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Newtown90 · 26-07-2015 8:48pm

Been looking at Waxstock photos from the Ricoh Arena on Facebook and Instagram today! I think we need one in Ireland!!!!

myshirt · 26-07-2015 11:12pm

We need those swirl police here, that's what we need.

Curran · 27-07-2015 3:22am

Glenviewjf wrote: »

Been looking at Waxstock photos from the Ricoh Arena on Facebook and Instagram today! I think we need one in Ireland!!!!

You'd only have to rent a local GAA club for a similar event here; the detailing following, isnt a patch on the UK.

MetzgerMeister · 27-07-2015 9:08am

Curran wrote: »

You'd only have to rent a local GAA club for a similar event here; the detailing following, isnt a patch on the UK.

More like a Legion of Mary hall :pac:

Newtown90 · 27-07-2015 9:10am

Think I'll head to Waxstock next year so! :P

Must see if I can buy one of those swirl police!

edburg · 27-07-2015 9:54am

Curran wrote: »

You'd only have to rent a local GAA club for a similar event here; the detailing following, isnt a patch on the UK.

Probably get away just parking up at a spar coffee shop :P

Gordy6040 · 28-07-2015 4:44pm

Hi Guys
Looking at the CG Hyper Coat here
Some of my trim is pretty faded and also has been contaminated with wax. Would this remove the wax and bring it back to shiny perfection? Or, would it just cover the wax and have to be applied again 3 weeks latter like most of those back to black type products?

Cheers
G

Pops_20 · 28-07-2015 5:27pm

Anyone know how to remove black stains from alloy wheels? I think it's brake dust that has built up over the years.

I've already tried tar remover, all purpose cleaner, claying, Bilt Hamber Korrosol, WD40 and Car Plan's Wonder Wheel which is the best wheel cleaner on the market apparently.

None of these have worked so far. After some vigorous rubbing there is some transfer to the cloth but still not effective.

edburg · 28-07-2015 5:40pm

Gordy6040 wrote: »

Hi Guys
Looking at the CG Hyper Coat here
Some of my trim is pretty faded and also has been contaminated with wax. Would this remove the wax and bring it back to shiny perfection? Or, would it just cover the wax and have to be applied again 3 weeks latter like most of those back to black type products?

Cheers
G

You need to remove wax and stains otherwise your just covering it over.

Use a good all purpose cleaner (APC) and or a iso alcohol type cleaner. Check out a detailing site like detailingshed.com or danddcleaning or cleanyourcar.Co.UK.

Then you can slap the dressing of choice on, they will need topping up every so often (3-4 months).

edburg · 28-07-2015 5:41pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

Anyone know how to remove black stains from alloy wheels? I think it's brake dust that has built up over the years.

I've already tried tar remover, all purpose cleaner, claying, Bilt Hamber Korrosol, WD40 and Car Plan's Wonder Wheel which is the best wheel cleaner on the market apparently.

None of these have worked so far. After some vigorous rubbing there is some transfer to the cloth but still not effective.

You need a fall out remover and some elbow grease. Iron cleanse/iron x etc etc

I would have thought Korrosol would work, have you been leaving it on some time. Rub it in with a brush to agitate to

It could be burnt on now and only option is for a wheel refurb.

Pops_20 · 28-07-2015 6:19pm

edburg wrote: »

You need a fall out remover and some elbow grease. Iron cleanse/iron x etc etc

I would have thought Korrosol would work, have you been leaving it on some time. Rub it in with a brush to agitate to

It could be burnt on now and only option is for a wheel refurb.

I was thinking that Korrosol would work for definite but no matter how much I agitate it, it won't come off.

If you rub it with a cloth some does come off but it's not making any difference visually and at this rate it would take weeks of continuous rubbing :rolleyes:

I was hoping there was a secret to getting rid of this stuff. Looks like a refurb is the only option

punisher5112 · 28-07-2015 6:33pm

Use the product and rub in with a green pad.

Pops_20 · 28-07-2015 6:56pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Use the product and rub in with a green pad.

I tried the green pad just now but no luck. It helps in removing the lighter stains but for the heavier staining it just runs a bit in the product but its too heavily baked on.

punisher5112 · 28-07-2015 7:12pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

I tried the green pad just now but no luck. It helps in removing the lighter stains but for the heavier staining it just runs a bit in the product but its too heavily baked on.

Have you tried tar remover ?

Lightly rub wire wool or brilo pad but I mean gentle

Curran · 28-07-2015 7:30pm

If repeated attempts with Korrosol hasnt worked, them Im afraid they are beyond saving with a cleaning product; they will need a refurb.
Not sure who informed you that Car Plan's Wonder Wheel is the best on the market, or that WD40 would work, but you were mis-informed.

You have tried just about all that can be tried; going at them with a brillo pad or wire wool, while it may work, will inflict other damage; you will be left with lots of light scratching - but perhaps this is a better appearance than the black spots.

quadrifoglio verde · 28-07-2015 7:32pm

Curran wrote: »

You'd only have to rent a local GAA club for a similar event here; the detailing following, isnt a patch on the UK.

Aye, but they've 64 million people over there

Pops_20 · 28-07-2015 7:49pm

Curran wrote: »

Not sure who informed you that Car Plan's Wonder Wheel is the best on the market, or that WD40 would work, but you were mis-informed.

I believed what it said on the pack - Auto Express winner 13 years in a row. I was getting desperate!

MetzgerMeister · 28-07-2015 10:38pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

I believed what it said on the pack - Auto Express winner 13 years in a row. I was getting desperate!

The best wheel cleaner on the market is actually Bilt Hamber's AutoWheel

Source: I use it and I love it......and that's all that matters

Mc Love · 28-07-2015 11:04pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

The best wheel cleaner on the market is actually Bilt Hamber's AutoWheel

Source: I use it and I love it......and that's all that matters

Yep that's what I use and find it the best

Curran · 28-07-2015 11:24pm

Pops_20 wrote: »

I believed what it said on the pack - Auto Express winner 13 years in a row. I was getting desperate!

For it to be voted best by Auto Express, means its the best that they've tested. Also, I wonder what their criteria is for best cleaner - something that simply gets the wheel clean...or something that is capable of doing it while being totally safe on all finishes, etc.

Its a bit like some of the awards on Detailing World - its based on the peoples vote, but if there are 6 products up for Best Wheel Cleaner, people vote based on using perhaps 2 of the 6....for it to be fair, they should have used every one. The 2 of 6 they have tried may have been from the companies with the biggest marketing budget, or the cheapest product etc....so then, naturally, they'll get more votes.

I would never tell someone that X product is the best on the market, but rather, from what Ive tried, X is by far the best!

Curran · 28-07-2015 11:26pm

Gordy6040 wrote: »

Hi Guys
Looking at the CG Hyper Coat here
Some of my trim is pretty faded and also has been contaminated with wax. Would this remove the wax and bring it back to shiny perfection? Or, would it just cover the wax and have to be applied again 3 weeks latter like most of those back to black type products?

Cheers
G

Firstly you will need to remove the wax marks - APC might do it, but IPA or a wipedown product such as CarPro Eraser might be needed.
The CG's G6 Hyper Coat will only cover the wax, not remove it. It will only last a few weeks. If you are looking for a permanent treatment, CarPro DLUX is durable for about a year with good preparation.

MetzgerMeister · 28-07-2015 11:49pm

Mc Love wrote: »

Yep that's what I use and find it the best

Do you get yours from Detailing Shed also? I think they're the only suppliers of it in Ireland.

Mc Love · 29-07-2015 10:15am

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Do you get yours from Detailing Shed also? I think they're the only suppliers of it in Ireland.

Yes, whenever I can buy all my detailing supplies from Detailing Shed as they are a great resource for all things of that nature and even offer advice on how to use the products

fred funk }{ · 29-07-2015 11:34pm

Have to agree, Detailing Shed are top notch. Customer service us second to none too.

Foxhole Norman · 29-07-2015 11:56pm

I also concur, received a few things this morning after only ordering yesterday, that Dry Me Crazy towel is amazing, Stripper Scent isn't bad either :pac:

UnknownSpecies · 31-07-2015 11:52am

Well lads, won't start a new thread for this (or maybe I should). I bought an orbital polisher and some pads to tackle my horribly worn paint. Anyone have any advice or tips for me? Product recommendations would be great too, at the moment I have Meguiars Ultimate Compound and some Autoglym polish but I realise these might not be the best for the job.

MetzgerMeister · 31-07-2015 11:57am

The Autoglym is NOT a polish for correction, only for improving gloss short-term.

For BMW paint, you'd be best off with Menzerna FG400/FG500 polishes. They are German-made for German paint. I used them on mine originally and they did an excellent job. For single stage polishing after the main correction I switched to Chemical Guys V36 and V38.

Also get a few orange cutting pads and black finishing pads from Detailing Shed.

edburg · 31-07-2015 12:00pm

That and take your time, start slow with least abrasive polish.

MetzgerMeister · 31-07-2015 12:07pm

He's going to be using a D/A on German paint....no need for alarm :P

UnknownSpecies · 31-07-2015 12:13pm

It's actually not a D/A, I meant to say rotary, not orbital. Anything specific to be aware of with that? RPM etc?

Cheers for the product advice MM, I'll add it to my list, along with Auto Wheels from DS. I must try get some pictures of the paint, it really is in terrible nick so I'm thinking whatever I do will be an improvement. Question on the pads you advised. Are the colours universal for each level of abrasiveness? So I'm free to choose any of the orange and black pads on DS website? The polisher I bought came with red, blue and white pads but I've no idea how abrasive each one is so I'm hesitant to use them.

Curran · 31-07-2015 12:14pm

Id certainly look at changing your polishes - Wolf's Chemicals, Chemical Guys, Menzerna, Scholl Concepts are names what would be leaders in polishes. CarPro Fixer polish is one worth looking at also. It covers all stages of polishing, except the very last finishing/jeweling step...all you have to do is change the pad to change the amount of cutting ability.

BMW paint, as said, is very hard, and correction will be slow with a Dual Action polisher. If you arent getting where you want to with it, you can go for Microfiber pads, as these generate a bit more heat and correction.

Ahh, so rotary....you will need to be more careful; starting from a pad and polish combo that has low cutting ability, test an area, and move up the cutting scale until you find a combo that is giving good results. Keep the machine moving as they generate a lot of heat. Slow and steady, no need to move it back and forth too fast as it will leave holograms.... YouTube some video on the techniques...also, remember, its a daily drive; dont go chasing every mark on the car, because it will lead you to risking the clear coat if you try getting perfection!

Curran · 31-07-2015 12:18pm

dorgasm wrote: »

The polisher I bought came with red, blue and white pads but I've no idea how abrasive each one is so I'm hesitant to use them.

No, colours do no represent the same cutting ability from different manufacturers. If you dont know what make they are, they only way to tell what cut they have is to compare the feel of them; the harder the foam, the more cut it will have.

MetzgerMeister · 31-07-2015 12:26pm

If it's a rotary polisher, you do need to be careful. If this is your first time polishing, I would advise swapping it for a D/A.

I don't think the colours are universal. I use Chemical Guys pads and in that range, the orange is the cutting pad and the black is the finishing/jewelling pad. You don't really need any of the other pads.

I have a yellow cutting pad which is above the orange. Haven't had a chance to use it yet though.

UnknownSpecies · 31-07-2015 12:28pm

Great stuff lads, all new info for me

I might actually start a thread later so I don't hog the chat thread. But for now, the pads I'll order in that case are this for heavy cutting and this for finishing. I'll look into more product reviews on what ye've suggested before making a final decision. I have a few big long scratches to sort beforehand anyway, might be a question for the thread when I start it!

UnknownSpecies · 31-07-2015 12:32pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

If it's a rotary polisher, you do need to be careful. If this is your first time polishing, I would advise swapping it for a D/A.

I don't think the colours are universal. I use Chemical Guys pads and in that range, the orange is the cutting pad and the black is the finishing/jewelling pad. You don't really need any of the other pads.

I have a yellow cutting pad which is above the orange. Haven't had a chance to use it yet though.

I really don't think the DA is worth the investment for my car. It's nothing special and the paint is so badly scratched and damaged that only a professional paint correction would bring it fully back to life. I'm just trying to do the best with what I have and maybe learn a thing or two about paint correction and polishing

I'm going to order the orange and black chemical guys pads that I linked to in my previous post, should do the job for me.

Curran · 31-07-2015 12:33pm

If you are using it for the first time; and you are only buying 2 pads, Id go for something mid range on the cutting scale - maybe white and black....remove some of the risk, while you are learning and getting the feel for it. Those two pads will still do a very impressive job.
Its better to repeat and area two or three times with a lower cutting pad, than risk striking through with one pass on a heavy cutting pad. Even one pass on a finishing polish, and finishing pad, will do wonders on a car that is as poor as you say....it will restore a serious about of depth and shine, and will look great from a few feet away....though, swirls will remain, the transformation will be impressive!

UnknownSpecies · 31-07-2015 2:22pm

Curran wrote: »

If you are using it for the first time; and you are only buying 2 pads, Id go for something mid range on the cutting scale - maybe white and black....remove some of the risk, while you are learning and getting the feel for it. Those two pads will still do a very impressive job.
Its better to repeat and area two or three times with a lower cutting pad, than risk striking through with one pass on a heavy cutting pad. Even one pass on a finishing polish, and finishing pad, will do wonders on a car that is as poor as you say....it will restore a serious about of depth and shine, and will look great from a few feet away....though, swirls will remain, the transformation will be impressive!

Thanks again, I'll go for the white and black hex pads so. I'm still expecting plenty of swirls afterwards but a shine from a few feet away is perfect for me. I've been wondering about the smaller hard to reach spots and all that on my car. Places like around the front grilles and the boot spoiler. What's the best technique to use for making sure I don't cut the paint down too much? My instinct would be to use the edge of the polishing pad but I've read that that's a big no no?

Curran · 31-07-2015 3:10pm

You dont want to use the pads in any way other than totally flat, if possible, and its not always possible. On large panels, certainly keep it totally flat. Lean on the side of the pad will result in possible holograms, or trails of where you went back and forth with the polisher.

For tighter areas, you can get a smaller backing plate and smaller pads. So when doing wing mirrors, bumpers, the corners of panels, etc, you can use it then. There are some even harder to reach areas, for example, the reg plate on the boot of some cars, that area is a lower height, and you need an extension bar, to make a wider gap between the backing plate and the actual machine, but its rarely needed. For really hard to get to areas such as these, its best to just accept you cant get in there, and give it a bit of a hand polish...if its that hard to reach, its not going to be overly noticeable that you didnt machine polish it!

Fiesta · 01-08-2015 12:33pm

A quick question, what cloths do you use for the glass?

I've used blue tissue roll, lots of microfibres, and they all leave some amount of lint.

What can I use to avoid lint?

punisher5112 · 01-08-2015 12:38pm

Fiesta wrote: »

A quick question, what cloths do you use for the glass?

I've used blue tissue roll, lots of microfibres, and they all leave some amount of lint.

What can I use to avoid lint?

Depends on products your using.

I clean off using windolean then use auto glym or similar and apply with applicator and then use micro fibre.

fred funk }{ · 02-08-2015 12:32pm

After finding myself in this forum a while ago when I had literally no interest in detailing, I decided to give the car a bit more TLC so I made an order from Detailing Shed. I got a Mitt, Shampoo, Clay bar (never heard of one until I read about them in here), tyre dressing, Wax and one or two other bits a pieces.

Yesterday was the first day I used my new gear on the car. Now I normally kept the car fairly clean so didn't notice much of a difference after the first wash but the difference the clay bar made was unreal, the paint was so smooth and the amount of dirt that came off the car was shocking as I thought the car was spotless.

After Claying the car I then waxed it with Collinite 845, gave the tyres a dressing and cleaned the glass. The car now is stunning looking. The paint is like a mirror and I almost don't want to drive it anywhere as It might get dirty :eek:

The one down side to it was that I can now see the bleamishes and chips in the paint that I couldn't really see before and their bugging me!

Anyway, thanks for the info posted in here.

Curran · 02-08-2015 1:05pm

No pics??

vectra · 02-08-2015 2:06pm

fred funk }{ wrote: »

The one down side to it was that I can now see the bleamishes and chips in the paint that I couldn't really see before and their bugging me!

Anyway, thanks for the info posted in here.

No before and after pics?

Oh
Welcome the the club

micks_address · 02-08-2015 3:36pm

vectra wrote: »

No before and after pics?

Oh
Welcome the the club

Question... How do you get hay out of carpet interior?

Hoover wouldn't lift it. Trying to clean the interior of parents octavia

Cheers
Mick

PokeHerKing · 02-08-2015 4:02pm

Hi Folks,

I've just bought an 01 BMW, car is mint for its age but there is the odd scratch or two and a small dent on the boot, also a very small bit of rust on the front wheel arch. Also the black outline of the sunroof is peeled off in places.

I basically want to bring it somewhere to get all these small things fixed but I've no idea who would do this and who's recommended as this is my dream car, so want to make sure it's in good hands!

Any ideas or recommendations please?

Thanks

edburg · 02-08-2015 4:50pm

micks_address wrote: »

Question... How do you get hay out of carpet interior?

Hoover wouldn't lift it. Trying to clean the interior of parents octavia

Cheers
Mick

Stiff hand brush may get it up in to pan and brush pan.

Noccy_Mondy · 02-08-2015 4:55pm

Anywhere still selling nilfisk c120.3's?

edburg · 02-08-2015 4:56pm

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Hi Folks,

I've just bought an 01 BMW, car is mint for its age but there is the odd scratch or two and a small dent on the boot, also a very small bit of rust on the front wheel arch. Also the black outline of the sunroof is peeled off in places.

I basically want to bring it somewhere to get all these small things fixed but I've no idea who would do this and who's recommended as this is my dream car, so want to make sure it's in good hands!

Any ideas or recommendations please?

Thanks

Can you get pics up??

Hard to say blind, as scratches could a detailing job or paint.

Dents could be a mobile paintless dent remover or bodyshop for paint.

Can't answer the sunroof bit as not sure you talking about a seal/paint/vinyl

Rust is a bodyshop job unless you or a mate is a handy diy man. Whether it's a rub down and paint or new panel depends on how rust is.

Location will help with recommendations, but I would say speak to bodyshops before making your decision and not because Johnnys uncle bobs best friends brother in law cousin 4 times removed said so.

vectra · 02-08-2015 5:18pm

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Anywhere still selling nilfisk c120.3's?

the 130 is on ibood today

http://www.ibood.com/ie/en/

Noccy_Mondy · 02-08-2015 5:30pm

vectra wrote:

the 130 is on ibood today

That's a good price. Will the c120 attachments fit, esp the hose (after buying a new 60 euro hose).

I take it the c120 is out of production?

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