the point that people actually were dropping dead on the streets, everyone knew someone affected etc etc. Everyone would stay home then and surely wouldn't be rioting against restrictions, or having illegal family get togethers.

So we should only protect our health care system if the virus makes people drop dead on the street?

Jesus, I think the thread is about to peak (again).

froog · 28-01-2021 08:39PM

Lundstram wrote: »

You cannot compare a middle aged person WFH with a person 16-25. That demographic has taken the brunt of this.

You keep on deluding yourself thinking this is just a minor inconvenience to everyone.

The 70+ demographic have taken the brunt of this. In isolation and in chances of dying or getting seriously ill.

Real Donald Trump · 28-01-2021 08:40PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Because he's a ****ing idiot who has no business being in the position he's in.

Indeed, Gob****e of the highest order

Silentcorner · 28-01-2021 08:43PM

Boggles wrote: »

So we should only protect our health care system if the virus makes people drop dead on the street?

Jesus, I think the thread is about to peak (again).

Still no sign of that science you mentioned earlier? We are waiting!

There is a big difference, thankfully, between Covid and Ebola, that is the point that was being made...but go on, engage in hyperbole if you must!!!

Kunta Kinte · 28-01-2021 08:43PM

uli84 wrote: »

FFS what a show, gardai at the airport yesterday literally reducing to tears my friend trying to prevent her from flying to a funeral, muppets

The Gardai are doing their job which is enforcing the rules.

28-01-2021 08:44PM

Arghus wrote: »

I'd argue that the demographic most at risk of death or serious illness have taken the brunt of this.

And yet none of them have lost jobs, income, livelihoods or anything like that. And they won’t pay the bill.

Lundstram · 28-01-2021 08:44PM

froog wrote: »

The 70+ demographic have taken the brunt of this. In isolation and in chances of dying or getting seriously ill.

Yeah your man already said that. It’s still not true no matter how many of you say it.

Empty rhetoric.

FintanMcluskey · 28-01-2021 08:44PM

froog wrote: »

The 70+ demographic have taken the brunt of this. In isolation and in chances of dying or getting seriously ill.

At all times over 70s have a higher chance of dying unfortunately.

It’s the way life works

Lundstram · 28-01-2021 08:45PM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

The Gardai are doing their job which is enforcing the rules.

Except when it rains or gets a bit cold.

froog · 28-01-2021 08:46PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Yeah your man already said that. It’s still not true no matter how many of you say it.

Empty rhetoric.

Which bit is not true?

Arghus · 28-01-2021 08:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

And yet none of them have lost jobs, income, livelihoods or anything like that. And they won’t pay the bill.

No, just their lives.

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