The Tiger Woods Thread

Trampas · 01-12-2016 8:27pm

Couldn't careless if he never wins again or not but I just hope we get don't get wall to wall coverage of him when he's not in contention when we don't see the battle at the top.

On a side note world ranking for this tournament is a joke. Basically a group of pros topping up their ranking points. Shouldn't be any

46 points for first and a couple for just walking 4 rounds.

Hoof Hearted2 · 01-12-2016 8:38pm

Trampas wrote: »

Couldn't careless if he never wins again or not but I just hope we get don't get wall to wall coverage of him when he's not in contention when we don't see the battle at the top.

On a side note world ranking for this tournament is a joke. Basically a group of pros topping up their ranking points. Shouldn't be any

46 points for first and a couple for just walking 4 rounds.

Yeah it's so unfair, only the players who have played well all year and/or are highly ranked get to take advantage this opportunity.

The Rape of Lucretia · 01-12-2016 8:40pm

Trampas wrote: »

46 points for first and a couple for just walking 4 rounds.

Tiger is in the building though. Well worth those points. He just elevates the tournament to a different level all on his own whatever the level of the rest of the field. The normal rules just dont apply when he is around.

Trampas · 01-12-2016 8:48pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Tiger is in the building though. Well worth those points. He just elevates the tournament to a different level all on his own whatever the level of the rest of the field. The normal rules just dont apply when he is around.

Him playing doesn't increase the world ranking points. The nedbank use to be same. Pure let's boost our rankings tournament on a birdie feast course

Keano · 01-12-2016 8:55pm

Hoof Hearted2 wrote: »

It's all unraveling now, expect a WD coming up tomorrow!.

Enough trolling. Either add to the thread or stop posting in it. You will not be getting another warning.

Armchair Andy · 01-12-2016 8:56pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote:

Tiger is in the building though. Well worth those points. He just elevates the tournament to a different level all on his own whatever the level of the rest of the field. The normal rules just dont apply when he is around.

You'd swear he was the end all and be all of golf. Pity there wasn't the strength in depth on Tour back then as there is now. The normal broadcasting rules definitely go out the window alright.

LuckyGent88 · 01-12-2016 8:59pm

Starting to get a bit raged now. Still a pretty positive day.

The Rape of Lucretia · 01-12-2016 9:15pm

Armchair Andy wrote: »

You'd swear he was the end all and be all of golf. Pity there wasn't the strength in depth on Tour back then as there is now. The normal broadcasting rules definitely go out the window alright.

There was strength in depth - from number two down. But Tiger just blowing the rest of them away in his pomp made it seem on the surface as if there werent.

And so they should. Tiger is not normal broadcasting material. He is a sporting phenomenon that come along once in decades, making watching him consult the yardage chart an event.

luvthegame · 01-12-2016 9:17pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

There was strength in depth - from number two down. But Tiger just blowing the rest of them away in his pomp made it seem on the surface as if there werent.

And so they should. Tiger is not normal broadcasting material. He is a sporting phenomenon that come along once in decades, making watching him consult the yardage chart an event.

Jaysus give it a rest

Senna · 01-12-2016 9:22pm

As much as I want to see the best golf being shown in the coverage, I still can't resist watching every shot of woods. As long as he isn't down at +10 and they still keep focus on him, then I'm OK with it.

And jesus the golf channel is brutal for adverts.

WHIP IT! · 01-12-2016 9:28pm

Senna wrote: »

As much as I want to see the best golf being shown in the coverage, I still can't resist watching every shot of woods. As long as he isn't down at +10 and they still keep focus on him, then I'm OK with it.

And jesus the golf channel is brutal for adverts.

I don't think anyone has ever had a problem with that - it's the constant footage of him doing stuff other than hit golf shots (walking, standing, leaning, frowning, drinking) that drives people mad - when there is other top golfers out there, ye know, hitting golf shots!

golfer79 · 01-12-2016 9:32pm

Senna wrote: »

As much as I want to see the best golf being shown in the coverage, I still can't resist watching every shot of woods. As long as he isn't down at +10 and they still keep focus on him, then I'm OK with it.

And jesus the golf channel is brutal for adverts.

Is it possible to watch the golf channel live on tv from Ireland? Wouldn't want to miss that boat. Or perhaps you are abroad ... Thanks in advance.

Senna · 01-12-2016 9:38pm

golfer79 wrote: »

Is it possible to watch the golf channel live on tv from Ireland? Wouldn't want to miss that boat. Or perhaps you are abroad ... Thanks in advance.

Anythings possible, if it's legal, that's another question. Don't think I can say on here how to watch it, but Google answers all questions.

golfer79 · 01-12-2016 9:44pm

Senna wrote: »

Anythings possible, if it's legal, that's another question. Don't think I can say on here how to watch it, but Google answers all questions.

Fair enough. Thank you.

The Rape of Lucretia · 01-12-2016 9:47pm

Well that was one frickin awesome day. Doesnt really matter what happens over the next few rounds - HE IS BACK !
Itching for the 2017 seaon to get under way now.

mafc · 01-12-2016 9:48pm

Another poor drive into water
Tiger is becoming Tigger as his round further implodes

sky88 · 01-12-2016 9:56pm

I guess after non competitive golf in so long it's understandable that the round fell apart. Happens to so many when they only take a few months off

mafc · 01-12-2016 10:00pm

Three sixes on back nine, horrible stuff.
17th in 18 man field welcome back Tiger.

Senna · 01-12-2016 10:17pm

mafc wrote: »

Three sixes on back nine, horrible stuff.
17th in 18 man field welcome back Tiger.

He still made it into the top 20

Armchair Andy · 01-12-2016 10:27pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote:

Well that was one frickin awesome day. Doesnt really matter what happens over the next few rounds - HE IS BACK ! Itching for the 2017 seaon to get under way now.

How does one put another poster on ignore on the touch site anyone know?

Can such drivel be filtered permanently?

The Rape of Lucretia · 01-12-2016 11:18pm

Armchair Andy wrote: »

How does one put another poster on ignore on the touch site anyone know?

Can such drivel be filtered permanently?

Through your User Control Panel: User CP, Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List. Then, type my name into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.

Alternatively, you can click on my username to go to my profile page. Then click on User Lists and then Add to Ignore List.

ligerdub · 01-12-2016 11:25pm

73 - cool the euphoria.

He's going to have good days, he's going to have bad days. If he can finish middle of the pack this week it will have to be seen as progress. It's all gearing towards next season anyway, this is merely filler, the real tests will be from January, probably February onwards.

CalamariFritti · 02-12-2016 12:21am

A few leftish drives that cost him and short game has flashes but overall still a bit rusty. Irons are pretty good.
But the swing looks good, the back seems fine and to me he looks like a golfer who's coming from a long break, not like a finished golfer.
Which is nice.

Hoof Hearted2 · 02-12-2016 8:03am

Keano wrote: »

Enough trolling. Either add to the thread or stop posting in it. You will not be getting another warning.

How is that trolling? its my opinion of what I see taking place (and as it turns out I was correct, he was unraveling and shot at least 3 shots more than he should have and a Tiger in his prime would have shot 7 or 8 shots less, if you disagree with it, fair enough, counter it with your opinion, instead of getting on your high horse and trying to censor it.
FYI Warnings come in Bold

AnneFrank · 02-12-2016 10:30am

For his first round in 16 months after a couple of back operations, that can only be seen as a huge success for Tiger,
I'd say the viewing figures were through the roof.
He is obviously going to be inconsistent for a few months but that was so good to watch, and to see the excitement in his face after was great. I just hope for him, and for golf his back holds up.

AnneFrank · 02-12-2016 10:43am

Martin567 wrote: »

It won't be exciting if we're watching every shot Tiger plays while struggling to make cuts at the expense of those players at the top of the leaderboard.

That won't be exciting at all.

I think you're getting ahead of yourself here, a 14 time major champion is back after a 16 month break, of course his first tournament is going to be a circus.It will die down and get back to showing the leaders after a short time as that is what the audience wants.I could be wrong but i'd say Tiger would enjoy the camers off him too until he finds his feet

mafc · 02-12-2016 11:57am

Hoof Hearted2 wrote: »

How is that trolling? its my opinion of what I see taking place (and as it turns out I was correct, he was unraveling and shot at least 3 shots more than he should have and a Tiger in his prime would have shot 7 or 8 shots less, if you disagree with it, fair enough, counter it with your opinion, instead of getting on your high horse and trying to censor it.
FYI Warnings come in Bold

This place is fast becoming a joke if your opinions don't meet with the click.
Public forum lol.

First Up · 02-12-2016 12:01pm

You'd have thought a thread with the word Conflicted in the title could accomodate different opinions.

mafc · 02-12-2016 12:08pm

ArielAtom wrote: »

Not really a fan, saw him at his worst ignoring kids who had stood waiting for him at the K Club (Ryder Cup) only for him to pull thae cap down and ignore them all. That says it all about his character. So if I'm honest I hope he crashes and burns. Some of the wankfest on social media over his return has been comical viewing though.

Agreed, watching on Sky Sports last night and some of the pundits were creaming themselves about Tiger.

mafc · 02-12-2016 12:10pm

First Up wrote: »

You'd have thought a thread with the word Conflicted in the title could accomodate different opinions.

Ah yeah, but everything in moderation :rolleyes:

Jawgap · 02-12-2016 12:48pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

For his first round in 16 months after a couple of back operations, that can only be seen as a huge success for Tiger,
I'd say the viewing figures were through the roof.
He is obviously going to be inconsistent for a few months but that was so good to watch, and to see the excitement in his face after was great. I just hope for him, and for golf his back holds up.

That would be pretty much my sentiment.

Not a bad at the office for him - the very odd flash that suggests there's potential for better performances over the next few months, and the odd shot that needs tidying up if he really is going to deliver something to justify his place on the Tour over the next few months!

Overall, I'd say his abiding mood is relief......played 18 holes of moderately competitive golf without - hopefully - tweaking any of the old injuries or without any spectacular cock-ups.

I'm guessing he'd more than settle for a few months of regular competition and anonymous, mid-leaderboard mediocrity while he develops a better assessment of his competitive game?

bren2001 · 02-12-2016 12:48pm

mafc wrote: »

Agreed, watching on Sky Sports last night and some of the pundits were creaming themselves about Tiger.

He is the greatest (or at the very least, 2nd greatest) golfer of all time, returning at the age of 41 after taking over a year out of the game to let his body properly recover (which is the first time he has properly tried to recover from his injuries). Is it not understandable that everyone is "creaming themselves"?

Henry Ford III · 02-12-2016 12:55pm

bren2001 wrote: »

He is the greatest (or at the very least, 2nd greatest) golfer of all time, returning at the age of 41 after taking over a year out of the game to let his body properly recover (which is the first time he has properly tried to recover from his injuries). Is it not understandable that everyone is "creaming themselves"?

Not really.

He was a great player, but isn't currently, and might never be again. His return would have been very carefully managed, and he'd have been 100% ready in every way.

I watched it last night and was underwhelmed.

bren2001 · 02-12-2016 1:12pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Not really.

He was a great player, but isn't currently, and might never be again. His return would have been very carefully managed, and he'd have been 100% ready in every way.

I watched it last night and was underwhelmed.

If you expected the Tiger of old to turn up, rip up the course and blow the competition away, you're expectations were too high. I have not talked to anyone who expected anything other than dead last. I got the exact performance that could be expected of any golfer after such a long lay off. Its really hard to see how you were underwhelmed.

However, having one of the all time greats back in a sport is always exciting. He's 41 and has the potential to contend for majors. Will he? Nobody knows. If his body holds up and he can practice whenever he wants, its hard not to see him mounting a challenge at some point. Its hard to see his body holding up though.

For most, watching Tiger will be one of the most interesting aspects of the season. Hence, people are "creaming themselves". Seems perfectly understandable to me.

Henry Ford III · 02-12-2016 1:24pm

bren2001 wrote: »

If you expected the Tiger of old to turn up, rip up the course and blow the competition away, you're expectations were too high. I have not talked to anyone who expected anything other than dead last. I got the exact performance that could be expected of any golfer after such a long lay off. Its really hard to see how you were underwhelmed.

However, having one of the all time greats back in a sport is always exciting. He's 41 and has the potential to contend for majors. Will he? Nobody knows. If his body holds up and he can practice whenever he wants, its hard not to see him mounting a challenge at some point. Its hard to see his body holding up though.

For most, watching Tiger will be one of the most interesting aspects of the season. Hence, people are "creaming themselves". Seems perfectly understandable to me.

I expected him to have been competitive, and for some of the round he was just that. His round included a duffed chip, and a few wayward long shots which cost. Oh and a semi shank lets not forget. So on balance it wasn't hectic.

Others (notably his fan club/homeboys on this forum) expected more. "He's back" etc.

Do you think he'd have been happy with 2nd last place?

bren2001 · 02-12-2016 1:34pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I expected him to have been competitive, and for some of the round he was just that. His round included a duffed chip, and a few wayward long shots which cost. Oh and a semi shank lets not forget. So on balance it wasn't hectic.

Others (notably his fan club/homeboys on this forum) expected more. "He's back" etc.

Do you think he'd have been happy with 2nd last place?

He's up against 17 of the top 50 ranked golfers in the world, after 15 months out of the game and you expect him to be competitive. If McIlroy, DJ, Day or anyone else returned after such a long lay-off, I'd expect them to struggle big time. Expecting him to be competitive seems crazy.

Some people have gone OTT on his return, no doubt, but I dont understand how you could be "underwhelmed". He had 15 solid holes yesterday and imploded on the final 3. Everyone has a few wayward shots every round. However, his irons looked very good. His driving was ok as was his short game for the most part (and that was the worry). If anything, he exceeded expectations for me.

I don't think he expected much more and I certainly hope he is not happy with it.

Henry Ford III · 02-12-2016 1:52pm

bren2001 wrote: »

He's up against 17 of the top 50 ranked golfers in the world, after 15 months out of the game and you expect him to be competitive. If McIlroy, DJ, Day or anyone else returned after such a long lay-off, I'd expect them to struggle big time. Expecting him to be competitive seems crazy.

Some people have gone OTT on his return, no doubt, but I dont understand how you could be "underwhelmed". He had 15 solid holes yesterday and imploded on the final 3. Everyone has a few wayward shots every round. However, his irons looked very good. His driving was ok as was his short game for the most part (and that was the worry). If anything, he exceeded expectations for me.

I don't think he expected much more and I certainly hope he is not happy with it.

His return was stage managed to the nth degree. I don't think he could possibly have been any more ready. He deferred it previously due to his game being "vulnerable".

He's mended physically and had enough practice under his belt to face the world (the cameras were certainly following him) and compete with confidence. In the circumstances his display was underwhelming.

I reckon his mental edge is gone.

Keano · 02-12-2016 2:22pm

If you really believe any golfer can take that much time off and come back on day one of competitive golf and not make mistakes then you clearly do not understand the game of golf. You can practice until the cows come home but the minute you put a scorecard in any golfers hands it's a different ball game.

Tilikum · 02-12-2016 2:22pm

He's played his first 18 holes of competitive golf in 16 months. He's was -3 after 15.

'His mental edge is gone'

I really have to stop opening this thread lol.

Henry Ford III · 02-12-2016 2:31pm

Keano wrote: »

If you really believe any golfer can take that much time off and come back on day one of competitive golf and not make mistakes then you clearly do not understand the game of golf. You can practice until the cows come home but the minute you put a scorecard in any golfers hands it's a different ball game.

Your opinion and mine clearly are quite different on Woods. Vive la difference.

Please don't try and tell me what I do/don't understand however.

Henry Ford III · 02-12-2016 2:32pm

Tilikum wrote: »

He's played his first 18 holes of competitive golf in 16 months. He's was -3 after 15.

'His mental edge is gone'

I really have to stop opening this thread lol.

It's important to remember that a round of golf is 18 holes.

Armchair Andy · 02-12-2016 2:38pm

Henry Ford III wrote:

I expected him to have been competitive, and for some of the round he was just that. His round included a duffed chip, and a few wayward long shots which cost. Oh and a semi shank lets not forget. So on balance it wasn't hectic.

He also carried a 5 iron 233 yards by his own reckoning.

Mushy · 02-12-2016 2:46pm

I'd say he got a bit fatigued towards the end. Playing in that heat in first competitive game in that long, it got to him.

See what happens today, I'd almost say something similar will happen until his "fitness" returns fully. That will take a few tournaments too.

Henry Ford III · 02-12-2016 2:47pm

Armchair Andy wrote: »

He also carried a 5 iron 233 yards by his own reckoning.

No doubting his strength or conditioning. He has trimmed down a bit and looks pretty lean and keen.

He has joined the baldies however. Jordan Speith is next.....:D

Armchair Andy · 02-12-2016 2:55pm

Henry Ford III wrote:

No doubting his strength or conditioning. He has trimmed down a bit and looks pretty lean and keen.

Henry Ford III wrote:

He has joined the baldies however. Jordan Speith is next.....

Pity it was a shank into the desert but even still very impressive.

AnneFrank · 02-12-2016 3:40pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I expected him to have been competitive, and for some of the round he was just that. His round included a duffed chip, and a few wayward long shots which cost. Oh and a semi shank lets not forget. So on balance it wasn't hectic.

Others (notably his fan club/homeboys on this forum) expected more. "He's back" etc.

Do you think he'd have been happy with 2nd last place?

i've seen the mini ronald mcdonald from up north duck hook many drives this year and miss one foot putts so it happens to every golfer, justin rose has been out a fraction of the time tiger was and finished below him.The bitterness on here is crazy from supposed golf fans

AnneFrank · 02-12-2016 3:50pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Your opinion and mine clearly are quite different on Woods. Vive la difference.

Please don't try and tell me what I do/don't understand however.

Opinions are one thing, but right and wrong are another.If you played golf to any decent standard, you would understand you are clearly wrong here, and Keano is clearly right

Armchair Andy · 02-12-2016 4:02pm

AnneFrank wrote:

Opinions are one thing, but right and wrong are another.If you played golf to any decent standard, you would understand you are clearly wrong here, and Keano is clearly right

Is playing golf to a decent standard a prerequisite to posting here now?

He's entitled to his opinion either way.

He might just be a **** hot golfer.

Golfgorfield · 02-12-2016 4:27pm

AnneFrank wrote: »

i've seen the mini ronald mcdonald from up north duck hook many drives this year and miss one foot putts so it happens to every golfer, justin rose has been out a fraction of the time tiger was and finished below him.The bitterness on here is crazy from supposed golf fans

Can you provide evidence or these Duck Hook drives and missed 1 foot putts?

Id be interested to see.

bren2001 · 02-12-2016 4:38pm

Armchair Andy wrote: »

Is playing golf to a decent standard a prerequisite to posting here now?

He's entitled to his opinion either way.

He might just be a **** hot golfer.

I don't think that's quite what AnneFrank means. All he is trying to say is doing it on the driving range is not equal to doing it on the course and so on. Standing on the first tee is much harder than on the range. The same leap can be made between practice rounds and competitive golf.

Tiger effectively said as much himself a few weeks back. It was something to the effect of: 'I've been hitting it well on the range. I can hit the low 60's in rounds with friends but my game isn't up to competitive golf yet' - they had the quote on Golf Weekly the other week and I ain't arsed listening back to find it.

Golfgorfield wrote: »

Can you provide evidence or these Duck Hook drives and missed 1 foot putts?

Id be interested to see.

Seriously? You need proof of Rory's awful putting from this year?

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