Brexit: The Last Stand (No name calling)

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tomwaterford wrote: »

What's the point in having a referendum if your just going to ignore the results


They fought a somewhat disastrous wars to bring democracy to the middle East....but will ignore it at home

Lets be clear here if the referendum was based on sound fact's from both sides it wouldn't be an issue but the fact is it was barely carried and alot of it was due to misinformation and because it was more seen as a protest vote as well. There's also the fact that the vote itself was deeply divisive across generations and territories and its a complete mess. The whole thing only started because it was the damn tories being stupid in the first place and blaming Europe for their own inadequacies. Now they risk the UK breaking up in the next decade because of it.

The only thing that might save them is if it's decided that parliament has to vote on triggering it and if things get bad enough beforehand there might be enough pressure on the MPs and enough shift in public opinion to basically say "screw this" and call it quits on this. The fall in the £ and the risk of prices rising across the board and job losses can swing things very quickly if it bites hard enough.

As for the middle east dont make anyone laugh that whole region is a cesspool filled with ignorance stupidity and Darwin Award State, they didnt exactly bring much democracy there only blew open pent up frustrastions. Russia and 'Murica aint making things any better but the place is a dump as it and it'll take a century or more or a nuclear war before they wise up and realise how stupid they are. Once the oil dries up out there they're screwed big time all that bad karma will come back to bite em.

Hopefully it won't harm the British economy too much because it'll be bad for all of us if it does.

catbear wrote: »

being politically attached to Britain was a disaster for us. brexit is the heave we need to break the lure of that easy market.

It would be wrong to waste a good crisis.

We're going to trade with a market of +60m people, only a few miles across the sea, one way or another. To think that we could avoid it is unrealistic.

Peregrine wrote: »

Next one will be Brexit with a Vengeance.

If we ever reach a good day to brexit hard I think I may just leave.

Interesting point by Naomi Long on Spotlight, no secretary of state on the cabinet Brexit Committee.
Looks like it's gonna be like it or lump it come decision time. Whatever about NI, it seems impossible to avoid annoying the Scots.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

It will be interesting to see what the High Court and Supreme Courts rule on May's authority to trigger Article 50 without the consent of Parliament.

It could be what undoes this omni-shambles of a mess.

With any luck. Parliament will get their say surely, and if they do there must be a growing realisation there of what a complete cluster fxxx this really is.

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Harry Palmr wrote: »

catbear

Why would a small open economy wilfully decide to reject an English speaking economy of 62 million poeple right next door?

It's they who are dong the rejecting, surely? Right now they're in a single market with (among others ) us, and they want out. That's unfortunate for us, but we can't actually stop them leaving.

Should we leave with them, in the hope that they'll set up new single market with just little old us? No, that would be silly. Why leave an actual single market with 450 million people in it in the hope of possibly getting a single market with just 70 million people in it?

Harry, send me your next month's paycheck, and if I like you there's a good chance that I'll send you back about 13% of it.