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hucklebuck · 21-11-2011, 22:17

I was wondering what horse you think represents the best value in the ante post markets for Cheltenham?

For me it's Samain but I am not sure where he is going, that aside Denman could be well worth an each way smash given the training masterstroke on Kauto.

Huntey · 21-11-2011, 22:24

Sir Des Champs at 25/1, Ante-Post would break your heart though.

Goldcupfav · 22-11-2011, 12:42

Sonofvic ew at 33/1 for the RSA. Should be running in a novice chase over 3m on Thursday at Newbury. 2/2 over hurdles always going to make a much better chaser.

RichieLawlor · 22-11-2011, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Goldcupfav

Sonofvic ew at 33/1 for the RSA. Should be running in a novice chase over 3m on Thursday at Newbury. 2/2 over hurdles always going to make a much better chaser.

Grands Crus will be in that novice chase on Thursday aswell I think

Goldcupfav · 22-11-2011, 14:20

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Grands Crus will be in that novice chase on Thursday aswell I think

Yeah seen he was entered in the race. If GC runs i will have a nibble on Sonofvic w/o GC.

Oscars Well. · 22-11-2011, 19:27

Prospect Wells for the supreme novices at 14/1.

aidankkk · 22-11-2011, 19:30

Ive no doubt at all , Tataniano is superb value for the Champion Chase. on good ground i think hell be difficult to beat, he is in the top 3 jumpers of a fence in training imo... 16/1 currently i have a little bit on at 25/1 not so long ago..

mdwexford · 22-11-2011, 23:41

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Ive no doubt at all , Tataniano is superb value for the Champion Chase. on good ground i think hell be difficult to beat, he is in the top 3 jumpers of a fence in training imo... 16/1 currently i have a little bit on at 25/1 not so long ago..

I was expecting big things from him last year but things didnt go to plan.

He is a savage jumper and that round he put in at Aintree when slamming Osana was the best round id seen from a novice since Azertyuiops Arkle.

On good ground against the current crop id fancy him to run really well also.

Morgans · 23-11-2011, 05:19

Have had a little on Mr. Moonshine for the RSA at 33/1 and Unaccompanied for the Champion Hurdle at 33/1.

robbie1977 · 23-11-2011, 15:59

SE will be 10-y-o and BZ will be 11-y-o in march and they are the first 2 in the betting.
Captain Chris is 4th fav and he might'nt run in it.

Realt Dubh is 25/1 with sportingbet for the champion chase.
He was 3rd in the arkle, which has a great record for it runners in the next years CC.
He then pushed Captain Chris hard at punchestown.
With normal improvement this year he should have a good chance.

Morgans · 23-11-2011, 16:24

Just dont see him being quick enough. If he good enough for a grade 1 at the festival, I think it will be the Ryanair.

Huntey · 23-11-2011, 17:13

Wishfull Thinking has a better chance of going for the Queen Mother than Captain Chris imo. Wouldn't be surprised to see him stepped back to 2 miles.

RichieLawlor · 23-11-2011, 18:14

If Captain Chris runs in the Champion Chase then he will probably win it. I learned my lesson last year. Never ever take on the Arkle winner in the Queen Mother. The record is unreal

Goldcupfav · 23-11-2011, 18:19

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Sonofvic ew at 33/1 for the RSA. Should be running in a novice chase over 3m on Thursday at Newbury. 2/2 over hurdles always going to make a much better chaser.

Goes up against Grand Crus tomorrow. 6/1 with 365 now. Think thats a decent price. I have my doubts over Grand Crus staying 3 miles. Paul Nicholls always keeps one of his better chasing prospects for this race. (1833 and Michel Le Bon winners the last two years both are fancied for the Hennessy on Sat, his record is 7 winners in the last 20 runnings also had a few bf's in the last few years) With Viking Blond in the race they should go a decent clip even with 4 runners. Im on Sonofvic EW at 33's for the RSA if he does manage to beat GC tomorrow he will be less than half that price tomorrow evening.

mdwexford · 23-11-2011, 20:09

The Grands Crus thing is getting old, the horse has bags of stamina and is proven over three miles.

Just because Big Bucks got the better of him last season twice doesnt mean he lacks staying power.

If BB had gotten injured GC would have crushed everything all season.

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hucklebuck Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Blanchardstown Posts: 2,501 Adverts \| Friends	Cheltenham Ante Post Pick I was wondering what horse you think represents the best value in the ante post markets for Cheltenham? For me it's Samain but I am not sure where he is going, that aside Denman could be well worth an each way smash given the training masterstroke on Kauto.

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21-11-2011, 22:24	#2
Huntey Closed Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 432 Adverts \| Friends	Sir Des Champs at 25/1, Ante-Post would break your heart though.

22-11-2011, 12:42	#3
Goldcupfav Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 988 Adverts \| Friends	Sonofvic ew at 33/1 for the RSA. Should be running in a novice chase over 3m on Thursday at Newbury. 2/2 over hurdles always going to make a much better chaser.

22-11-2011, 19:27	#6
Oscars Well. Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Louth Posts: 833 Adverts \| Friends	Prospect Wells for the supreme novices at 14/1.

22-11-2011, 19:30	#7
aidankkk Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,521 Adverts \| Friends	Ive no doubt at all , Tataniano is superb value for the Champion Chase. on good ground i think hell be difficult to beat, he is in the top 3 jumpers of a fence in training imo... 16/1 currently i have a little bit on at 25/1 not so long ago..

23-11-2011, 05:19	#9
Morgans Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,214 Adverts \| Friends	Have had a little on Mr. Moonshine for the RSA at 33/1 and Unaccompanied for the Champion Hurdle at 33/1.

23-11-2011, 15:59	#10
robbie1977 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,313 Adverts \| Friends	SE will be 10-y-o and BZ will be 11-y-o in march and they are the first 2 in the betting. Captain Chris is 4th fav and he might'nt run in it. Realt Dubh is 25/1 with sportingbet for the champion chase. He was 3rd in the arkle, which has a great record for it runners in the next years CC. He then pushed Captain Chris hard at punchestown. With normal improvement this year he should have a good chance.

23-11-2011, 16:24	#11
Morgans Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,214 Adverts \| Friends	Just dont see him being quick enough. If he good enough for a grade 1 at the festival, I think it will be the Ryanair.

23-11-2011, 17:13	#12
Huntey Closed Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 432 Adverts \| Friends	Wishfull Thinking has a better chance of going for the Queen Mother than Captain Chris imo. Wouldn't be surprised to see him stepped back to 2 miles.

23-11-2011, 18:14	#13
RichieLawlor Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,997 Adverts \| Friends	If Captain Chris runs in the Champion Chase then he will probably win it. I learned my lesson last year. Never ever take on the Arkle winner in the Queen Mother. The record is unreal

23-11-2011, 20:09	#15
mdwexford Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Waiting For Cheltenham 2014 Posts: 6,892 Adverts \| Friends	The Grands Crus thing is getting old, the horse has bags of stamina and is proven over three miles. Just because Big Bucks got the better of him last season twice doesnt mean he lacks staying power. If BB had gotten injured GC would have crushed everything all season.