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Bankruptcy Sale Local hotel - legit? Faulty goods

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  • 11-01-2009 8:24pm
    #1
    dotcom13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭


    Banruptcy Sale Local hotel - legit? Faulty goods

    Hi all, I have just spent €200 on a video camera from of the "Irish Stock Driector" sale in a local hotel.

    The camera does not work? I havn't tried yet to get a refund as the phone line does not open until Monday. Has anyone had a similar experience? did you get any money back or cab you advise me what to do?

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    #2
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    If this is what I think it is, then you'll have pretty much no comeback. These "Auctions" are little more than a scam, and usually, all sales are final.

    Not an Online Buying issue either, so moving to Consumer Issues.


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    gerrycollins
    Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭gerrycollins


    when we lived in Dublin we used to get leaflets about these all the time too good to be true with their pricing etc.

    look out for a lot more of these with current conditions places closing down etc its a mini scam. Usual conditions I saw was that the sale is final.


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    darc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭darc


    you've been duped!

    write to the hotel about the complaint - thye can't do anything but at least it will stop the scam merchants coming back.


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    Rev. Kitchen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Its a scam you will see leaflets that say PSP 10 euro 32" tv 50 euro video camera 20 euro etc. When you get there they will have empty boxes of PS3's etc they will start off with some silly worthless things like a set of pens for example worth 5 euro they sell it for 1 euro you think ah thats a bargin. About 20 people will get those and then thats it. They will do stuff like "this psp is worth 200 euro i wont take 200 euro ill put it with this dvd player this shaver this kettle etc". All this stuff can be collected "after the show" and big stuff like TV's will need to be delivered.

    The second its over some big cross men come in and heard everyone out you are left standing wondering where your stuff is while some one shoes you out the door. They dissapear and are never seen again.

    You could go to the hotel they would have some contoct details maybe for them as they would have had to book the hotel but i fear those details wont be any good either.

    The real hussle on BBC3 covered this scam.


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    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Rev. Kitchen wrote: »
    The second its over some big cross men come in and heard everyone out you are left standing wondering where your stuff is while some one shoes you out the door. They dissapear and are never seen again.

    That's one type of scam alright, but the one I'm thinking of, and the one the OP is talking about too, is where you do actually get stuff, just that it's not a bargain, it's just shit. They whip the crowd into a bidding frenzy, possibly using actual brand name goods, but they sell this to a plant. Then, they offer "similar" items to everyone else, at the same price (which will be way more than what the knockoff is worth).

    Learn the rather expensive lesson, and stay clear of all these things in future.


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    dotcom13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭dotcom13


    Thanks all for your response, I'll make an effort to get something back. Wish me luck! :mad:


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    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Did you pay cash, or credit card (and yes, some of these scammers actually are legit credit card processors too)? If credit card, you might get in touch with the bank.


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    dotcom13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭dotcom13


    Nope just cash, Big Mistake all round.

    not over yet tho..


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    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    dotcom13 wrote: »
    Nope just cash, Big Mistake all round.

    not over yet tho..
    Ill be interested to see how you get on. But these guys do this for a living. They are used to flicking off complainants and they dont scare easily.


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    #11
    dotcom13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭dotcom13


    I agree, can only try... Goods don't even work at all, stuff missing etc...

    I'll update at later stage to show outcome.


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    Yavvy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Yavvy


    the first time I saw these type of flyers come in the door I went along thinking it might actually be true. but when I got there ( and I paid 2 euro entrnace) I saw it was a Scam straight away.

    they did this halliarious thing where they pretended it was an action and ( for example ) they held up a dvd palyer .. "we have 10 of these" and said "do I here 100 euro"... nothing... "do I here 90 euro"...nothing... and when they get to the price they want to sell at "do I here 80 euro" then all the order takers walking the floor would start shouting "one here" "two Here" even though I could see no one was bidding...this would pressure some poor soul thinking about it to put up his/her hand before they ran out !!

    also the spen the first hour selling low value crap so they can shift loads of low value crap before trying to shift high value crap like cameras and TV's ..

    I ddint buy anythign so I cant say how good or bad the quality is but a friend I know bought a pair of "Nike" from a simial type scam ( his discription was identical to mine ) and they were fakes that fell apart.

    I hope you get your money back but im afraid you will have to live and learn.

    In my opinion Adverts.ie is the best place for low cost electronics. I have got some amazing bargins on there and all items are as described in my experiance. afterthat ebay has been good to me


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    eth0_
    Registered Users Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    darc wrote: »
    you've been duped!

    write to the hotel about the complaint - thye can't do anything but at least it will stop the scam merchants coming back.

    Come on though, the hotels know well that it's a scam, and yet they still hire their conference rooms to these tinks.


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    bongo2
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭bongo2


    I went to one of these 10 years ago with my brother and we both bought tvs. Mine is still going strong. He did have a problem with his but he contacted the people running the auction and they collected it from him and repaired it. I agree that it's a bit of a risk purchasing items from these auctions but I have been to a couple and haven't had a bad experience.


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    eth0_
    Registered Users Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    Yeah right...I haven't heard one positive story about these things. They're run by scam artists.


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    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    been to a couple of them, they are in the most part a scam, but I enjoy filling a couple of bags with the little fiddly items for a quid a two each


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    [Deleted User]
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    Is this what happened ? .....................................

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o1zdm7ANVw&feature=related


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    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    if you got a leaflet in the door about the sale/auction then it might have the sellers details on it in the "smallprint"


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    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    eth0_ wrote: »
    Come on though, the hotels know well that it's a scam, and yet they still hire their conference rooms to these tinks.

    Indeed.

    These hotels ought to be named and shamed for profiting from these scams, maybe some high-profile shaming would discourage other establishments from hosting scam parties.

    Holding these events in respectable looking hotels is an important part of the convincer. If it was at an outdoor market, scummy warehouse or back of a caravan at a halting site even the dimmest people would be likely to smell a rat.


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    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,218 ✭✭✭ongarite


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    if you got a leaflet in the door about the sale/auction then it might have the sellers details on it in the "smallprint"

    Yeah right, just like all the clothes charity collection flyers that come through my letterbox contain a genuine phone and registered company number.


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    #21
    dotcom13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭dotcom13


    Well its been nearly a week since I've had my money taken from these boy's and I've called a few times they did answer twice but not in the last few days.. Still no money back.


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    Climate Expert
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    dotcom13 wrote: »
    Well its been nearly a week since I've had my money taken from these boy's and I've called a few times they did answer twice but not in the last few days.. Still no money back.

    Give it up.

    Greed has lost you €200. The camera you bought is probably worth €15 anyway. Broken or not you still got scammed.

    In future research your purchases before and try and buy from a reputable dealer or website.


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    #23
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    dotcom13 wrote: »
    Well its been nearly a week since I've had my money taken from these boy's and I've called a few times they did answer twice but not in the last few days.. Still no money back.

    If you have a name and address for the company, then you're only option is to get a Solicitor to write them a letter. Even this may not work, but a solicitor who specialises in consumer issues would probably know.

    Citizens Information office, or National Consumer Agency, may also be able to advise, but they won't get involved on your behalf. It'll still be you against them, and if they're not even replying, then you won't get far.


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    Lplated
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Lplated


    Because this is an auction, advertised as such, and you made a winning bid, i think you're stuck with the 'buying as is' thing - i.e. that you bid on a good in the condition its in (whether working or not).

    Even if i'm wrong on that, you're obviously going to have problems getting satisfaction from traders whose only interface with the public is by booking hotels room and sending out flyers with a mobile phone number on it.

    Unfortunately, most of the time when something looks too good to be true, thats becuase it is.


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    #25
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Have you ever gone to one of these clearances usual in a hotel?

    I have a flyer for one thinking of going. Are they any use?


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    Wacko
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Wacko


    This feels like a weird case of deja vu, I think someone asked the exact same question a while ago, short story of it, they are chancers and crooks stay away.


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    #27
    MonsterMob
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭MonsterMob


    Would be interested. Do you have any other details about it?


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    #28
    thenightrider
    Registered Users Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭thenightrider


    Just stay away they are a big scam


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    #29
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    was at one of them...... years ago ..... didnt know what to expect and what I was looking for ...it was mainly clothes and in my opinion mainly last years stock or damaged stock (I got a jacket for €70 and discovered small hole less than 1cm in diameter on the inside afterwards ..... jacket retailed for €250)

    Anyway.... take care and inspect everything and you can get them to drop the price ...so haggle a bit.

    REMEMBER - theres NO REFUNDS !!! (all sales are final)


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    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    have a read of this thread from consumer issues


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    #31
    coldfire1x
    Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭coldfire1x


    Warning: Dont go anywhere near them. SCAM!!!

    Plenty of good deals available in good stores and on the net.


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