December 2014 Babies Club

highflyer30 · 10-05-2014 7:32pm

In hospital all week with a bleed. Ended up it was two but we lost one baby. Just grateful we still have one tbh. Nine weeks now. Roll on our next scan

Suain · 11-05-2014 5:00am

Ah high flyer,
Very sorry to hear that. I hope you are doing ok. Hugs and kisses xxx

Plek Trum · 12-05-2014 9:58am

Hi all - back in here again for quick visit

I'm due 10th December, but I am thinking of telling my Mum, Dad and sister next weekend (will just be 10 weeks at this stage) All appointments, scans etc have been fine so far, baby seems happy and I feel strong and great so I cant foresee anything going wrong by week 12. Its weighing on me heavily not telling them and I really just want it 'out there' so I can relax and enjoy my pregnancy openly! Plus, it will give them a 2 weeks heads up before everyone else which I think is nice.

Does anyone have any opinions on this? Is that '12 week' rule something to be obeyed without reason??

Also, have my dating scan in CUMH on Wednesday 28th May (not entirely necessary, baby was conceived via IVF so dates are very clear but its first step in the system). Does anyone know what happens on this day - quick, in and out visit? Im presuming that they do the 20week anomaly scan and that his will be booked on the way out. To me this is the important one for my partner to arrange time off week to attend rather than the 12 week dating scan?

First timer - experience appreciated!!

Ocean Blue · 12-05-2014 10:19am

Plek Trum wrote: »

Hi all - back in here again for quick visit I'm due 10th December, but I am thinking of telling my Mum, Dad and sister next weekend (will just be 10 weeks at this stage) All appointments, scans etc have been fine so far, baby seems happy and I feel strong and great so I cant foresee anything going wrong by week 12. Its weighing on me heavily not telling them and I really just want it 'out there' so I can relax and enjoy my pregnancy openly! Plus, it will give them a 2 weeks heads up before everyone else which I think is nice.

Does anyone have any opinions on this? Is that '12 week' rule something to be obeyed without reason??

Also, have my dating scan in CUMH on Wednesday 28th May (not entirely necessary, baby was conceived via IVF so dates are very clear but its first step in the system). Does anyone know what happens on this day - quick, in and out visit? Im presuming that they do the 20week anomaly scan and that his will be booked on the way out. To me this is the important one for my partner to arrange time off week to attend rather than the 12 week dating scan?

First timer - experience appreciated!!

Hopping over from the July thread! In my opinion the 12 week rule is more important for friends, acquaintances, work etc. We took a week or 10 days to let the news sink in ourselves then we told our parents and siblings. If something had gone wrong we would have confided in them so I see no reason not to share the joy as well. Plus the first trimester is the hardest for a lot of women so at least I could chat to my mam and sister about that, it was hard enough hiding that stuff in work!!

Plek Trum · 12-05-2014 10:28am

Thanks Ocean Blue - yes, Im going to go ahead and tell them. Its will be a surprise as I'm 36 and this is number one but I know they'll be delighted. There's only one grandchild in our family so a 2nd one will be a very welcome addition. Having a 'sleepover' at Nana's house (My parents) next weekend with mum, dad, sister and her boy. I guess I'll get it over and done with in one fell swoop! Nervous and excited - and still getting used to the idea myself (!)

Ocean Blue · 12-05-2014 10:43am

Plek Trum wrote: »

Thanks Ocean Blue - yes, Im going to go ahead and tell them. Its will be a surprise as I'm 36 and this is number one but I know they'll be delighted. There's only one grandchild in our family so a 2nd one will be a very welcome addition. Having a 'sleepover' at Nana's house (My parents) next weekend with mum, dad, sister and her boy. I guess I'll get it over and done with in one fell swoop! Nervous and excited - and still getting used to the idea myself (!)

I'm 31 and married 4 years. You'd swear I was a 16 Year old who got pregnant by mistake when it came to telling my folks!! I was so nervous, it took my hours to spit it out. I think it's partly that It made it 'real' once people knew, and also that I was kind of second - guessing whether I should say anything quite early in the pregnancy but I'm glad I did in the end

Plek Trum · 12-05-2014 12:39pm

Ocean Blue wrote: »

I'm 31 and married 4 years. You'd swear I was a 16 Year old who got pregnant by mistake when it came to telling my folks!! I was so nervous, it took my hours to spit it out. I think it's partly that It made it 'real' once people knew, and also that I was kind of second - guessing whether I should say anything quite early in the pregnancy but I'm glad I did in the end

That's totally it! Im with my partner 13 years, we own our house, comfortable (enough) lifestyle and I am SO freaking nervous about telling them. I feel like Im about 12 again and am in trouble..... Ridiculous!!

BroodyAllen · 13-05-2014 3:52pm

I actually don't know how I'm going to tell my family either, despite it being a very much wanted grandchild! Haha

wicklori · 14-05-2014 10:53am

First appointment yesterday and it looks like my dates are off- unsurprisingly!!! She thought yesterday more like 30th dec but back in 2 weeks to have another look! Told my brother and sister via t-shirt on DS yesterday. It's early but I would be telling them if anything happened anyway. Had told the parents already. I don't even think about it just told them DS was going to have a brother or sister!

BroodyAllen · 15-05-2014 1:31pm

Week 9 and my symptoms have really increased, more tiredness, sickness and backache... telling myself it's a good sign (silver lining!)

Plek Trum · 15-05-2014 2:28pm

BroodyAllen wrote: »

Week 9 and my symptoms have really increased, more tiredness, sickness and backache... telling myself it's a good sign (silver lining!)

Ah that's tough going - sorry to hear that. From what I've read (zero experience myself!) things should start easing off in the next 2 or 3 weeks, fingers crossed for you

On a somewhat similar note, my GP ahs been monitoring my bloods closely for the last few weeks. My white cell blood count was noticeable high (15), went up to 18 the following week. Was prescribed a week of antibiotics, had new bloods done last week. Got a call today, only came down to 14??

Being sent for ultrasound on my abdomen, gall bladder and liver to check everything. Definite curve ball in what has otherwise been a relatively easy 10 weeks so far.

Has anyone had experience of high white blood cell count while pregnant? Everything go alright? Slightly nervous and little apprehensive now,

laobhaise · 15-05-2014 9:23pm

hi everyone,
Congrats to you all- our date is dec 14/15. I'm was hoping for a home birth with Holles Street, but i'm just outside the catchment area (by less an 1km!). I'm currently looking for a community midwife - is anyone else going through this?
I'm also freaking out about telling people... I'm happy to tell friends, but I'm hesitant about telling family, as they are not close (either emotionally or by location). I see them this weekend for the first time since we have found out, and I'm really torn about what to say/how to act.
I've also had a strange 'encounter' with a friend, who had guessed by certain clues (not drinking.. feeling ill etc) and called to check how i was and insisted until we confirmed it. All very strange.

wicklori · 16-05-2014 10:39am

Best of luck with it laobhaise! Were you at the home birth conference a few weeks ago? Its not an option for me but I admire you ladies who do it- no need for this huge medicalisation of childbirth but it's a huge task trying to get it in Ireland!

witchity2 · 16-05-2014 10:50am

laobhaise wrote: »

hi everyone,
Congrats to you all- our date is dec 14/15. I'm was hoping for a home birth with Holles Street, but i'm just outside the catchment area (by less an 1km!). I'm currently looking for a community midwife - is anyone else going through this?
I'm also freaking out about telling people... I'm happy to tell friends, but I'm hesitant about telling family, as they are not close (either emotionally or by location). I see them this weekend for the first time since we have found out, and I'm really torn about what to say/how to act. .

Hi laobhaise
I'm having a home-birth too, but with the Holles Street midwives. That's such a shame you are outside their catchment area. Will they not consider it at all??

I had a home-birth on my last baby, and I didn't tell anyone in my family I think until i was in my third trimester. I was very confident in my decision, but didn't really feel like I had to keep justifying my decision, and answering questions about safety - which is nearly the first thing everyone says. I just told everyone I was going to Holles Street until I was ready.

Good luck with finding your midwife.
There is a homebirth association - you could try them.

The One Doctor · 16-05-2014 11:22am

We went for the 8 week scan today, we're happy that everything looks good and the heartbeat is fine. Feels much more real now. Next scan is at 22 weeks.

laobhaise · 16-05-2014 12:46pm

thanks Wicklori and witchity2! Yes we went to the homebirth association conference, I had literally started looking into it the day before, so it was good timing! I wish I had known beforehand how not straightforward it is (its my first)- I am 280 metres outside the d6w boundary line for Holles Street scheme.
I'm waiting to hear back from the third midwife I've contacted, and I think there are two more I could try. If not, I might get back in touch with Holles Street and plead my case.
I agree Witchity2 about just say I'm going to Holles street for now, and then we'll see. Its the first grandchild so I'm expecting alot of questions.
Good Luck to all you ladies

mrsWhippy · 16-05-2014 1:03pm

Am envious of all you ladies who are planning a homebirth, I think it would be such a lovely experience, and proven to be safer for uncomplicated cases I believe?

I'm dreading the hospital/semi-p experience this time around after the domino scheme but I guess I've no choice in the matter. Has anyone here had a VBAC? Not sure yet which I'd prefer, the section last time was pretty straightforward and I had a fast recovery, but having a 2 year old toddler this time might change things

8+1 today and the tiredness is debilitating! Scan next Thursday so just holding out til then.

wicklori · 16-05-2014 1:43pm

mrsWhippy wrote: »

Am envious of all you ladies who are planning a homebirth, I think it would be such a lovely experience, and proven to be safer for uncomplicated cases I believe?

I'm dreading the hospital/semi-p experience this time around after the domino scheme but I guess I've no choice in the matter. Has anyone here had a VBAC? Not sure yet which I'd prefer, the section last time was pretty straightforward and I had a fast recovery, but having a 2 year old toddler this time might change things

8+1 today and the tiredness is debilitating! Scan next Thursday so just holding out til then.

I'd be hoping for a VBAC mrsw. Like you my section the first time was a great experience but talked to my consultant the other day at first appointment and she agrees it would be good to work towards one this time.
Our scan put me back 2 weeks but not for definite so I don't know yet if I truly belong in this group but I might hang on if that's ok!!

BroodyAllen · 16-05-2014 2:57pm

I have always wondered about a home birth myself, I'll be looking forward to your birth story when the time comes

I'm too chicken to go for it myself, there's a family history of difficult births including my own!

Suain · 20-05-2014 10:41am

Hi ladies,
How are we all going? I'm still suffering NO symptoms ( not tired, sick, no sore boobs etc). Currently 10 weeks gone, have nuchal fold (Down syndrome scan) on June 4th. Planning on telling family and friends then as will be 12 weeks gone. Not at risk for downs, but doc offered so taking it as an opportunity to make sure everything is fine before sharing our news.
Looking forward to hearing your updates,
Suain

mrsWhippy · 20-05-2014 12:44pm

Hi Suain,
Had you had a scan already? Is this your first baby?
I'd be terrified about getting a nuchal fold scan as I'd be afraid I was just tempting fate - I like to bury my head in the sand regarding these types of risks!! But it will be very nice to get a negative result and know that all is ok with the little one.
I'm feeling ok. Tired on and off. But I don't have the same level of symptoms I had for the first pregnancy so am kinda worried. I have a scan on Thursday morning, I'll be 9 weeks then (hopefully) - all I can do is wait and see

ryanmrs2014 · 20-05-2014 12:51pm

Suain wrote: »

Hi ladies,
How are we all going? I'm still suffering NO symptoms ( not tired, sick, no sore boobs etc). Currently 10 weeks gone, have nuchal fold (Down syndrome scan) on June 4th. Planning on telling family and friends then as will be 12 weeks gone. Not at risk for downs, but doc offered so taking it as an opportunity to make sure everything is fine before sharing our news.
Looking forward to hearing your updates,
Suain[/

Hi Suain
I'm 8 weeks 5 days today. I'm having symptoms on and off mostly eg all of last week every morning i vomited from morning sickness rest of the day just feeling nauseous, this week however I haven't gotten sick but feelings of nauseous can be vary could be morning afternoon or evening i feel it. Boobs are sore but not that sore and i do get a little tired. When my symptoms come and then go i start to worry as had m/c in March but they seem to come back. Everyone is different though. A girl i worked with years ago had 4 kids and on every single pregnancy she had no symptoms whatsoever, she's so lucky. I have an early scan which they called a reassurance scan next fri 30th May will be 10 weeks then, it can't come quick enough to make sure everything ok. Also can you ask to get nuchal scan when there do you know

witchity2 · 20-05-2014 2:25pm

Suain wrote: »

Hi ladies,
How are we all going? I'm still suffering NO symptoms ( not tired, sick, no sore boobs etc). Currently 10 weeks gone, have nuchal fold (Down syndrome scan) on June 4th. Planning on telling family and friends then as will be 12 weeks gone. Not at risk for downs, but doc offered so taking it as an opportunity to make sure everything is fine before sharing our news.
Looking forward to hearing your updates,
Suain

I'm 8 weeks and no symptoms, well i am really tired in the first half of the day, other than that feeling great. It must be so hard suffering with morning sickness.

I'm going to go for an early (assurance scan) in a private clinic, but i think i might wait another couple of weeks when there will be more to see. NMH were very slow with my last pregnancy to do a scan.

I've told some close friends and family. The people that i would talk to if anything went wrong, but in no hurry to spread the word in work. I got to 20 weeks on the last two without having to say anything.

Suain · 20-05-2014 8:53pm

Hey ladies,
I've had 2 scans already (last pregnancy was a miscarriage).so this is my second pregnancy so far you could say. Also must point out I'm irish but living in Australia, so the health system is different. Nuchal fold scan was up to me really, just using it as an opportunity to see baby again and ensure everything is perfect. The lack of symptoms is driving me slightly crazy. So definitely want to check baby is ok before telling family and friends. I know I'll be glad of no symptoms in time to come but at the moment feel totally normal, except for missing out on the sav blanc.
Suain.
Mrs Ryan, nuchal fold has to be done between 11-13 weeks I think. Doc just booked me in for it.

dizzymisslizzy · 21-05-2014 4:50am

9 weeks here. Symptoms knocking me for six. Sickness, exhausted, sore boobs... I'm crying at the drop of a hat.

Really struggling and stress isn't helping. The father is being a prize idiot, we're not together, and my family aren't being very supportive.

Have my second scan this morning so fingers crossed all is ok. Sorry for the moan.

mrsWhippy · 21-05-2014 9:21am

That's very hard Dizzymisslizzy

Hopefully you should feel a reduction in symptoms as you approach weeks 11 and 12 - fingers crossed things look up for you a little.

Suain, sorry to hear about your loss. I can understand why you are so worried. Hopefully your next scan will be perfect too xx

wicklori · 21-05-2014 10:12am

Hi Everyone!! I'm nauseous most of the time :-( Particularly in the evenings right at dinner time.... Thought DS's nappy was going to push me over the edge yesterday but escaped.
Suain, I am sure you are very anxious you poor thing.... Not long now though and you will be further out of the woods.... No doubt though- like us all- you'll find something else to worry about! Just the nature of the beast I fear!
My DH is Aussie and I envy you their system! Everything is so much more child centred, mother centred and family friendly in my experience over there.
I've a second scan on tuesday to confirm dates as it looks like I'm not as far as I thought. I am definitely having the nuchal fold scan. I had it last time and obviously I am older again than last time and the odds have gone up remarkably so didn't have to think about it too much. Yes it's expensive but I'd rather be prepared should there be an issue. I also think if the odds didn't come back good that I would do the blood tests (new I think) for further confirmation/reassurance.

BroodyAllen · 22-05-2014 10:18am

Approaching 11 weeks and the nausea seems to be easing off, finally! Still have back pain and have a very busy few days ahead which isn't helping. I'll be putting my feet up come the weekend!

mrsWhippy · 22-05-2014 11:03am

Just had my 9 week scan this morning, everything doing what it should, where it should

Am delighted and relieved. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, but it's very reassuring!!

P.S Also delighted to see there was only one!!!

Plek Trum · 22-05-2014 11:44am

I'm 11 weeks today and, so far, everything is going fine! My white cell blood count is high and being monitored, Im being sent for an ultrasound on my gallbladder and liver - we did IVF and apparently all the hormones can cause your system to slow down considerably so hopefully its only a temp thing and will improve.

Have to say I feel fine - careful to eat every 2/3 hours or else I get a little quesey but other than that all good. The complete black tiredness of the first few weeks has gone and Im starting to feel more 'normal' again.

Had a person contact my place of work today who wanted to bring in their 8 year old who has chickenpox..... Politely said it wasn't an option until he was fully cleared . Yikes!

Dating scan next Wed in CUMH - even though we know its 11th Dec !

The One Doctor · 22-05-2014 12:43pm

Start of week 9 today for my girlfriend, it's all fine except the tiredness, which usually means she's in bed at 2130 and she hates that. No morning sickness or any other problems, I'm relieved to say. Unfortunately all i can do is help as much as possible and reassure her that it'll be fine. The only thing that irritates her is not being able to drink in the first trimester. Once that passes she'll have a few glasses of wine every week and she'll be fine.

Chattastrophe! · 22-05-2014 1:05pm

The One Doctor wrote: »

Start of week 9 today for my girlfriend, it's all fine except the tiredness, which usually means she's in bed at 2130 and she hates that. No morning sickness or any other problems, I'm relieved to say. Unfortunately all i can do is help as much as possible and reassure her that it'll be fine. The only thing that irritates her is not being able to drink in the first trimester. Once that passes she'll have a few glasses of wine every week and she'll be fine.

Has she done her research there?

I wasn't one of those militant anti-drink mothers, but even I'd draw the line well before a few glasses a week! The odd drink every now and then isn't going to do any harm, but a few glasses of wine a week sounds a bit much to me personally. Even past the first trimester.

mrsWhippy · 22-05-2014 1:46pm

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

The odd drink every now and then isn't going to do any harm, but a few glasses of wine a week sounds a bit much to me personally. Even past the first trimester.

I agree. I had a few glasses of wine over my last pregnancy, and will do again this time, but that would come under 'an occasional glass' rather than a few glasses a week. I don't think any research condones that.

wicklori · 22-05-2014 2:43pm

I'd be concerned about the quality of the research referred to as well. I work in the area of children and all the actual research is getting more and more cautious about any alcohol intake in pregnancy. Some of it talks even about alcohol prior to conception. (not that I followed that one myself or anything) but all the same- important to consider. Only get one chance to grow that baby.

Plek Trum · 22-05-2014 3:32pm

I don't think I'd bother with any to be honest - and even though its my first time having a baby, even I would think that a few glasses of wine a week wouldn't be a good idea

I haven't had a drop since Christmas and wont be having any until Christmas again. There's been big events, weddings and even buying and moving into our first home and I haven't been tempted. Maybe its the IVF thing - takes so much effort you don't want to do a single thing that might affect the outcome and baby? And I was a very VERY sociable drinker - (nothing beats an ice cold beer, or a fresh cold glass of white wine mmmmm.....) would often pop to pub after work for one or 2, Friday nights in were dvd & btl(s) wine, our house is usually the first to have the party and the bbq. Sober summer ahead!!

wicklori · 22-05-2014 3:36pm

See Plek Trum I think you are on to something there. I am aware of quite a few people involved in fertility treatment, and whilst there's the obvious stress attached to it, I have found conversations to be really humbling and to have really served as an important reminder to me of how fortunate I am to be pregnant and have one already. 10 months is such a short amount of time out of our whole lives.

Chattastrophe! · 22-05-2014 3:39pm

We didn't do IVF, in fact it was an unplanned pregnancy for us, and even in that situation, I wasn't really tempted by alcohol. I had one West Coast Cooler when I was about seven months pregnant, and that was it.

You just have that one opportunity to do things right, you know? You have a small little person growing inside of you.

Why would you risk screwing it all up?

Plek Trum · 22-05-2014 3:47pm

Totally - I quit it early before we started the IVF, (along with my cappachino's ) as we knew the best shape for me to be in when we started was the 'cleanest' and healthiest system wise. I haven't missed it to be honest, the odd time alright I could murder a cold beer but that's probably more to do with thirst than any real longing. I think I'll even be a little nervous of it come Christmas - I haven't had a complete sober year since I was about 17 haha! I imagine it wont take me much at all to get tiddly

Definite bonus is putting the extra euro's I would have spent on alcohol into a little savings box - hoping when we take a can opener to it that a lot of the new shopping for baby will be covered. Fingers crossed anyway...

I have no problem being around it though. Had people around for house warming and the drink flew all night. Have a few trips to Dublin soonto catch up with friends, nights out etc and it wont bother me. My big challenge will be Kodaline / Kings of Leon in Marlay Park in July. 2 great bands, outdoor vibe, wellies ... and a water (!) Ah sure, all worth it!

orchidsrpretty · 22-05-2014 3:55pm

I think the NHS guidelines say don't have any more than 2-3 units a week. Personally I wouldn't be risking it either. There is so much that can go wrong without adding to potential issues.

I'd be the same as you Plektrum, I really enjoy drinking I did drink leading up to the Egg transfer, but it was really only 1 or 2 small glasses of wine a week. I am already missing having a nice cold beer when the sun is shining. I am drinking Cobra N/A and I find it quite nice, although my boyfriend thinks it tastes awful. I haven't bothered with the N/A wine as I tried them before and they tasted horrible, but that was when I could swap it for some yummy alcoholic wine. I wonder will my tastes of changed:p

mrsWhippy · 22-05-2014 3:59pm

Completely agree with the sentiment above. On that note, I'm really dreading the conversations around having a baby due on Christmas day! If that is the worst *affliction* my gorgeous baby has, then we are so so incredibly lucky!!!!!

I am not a big 'going out drinker' anyway never missed the social side of drinking really, but I really *really* missed the Friday night pizza and wine after a long week at work!! The very occasional weekend, I'd have half a glass of red wine towards the end of my last pregnancy, but I'd leave it at that, and savour every mouthful

What I do appreciate though (and really loved last time too) is the complete lack of Saturday morning hangovers!

I'm a big coffee drinker though, but now I'll only have one small cup in the morning (half caffeinated, half decaf) - the recommendation is less than 200mg of caffeine a day, so one espresso is well under that (64mg). I then only make sure to drink decaf tea for the rest of the day. Works well for us - that one shot is a sanity-saver with my 20 month old toddler

The One Doctor · 22-05-2014 4:09pm

We've read the research and a Cochrane meta review of the studies show that the risk is minimal after trimester 1. There's far more risk of miscarriage from chromosomal aberrations then there is from drinking 2 glasses of wine per week.

The hysteria around avoiding alcohol during trimester 2 &3 is bizarre. There's far more chance of coming into contact with rat droppings thus forcing a mutation. According to the stats, to have a 30% chance of a child being born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome the mother would need to drink just over half a bottle of 40% spirits per night.

I know pregnant women love to go on about the horrors of alcohol during pregnancy, but frankly I've never seen or read of a case where a few glasses of wine a week caused any problems. So it's up to the individual and I'll defend my girlfriend's right to drink if she wants.

Chattastrophe! · 22-05-2014 4:13pm

You're right that there is some hysteria surrounding the issue.

In my own opinion, after a lot of research, I'd agree with you that a couple of drinks a week seems OK, in the later months. I wouldn't do it myself, but if it's a decision you're comfortable with as a couple, fair enough.

To me, a few glasses of wine a week (as you said originally) seems like an awful lot for any pregnant lady to drink.

Plek Trum · 22-05-2014 4:21pm

I guess it comes down perhaps to personal preference at the end of the day. For me, I'd rather stick to my instinct and keep myself in best shape possible and my system as 'clean' as I can for baby. If I was in training for a marathon or on a healthy living buzz I would drop the alcohol. Seems common sense to leave it behind while pregnant too?

BTW The One Doctor - I haven't ever met a single pregnant woman who loves "to go on about the horrors of alcohol during pregnancy". Don't know who you've been hanging out with but that certainly seems like a grossly over sweeping statement (!)

wicklori · 22-05-2014 4:21pm

Look if any drug is that important to a pregnant woman then giving it up may be more harmful that persisting.

mrsWhippy · 22-05-2014 4:22pm

The One Doctor wrote: »

I know pregnant women love to go on about the horrors of alcohol during pregnancy, but frankly I've never seen or read of a case where a few glasses of wine a week caused any problems.

That's a horrible thing to say tbh. All any pregnant woman here is trying to do is protect their baby, and provide the safest environment for him or her to develop in.

I think what it comes down to for me is 'why risk it'? BTW, not drinking comes at the very bottom of a long long list of sacrifices you and your wife will be making for your child from here on in!

The One Doctor · 22-05-2014 4:26pm

mrsWhippy wrote: »

That's a horrible thing to say tbh. All any pregnant woman here is trying to do is protect their baby, and provide the safest environment for him or her to develop in.

I think what it comes down to for me is 'why risk it'? BTW, not drinking comes at the very bottom of a long long list of sacrifices you and your wife will be making for your child from here on in!

I do actually know quite a a lot of pregnant women who go on about it without having done the slightest amount of research about drinking during pregnancy. It's these women whom I'm referring to, not anyone on this thread. Apologies for any offence taken.

Plek Trum · 22-05-2014 4:30pm

From my reading(s), the research actually says that it is 'unknown' what amount of alcohol is safe for a pregnant woman to drink.

A lot of it comes down to the woman's ability to process the alcohol and is dependent on individual enzymes.

Interpret as you will. For me personally, I feel its my responsibility to err on the side of caution. Each to their own I guess!

wicklori · 22-05-2014 4:36pm

Plek Trum wrote: »

From my reading(s), the research actually says that it is 'unknown' what amount of alcohol is safe for a pregnant woman to drink.

A lot of it comes down to the woman's ability to process the alcohol and is dependent on individual enzymes.

Interpret as you will. For me personally, I feel its my responsibility to err on the side of caution. Each to their own I guess!

And he more current the research the more cautious it is. Especially as you move beyond Wikipedia to academic discussion. As I say though- if a drug is that important the stress of having to abstain may be more risky.

The One Doctor · 22-05-2014 4:37pm

Plek Trum wrote: »

From my reading(s), the research actually says that it is 'unknown' what amount of alcohol is safe for a pregnant woman to drink.

A lot of it comes down to the woman's ability to process the alcohol and is dependent on individual enzymes.

Interpret as you will. For me personally, I feel its my responsibility to err on the side of caution. Each to their own I guess!

Indeed, each to their own, and debate on the matter is healthy.

Plek Trum · 22-05-2014 4:50pm

Debates are indeed healthy and very much welcomed. I would keep in mind though that a few evenings / days / weeks of reading research, whether in books or on-line, while being informative, doesn't really qualify one to over rule the general advice of professional bodies.. globally... that it is best to just avoid alcohol altogether while pregnant. Just a small point.

We shouldn't let this thread turn into a debate on alcohol use while pregnant as it may get a little heated. Everyone has the absolute right to make their own decisions regarding their pregnancy and how they wish to proceed during it. Best of luck to you and your girlfriend The One Doctor, exciting times for everyone in here !

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